What's the Name of That Book??? discussion

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SOLVED: Adult Fiction > SOLVED. Medievalish book, there was a really evil dude who could command rats, shadows and a few other things, the whole story was about a bunch of people trying to kill him. [s]

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message 1: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments I read it something like three years ago, but can't remember much about it.The world was mostly forests and mountains, there were huge waterfalls at the "end" of the world, and I remember there was a sequel about his son and the world beyond the falls. There were a couple of people who were supposed to try and kill an evil dude who was taking over the country and perverting everything he touched. He raped a girl and got a son by her, but she didn't tell anyone until it was too late because she was ashamed. There was something about eagles, and the only thing that could hurt the shadow dude were these glass weapons that were somehow imbued with light or something like that. I remember he lived in caves in the mountains. His son was completely white, like an albino. SPOILER (I think)




I think his son went on to be adopted by the king and queen, but he was rejected by everyone and picked on because of who his father had been. End of spoiler.

The sequel beyond the falls talked about a huge swamp with a city in its center. The swamp was filled with humongous beasts, and no one could traverse it safely except the natives, who lived in houses on stilts. I think they used skates made out of tree bark to get around. The whole book was about a lady who they called the beast rider, who for some reason was trying to get the throne of this swamp kingdom. The albino from the previous book helped her, and I remember there was something about pitting some (captured) beasts against one another to determine who would win the throne. There was an old lady who had tons of spiders in the city, and killed many people with them. I'd be very grateful if any of you guys remember it, seeing as it has been torturing me ever since I found Goodreads.
Thanks everyone!


message 2: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44911 comments Mod
Guillermmo, are you still looking for this book? If so, any idea when it was published?


message 3: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments No idea, I read it about 5 years ago and it didn't read like an old book. And I am still looking for it, its been bugging me for quite a while now.


message 4: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 6917 comments Mod
Guillermo--if you bump this up periodically (like say, every couple of months) so that it stayed close to the top of the queue, you might get it found faster. Cause, well, there are those of us that would really LOVE to have this found so that we can read it too.


message 5: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments Of course, I'll make sure to do that from now on. Thanks!


message 6: by Michele (new)

Michele | 2488 comments Perhaps Tad Williams' series, "Memory, Sorrow and Thorn"? The first volume is The Dragonbone Chair. It definitely has the swamp city and the weird spider-like creatures.

The first part, with the evil villain trying to take over the world, the people trying to stop him, the rape and the sequel about her son, sounds lik Guy Gavriel Kay's "Fionavar" trilogy, first book is The Summer Tree.

There is a story within a story about a boy traveling through a swamp looking for a wizard, in Stephen King's The Wind Through the Keyhole, but so far as I recall there's no royalty involved.


message 7: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments I'm sad to say it isn't any of those, but thanks for the effort! The Summer Tree and The Wind in the Keyhole are definitely going on my to-read list, and in the meantime I'll see what other details I can wring from my memory. By the way, the spiders in the books were regular spiders, but there was a witch that could make them obey her.
Thanks everyone!


message 8: by Michele (new)

Michele | 2488 comments There are a few lists of books featuring albinos, for example here, here (only 6 titles!), and here.


message 9: by Viola (new)

Viola Power | 19 comments Some parts sound like the edge chronicle but the part about the kids mom is way of for a kids book.


message 10: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54912 comments Mod
Link to the Edge Chronicles series by Paul Stewart for Viola's suggestion - https://www.goodreads.com/series/5538...


message 11: by Kimber (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 158 comments I agree with Viola - some parts sound like they are straight out of the Edge Chronicles (the land description...the waterfall at the ends of the earth) but the albino and other parts don't seem to fit. Is it possible that you have some books mashed up together in memory? If not then read the Edge Chronicles anyway. There are 11 of them and they form an excellent series. :D


message 12: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments Oh I absolutely love the Edge Chronicles! I really should re-read them, but I remember them being distinctly whimsical (the drawings might have helped), whereas this one was very… old-timey fantasy I guess. There was a lot of emphasis on honor, the violated woman's shame, good guys vs. bad guys and whatnot. Lots of classic fantasy elements in it. It was a lot more graphic than the Edge too, I remember some descriptions of the rats, dogs, crows and the general baddie-controlled "creatures of darkness" giving me the creeps, how they would sweep over the land, devour some archer dude in a tower (he was in a heroic last stand kind of deal) whole and leave nothing but his bones for the good guys to find… It was distinctly grim now that I think about it, and the sequel was quite unsettling too, what with the spider lady, beast fights, and I think there was some sort of massacre at some point, I'm not really sure. Thanks for everything though! I've almost given up on finding it at this point but here's hoping someone here knows it. :)


