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2012 So how's it working out for you?
Oh, and I also didn't fully test whether it mattered that the book was already on the 'read' or 'to-read' exclusive shelves. As it happens, both of these today were re-reads of books that I had marked as 'read' because I had read them many years ago. None of the others that I've completed for the challenge have been, though - they've all been 'to-read.' I don't think the exclusive shelves affect the response of the updates of the challenge. I do think, based on evidence so far, it's related solely to whether or not the book is, or is not, pre-loaded on a designated non-exclusive challenge shelf.
Though I'll say agsin that I don't add the book to the challenge shelf until I'm marking it read--that is, whether I mark it as currently-reading, to-read, or don't have it shelved at all, I don't mark it [challenge-shelf-name] until I am also marking it read, fiction-literature, etc.
Cheryl, if you click on the score beside the bar where it tells you your progress (the bit where it says "4 out of 20 read" or "0 out of 10" or whatever) it will force the update. Also "view books" at the bottom of the box.
Tx Darkpool - I feel stupid now. But I'm glad I asked! :)
Actually I have a question if anyone happens to know the answer. When I read books from my TBR shelf - will they move from that shelf to the Read shelf after I read it, and if so, how do I make this happen - because I don't think it is.
To further confuse things, I just moved a book from to-read to read and my challenge tag, and it showed up here without any extra clicking from me.
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Hi Linda, A book will not automatically move from your to-read to your read once you have marked the date-read, (Good idea though!)
You must manually change the status by marking the radial button, using the drop-down edit shelves menu. e.g. Mark from to-read to read. in order to "move" the book.
In addition, the square next to the challenged-named shelf needs to be checked in order for the book to count toward your challenge goal.
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It was marked with a date read before it arrived on the challenge tag/shelf. Correct?
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Cheryl in CC NV wrote: "Tx Darkpool - I feel stupid now. But I'm glad I asked! :)"
Huh! I never knew the "4 out of 20 read" or "0 out of 10" wording was a link. I'm dumb-founded.
Almeta wrote: "Huh! I never knew the "4 out of 20 read" or "0 out of 10" wording was a link. I'm dumb-founded. "
Me too. I just discovered that the the date near the "view your books" forces the update too.
Me too. I just discovered that the the date near the "view your books" forces the update too.
It was marked with a date read before it arrived on the challenge tag/shelf. Correct?
No, the opposite, and I always do it in the same order: Open (empty) review, change shelf tags, write review, add date read, close.
No, the opposite, and I always do it in the same order: Open (empty) review, change shelf tags, write review, add date read, close.
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No, the opposite, and I always do it in the same order: Open (empty) review, change shelf tags, write review,..."
Uh Oh, You just blew our theory!
Almeta wrote: "Linda wrote: "Actually I have a question if anyone happens to know the answer. When I read books from my TBR shelf - will they move from that shelf to the Read shelf after I read it, and if so, ho..."Thank you Almeta, I wonder why it doesn't - at this rate - there is no way to for our TBR shelf to shrink, it will just continue to get bigger and bigger - I think they should work on that.
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Yeah, The only way to shrink our TBR shelf is to manually "move" books off of it ourselves.
Just another opinion - I'd hate for reshelving to happen automatically. I want to manually control the shelf(s) of every book I enter, so as to confirm correctness. I want to control whether a book I've shelved as read also gets a date read, or vice-versa.Now the challenge shelf is a little different. If the book has been 'pre-loaded' onto the challenge shelf, and I read it, shelve it as 'read', and give it a date read (said date being within the parameters of the challenge), I think the *challenge ticker* should update automatically.
Just nobody mess with my shelves!
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So I guess I don't know how to do that. How do I manually move it - I thought I was doing that, but I'm not - I still have books on my TBR shelf that I have read, so now they are sitting on both shelves.
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I sorta suspected that was what you were getting at, but I was not sure.
Be glad to help you with this.
What are the names of the shelves on which you have duplicates?
Would you be willing to send me your email address? We can do this privately...or we can create another thread, if you would like.
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Well, you don't have to actually move them. You just have to 'edit shelves.' I'm looking at Last Night at the Lobster - is that one that is an example of the difficulty? I can't see which exclusive shelf it's on - but it must be on either read, currently-reading, to-read, or interested-in. You should be able to just go to 'edit shelves' (from your review on the book's page) and click the button for 'read' and whatever other round button (round means exclusive) is clicked will unclick.
You don't actually have a TBR shelf, so I'm thinking you're talking about to-read shelf?
Since your challenge shelves are non-exclusive (with square buttons when you do 'add to my books' or 'edit shelves') your read books can stay on them. In fact, you *want* those books to stay there, or else they won't count for your challenges.
Poke around and explore. It'll make more sense when you use it more. :)
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☺ Yeah, it was practically simultaneous. No problem though.
It looks as though you poked around before you responded. I waited to take a look afterwards. Your response was good.
Linda, I think there may just be a problem with the terminology we have been using. You appear to be shelving books on both exclusive and non-exclusive shelves, with no problem.
When people use the term TBR in relation to shelves/tags, they are meaning the "to-read" shelf.
I am still curious about where duplicates displease you. Also wonder how you mark your challenge shelves. Do you have problems with the count not updating, as Cheryl, Osho and I are experiencing?
