Mockingjay (The Hunger Games, #3) Mockingjay discussion


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Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) When I first read MJ, I didn't understand everything. Coin was dead? What! I didn't realize that until later. Beete and Gale's bomb and Coin dropping it on the children. That was super confusing too. Was anyone else confused at first?


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Tim I understood about Coin's death. I was expecting it after Katniss played along with the idea of one more Hunger Games.

What I still don't understand is about Katniss' mission into the Capital. It doesn't seem to have added to the book at all except to have her present at the bomb you mention. She didn't accomplish anything at all except to get a lot of good people killed.


Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) Yes. I didn't get the mission either.


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Tim I think the bomb dropping was supposed to be ambiguous, i.e. we never really know whether it was Gale/Beete's design or not nor who ordered it nor even which side launched it. Katniss makes her choice about it based on the things she hears from Snow and Coin afterwards.


Snow Tim wrote: "I think the bomb dropping was supposed to be ambiguous, i.e. we never really know whether it was Gale/Beete's design or not nor who ordered it nor even which side launched it. Katniss makes her ch..."

i agree
she didnt know for sure so she went on instinct


Kirby yeah, I was also kinda bummed that the "mission" ended up accomplishing absolutely nothing except, as you guys said, getting good people killed...there should have been SOMETHING good, no matter how small, to come of it...


Kristen Kirby wrote: "yeah, I was also kinda bummed that the "mission" ended up accomplishing absolutely nothing except, as you guys said, getting good people killed...there should have been SOMETHING good, no matter ho..."

I agree. I was disappointed about that too, but I also kind of like that I didn't expect it to be that way. It's so rare that I don't foresee where a book is heading and at least have a vague idea of the major conflict at the end, that I actually liked that this part of it was unexpected.
But yeah I was still disappointed about it being all for nothing...


Annie I know, right! I guess she just wanted to kill Snow instead of Coin, but still... it's kinda annoying. I was sooo sad when Finnick Died!!! AGGGGGHHH!


Natalia I just feel like the "Girl on Fire" got a bucket of cold water dumped over her head. The mission was pointless really, Finnick's death was pointless as well. He was the only character who despite everything still remained himself. And Katniss was throwing way too many pity parties.

I have mixed feelings about this book.


Natalia Tim wrote: "I think the bomb dropping was supposed to be ambiguous, i.e. we never really know whether it was Gale/Beete's design or not nor who ordered it nor even which side launched it. Katniss makes her ch..."

I think the whole Katniss/Gale things ended too conveniently, you know? How come he is so stubborn and aggressive about everything, but when it came down to that he just brushed it off and left?


Rebecca W. Natalia wrote: "Tim wrote: "I think the bomb dropping was supposed to be ambiguous, i.e. we never really know whether it was Gale/Beete's design or not nor who ordered it nor even which side launched it. Katniss ..."

I miss Gale.. I wish Katniss gave up on Peeta and married Gale!


Natalia Rebecca wrote: "Natalia wrote: "Tim wrote: "I think the bomb dropping was supposed to be ambiguous, i.e. we never really know whether it was Gale/Beete's design or not nor who ordered it nor even which side launch..."

Lol! I love Peeta. But I didn't like how it unraveled.


Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) I didn't like how it unraveled either. Because I don't understand how Katniss didn't even miss him when he left. Their friendship crumbled so quickly. What happened to the wonderful relationship they shared?


Debora Araujo Don`t get me wrong, I apreciate all the effort that the author had creating all this alternative universe of characters in the series but I found the ending really rushed. For instance, in some parts, like when Katniss was in the hospital after getting burned, she spens pages and pages just describing elemental things. But in other parts, including the ending of the love triangule it was just so rushed, I finished reading and just thought that the scene I waited for 3 books didn`t appear. It was really frustating.


Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) Yes. She slowed down days into chapters, and then weeks and weeks into ONE paragraph.


Natalia Debora wrote: "Don`t get me wrong, I apreciate all the effort that the author had creating all this alternative universe of characters in the series but I found the ending really rushed. For instance, in some par..."

YES. Everything felt so rushed, ridiculously. I could've waited another year for the book if it meant getting a more, wholesome conclusion.


Natalia Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) wrote: "I didn't like how it unraveled either. Because I don't understand how Katniss didn't even miss him when he left. Their friendship crumbled so quickly. What happened to the wonderful relationship th..."

I completely agree. I was really hoping for them to show some effort into keeping the oh so important friendship. I guess it wasn't that important to begin with, apparently.


Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) Sadly. Why wouldn't it be important?


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Tim I think I wrote this somewhere else, but there was a huge difference between Peeta's love for Katniss, and Gale's. Gale spent many, many hours with Katniss hunting with her in the forest, he knew her family, she knew his family. Gale's love came from knowing the person that Katniss was very deeply.

For Peeta though, Katniss was kind of this fantasy person he worshiped from afar. He'd heard her sing. He saw her at school. If I remember correctly they had hardly said more than a few words to each other their whole lives, before becoming tributes. So Peeta was in love with this image in his mind of who Katniss was, not Katniss the real person.

I'm not knocking Peeta and Katniss' compatibility or their ability to grow to love each other for real. But I am agreeing with sentiment that the Katniss-Gale relationship was hugely important and real and deserved a far better resolution that it got in the book.


Lea (Peeta's #1 Fangirl!) I understand what you are saying. And yes, their friendship should of been somehow resolved better, if it even had to be. Do you think that they could still be friends after everything that happened?


Natalia I think that, seeing how they deeply cared for one another, they could've still at least tried to be friends, even if Katniss' unforgiving attitude would've made it end anyway. But they didn't even try. It's like it didn't even matter to each other by letting it just go to shit, you know?


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Tim Since Katniss ended up blaming Coin for the bomb, I think she certainly could have worked through the issue she had with Gale. I really would have thought that "after everything that happened" could have made their friendship even stronger.


Natalia It should've!


Natalia Sara one direction fan forever wrote: "I just want them to be friends and for them to work something out. They ruined their relationship of being friends by not communicating. :*("

They lost their essence. I mean at the beginning, they didn't even need to speak to know what the other was thinking.
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Karenina I don't understand why Gale and Katniss' friendship even crumbled. Sure, Gale was jealous of Peeta and Katniss knew it. But Gale did a great job at dealing with his jealousy and his fear of the possibility of Katniss choosing Peeta over him. Katniss on the other hand gets pissed over the most minor of things. She was such a brat in Mockingjay. She allowed for her friendship with Gale to falter. She pushed him away. She acted all hostile and rude and selfish. That one comment that Gale made about Katniss choosing whoever she thinks she can't survive without made me think that by the end Gale realised that the Katniss he knows then isn't the Katniss he wished to spend the rest of his life with. I mean Gale really was a noble soldier. I couldn't say the same thing about Katniss.


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