message 13: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments There was a bunch of stuff with the bad guy turning the land against people too, corrupting it I guess. He was always associated with shadows (the good guys even had glass arrows with sunlight trapped inside, for fuck's sake), and was almost always to be found in one specific cave range inside a mountain, he had subordinate shadows too, like literally shadows that could disappear into thin air and stuff but who had distinct personalities (I remember one of them being the one who took the woman captive), and (I think) the sunshine arrows were the only things that could hurt them. There was a lot of emphasis on the cloaks they wore for some reason. I also remember a lot of stuff about the noble "good" animals as well, how they instinctively fought back against the baddie's tide of darkness, joined the fight against him. There was one particularly heroic warhorse, although I think he died in the last battle thing.


message 14: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments No one? I'm seriously considering the whole thing was a figment of my imagination, this is beyond crazy.


message 15: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1753 comments Sometimes it just takes a while. We recently had one solved after 5+ years Don't give up!


message 16: by Donna (new)

Donna Devillez | 1 comments Pied Piper. A kingdom had a rat problem and hired the pied piper, then did not want to pay him for what he had done. So, he played his flute and all the children could hear the flute and he had the children follow him to a place the adults could not find. But in the end, he does bring the children back.


message 17: by Katie (new)

Katie Taylor | 32 comments Following as i really want to read this book. Elements of the original description remind me of the Goddess of Parthanon series by P.C. Cast.


message 18: by Lyn (new)

Lyn McNeil | 33 comments Sorry to bump this with no answer, yet only another comment about wanting to add this to my list when solved. Adding the other suggestions to my ever-growing To-Read pile!


message 19: by Kimber (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 158 comments The Ratastrophe Catastrophe The Ratastrophe Catastrophe (The Illmoor Chronicles, #1) by David Lee Stone part of the Illmoor Chronicles by David Lee Stone


message 20: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments Nope, that's definitely not it, but I really appreciate you guys' trying.


message 21: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments Bump?


message 22: by Ayshe (last edited Feb 06, 2017 11:05AM) (new)

Ayshe | 4720 comments The Destroying Angel by Bernard King? I haven't read it but there are a series of bizarre murders and attacks upon animals caused by a previously unknown species of “vampire-rat.” and "characters introduced merely to be wiped out and people dying horribly beneath the teeth of packs of small furry animals."
https://books.google.com/books?id=TVB...



message 23: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments Damn, that's not it, but it looks interesting!
Thanks anyway guys, to be honest I've given up on finding it but seeing people post here from time to time makes me think that maybe, just maybe I'll finally solve the mystery, re-read it, add it to my read shelf, and move on with my life. The notification is a fun little surprise that way, and most of the guesses make good additions to my to-read shelf.
I'm so sorry I haven't found it though! I know other people want to read it and if ever and by some miracle I happen to stumble upon it I'll be sure to post here for your pleasure. Thanks a bunch for everything!


message 24: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44911 comments Mod
Don't give up yet, Guillermo. Older requests than this one have actually been solved.


message 25: by Ayshe (last edited Jun 12, 2017 11:52AM) (new)

Ayshe | 4720 comments Have you checked the Loremasters of Elundium Sue suggested here? Review on Shadowlight mentions trillions of rats and rape.

The sequel you remember could be Glitterspike Hall.


message 26: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44911 comments Mod
Guillermo, are you still looking for this or did you find it?


message 27: by Guillermo (last edited Jan 21, 2020 06:14PM) (new)

Guillermo Romero | 19 comments Sorry, I completely forgot about this post, Ayshe was right! This can finally be put to rest thanks to them. I'll be sure to mark this solved, thanks to all involved! Hope you guys have a great day.

(btw is that still how this group works? I'm looking at the rules and stuff and trying to figure out how to move it to the correct subfolder.)


message 28: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44911 comments Mod
You can either move it to the correct subfolder - or a mod will do it. I see that you have moved it. A mod will then shelve the book on the group bookshelves.


message 29: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44911 comments Mod
Eight year old thread....(sometimes it takes awhile.)


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