"When people use the term TBR in relation to shelves/tags, they are meaning the "to-read" shelf."Often, maybe usually. However - I have a 'to-read' exclusive and a '... tbr ...' non-exclusive. So people who are not sure how to use shelves shouldn't probably be looking at mine as a good example - too confusing.
Hmm. When I'm on the group home page and I click on the "more challenges" (which is at the bottom of the 2 that are automatically displayed) I get an error message. Anyone else getting that? Same thing happened when I clicked on "Challenges" at the top of that block. Has happened twice in the last 12 hours. Thank goodness you put those challenge catalogue posts together, Almeta, as that seems the only way I can get to the rest of the challenges at the moment.
Darkpool, I tested, and those links fail for me, too.
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I think in general GoodReads is freaking out!! Other links are also failing. Dropdown menus aren't working either. I haven't seen anything official as a response from GR, but flaky things are being reported in several areas.
Sigh. Why does it always go haywire at the weekends?
Darkpool wrote: "Sigh. Why does it always go haywire at the weekends?"
It's a sort of corollary of the Murphy's law, "any online service goes crazy in the worst moment" :(
It's a sort of corollary of the Murphy's law, "any online service goes crazy in the worst moment" :(
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It's a sort of corollary of the Murphy's law, "any online service goes crazy in the worst moment" :("
I believe that is true! LOL
Almeta wrote: "Cheryl in CC NV wrote: "sorry - I guess I was typing on top of you"☺ Yeah, it was practically simultaneous. No problem though.
It looks as though you poked around before you responded. I w..."
Almeta & Cheryl,
I consider my "To Read" shelf as my TBR shelf. I think I know what the problem is by both of your explanations, tell me if this is correct. When I choose a book from my TBR (To Read) shelf, should I mark it there as currently reading, will that then move it from that shelf to the currently reading shelf and then to the read shelf after I finish??? I hope this makes sense...
I'm not sure about the exclusive shelves or non-exclusive shelves. I do want the books that I have shelved "To Read" to move to my Read shelf after I have read them, I don't want them to appear on both of those shelves, please see my note above, will this take care of that???I really appreciate everyone's help!!
The site seems to be going down at weird times as well - has anyone noticed, I wondered if it had something to do with the whole Amazon thing and Goodreads using some other source for our book covers.
Linda wrote: "When I choose a book from my TBR (To Read) shelf, should I mark it there as currently reading, will that then move it from that shelf to the currently reading shelf... "
I do so and the book is moved from a shelf to the currently reading shelf. When I finished, I mark it as "read" and then assign it to the shelves it belongs (poetry, theatre, literature, essays, etc.).
I do so and the book is moved from a shelf to the currently reading shelf. When I finished, I mark it as "read" and then assign it to the shelves it belongs (poetry, theatre, literature, essays, etc.).
Linda: When you're going to read the book, click currently-reading. When you're finished, click read. If you want it to register in the site-wide reading challenge, or for other statistical purposes, you need to fill in the date you finished reading it (on the review-writing screen, under the review box--get there by clicking edit review), then click save.
If you are in any other group challenges, you also need to follow the instructions for that challenge and set up a non-exclusive shelf for books that will count in that challenge. (Ignore this piece if it's not relevant.)
If you are in any other group challenges, you also need to follow the instructions for that challenge and set up a non-exclusive shelf for books that will count in that challenge. (Ignore this piece if it's not relevant.)
From http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/5... I click on More Challenges and get an error page. This has been true for many days.
Me too, I don't know what the issue is..... Almeta can you help us???
Linda wrote: "Me too, I don't know what the issue is..... Almeta can you help us???"
Same here :(
Same here :(
It needs to be reported in the Feedback group as a Bug.
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We are not the only ones with this problem, it seems to be happening in a lot of other groups. I did, however, report it again, just to get our two cents added to the discussion.
In the meantime, try linking to your challenges through the Challnge Catalog. Those links still work, and will get you there.
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I think our shelved/not shelved experiment had nothing to do with the “challenge status update” problem. By accidental observation, and some discussion with Debra T, it appears to have something to do with the position of the challenge page within the group.
If the challenge appears on the home page; It’s All About You and Help Yourself, then the status will automatically update (after a cache cycle). If the challenge is on subsequent pages, they never will. Only a manual intervention will change the status.
I reported this to the Feedback group.
Ah, thanks to you and Debra T for working this out - I don't speak code or anything but I can imagine this to be an overlooked bit that needs to be fixed, and should be fixable. Thanks for reporting both issues!
Almeta, please report that we can't view additional challenges. It says "page unvailable" when I try to do so. This has been going on for at least a week.
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See message90.
Just did it yesterday. In the meantime, you can reach them through the Challenge Catalog links.
Ooops. Didn't catch message 90. Good job!
So Debra and Almeta, do you think these glitches are happening because of the Amazon thing??? It seems like we weren't having these problems before that happened. Just wondering.....
The site's having widespread problems with a variety of types of links. I'd bet there's an underlying coding issue.
re msg 90 and some earlier ones - My tally just updated automatically and immediately on my Climb Every Mountain challenge. So, it seems like that set of issues might be fixed - someone else wanna test it? (Still can't get to 'more challenges' from the home page, but the pop-up seems to be saying they know about it, at least.)
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The "first page" challenge automatically updated "You'll Love This One", but not the others.
I'm going to try it again, and wait for "cache time".
Also, if any of you know how to force an update of your tally without clicking on 'update my entry' and seeing the option to change your goal, please tell me (us)!