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Vampire Diaries=Twilight with different names

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Kerri wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest my case"

I missed half of ..."


i know i did the same thing but i got both seasons on box set so i re watched them all and really enjoyed it . i'm glad that the directors had the guts the kill some of the characters off cause sometimes no one dies in series and it gets to predictable.


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Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest my case"

who, i think youre my new fav person! :) AMEN! = - )


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Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "Hello, Brother." :D"


yep <3 damon


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Lucy wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest my case"

who, i think yo..."


lol Thanks :). It's true though.


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i never thought of that reason... wow your right. join my group plz everyone, ones called chatterbox and another iS ON MY PROFILE,


Diane Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest my case"
What could've Bella done really?
Move on?
Booooring.


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Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest my case"
What could've Bell..."


gotten on with her life? accept that he was trying to protect her and respect his wishes? not jumped off a fricking cliff!?!


message 208: by Aneesh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Aneesh Kumar yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls reaction is genuine after knowing that the boy is vampire....not like twilight. watch and see...bella swan doesnt seem to fear vampire(fake) on the other hand in vampire diaries the actress starts running here and there to get away from him.


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Summer Lane Aneesh wrote: "yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls reaction is genuine after knowing that the boy is vampire....not like twilight. watch and se..."

I would totally freak out for a little while if I found out my boyfriend was a vampire. I mean...who wouldn't?!


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Aneesh Kumar Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls reaction is genuine after knowing that the boy is vampire....not like twiligh..."
but in case of bella she wouldn't...when i actually saw that scene i couldn't stop laughing for half an hour....how stupid they make her look, i only see lust in her eyes in place of love ... eventhough i love the background score of piano in the movie brought me goosebumps....


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Summer Lane Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls reaction is genuine after knowing that the boy is vampi..."

Well, let's be honest. Bella is not what I would refer to as a good role model for any young girl.


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Aneesh Kumar Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls reaction is genuine after knowing that t..."

well i agree with u....but who cares.no one sees her as role model, and people can decide for their own. i didnt like twilight even a bit other than jacob no one was interesting.....it could have been alot better as if u see vampire diary they have mystery in past, witches and stuff which makes them more cooler than twilight....twilight sucks


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Summer Lane Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls reaction is genuin..."

I agree that Vampire Diaries is far superior, story-wise and character-wise. Jacob was always my favorite character - in the movies and in the books.


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Aneesh Kumar Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "yeah...both have same vampire bullshit but i like one thing about vampire diaries that atleast the girls rea..."

than we are on the same boat but i am not a girl. so i dnt like jacob the way u like him...i like his colour and accent


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Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest my case"
What could've Bell..."


it was months, 6 or sumfing, hasnt she heard of friends!? you turn to them when your dumped and eat pizza and watch he's just not that into you, then plan some revenge that you may or may not do and then you look at taylor lautners abs to make u feel better, thats what my friends do and 2 be honest, i cant wait until u get dumped and stare out a window for 6 months. should be interesting... ;)


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Rhiannon wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest..."

yep... :)


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Aneesh Kumar Lucy wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help him... i rest..."
lovely...


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Aneesh wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help ..."

Well it's true


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Aneesh wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to fight to help ..."

whore u talking 2? ... :-)


message 220: by Kyla (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kyla loveofwolves I can see where you would relate Twilight to Vampire Diaries but Vampire Diaries did come out WAY before Twilight(Vampire Diaries came out in 1991:wow)but the only real similarity between the two are a)they're vampires and b)two guys want the same girl. However, in VD the guys fighting for the lady's love are brothers and there are werewolves, hybrids, witches, and a lot more characters. Just because there is one very small and very insignificant similarity between the two books does not mean that Twilight is Vampire Diaries with different names or vice versa.


Cheyennea If I was doing a tv show, I would do what was making money too lol


Diane Rhiannon wrote: "gotten on with her life? accept that he was trying to protect her and respect his wishes? not jumped off a fricking cliff!?!"
She didn't know he was trying to protect her; he made her believe that he didn't really love her.

She got depressed. People will get depressed for certain reasons or maybe even for no clear reason at all. She may even had worse problems than that, remember she was having hallucinations?
In real life, people who suffer from depression are always getting told to "get over it" or "look on the bright side". Well, it's not that easy.


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Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "gotten on with her life? accept that he was trying to protect her and respect his wishes? not jumped off a fricking cliff!?!"
She didn't know he was trying to protect her; he made ..."


well, i disagree, she put her whole life around edward, pathetic


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Lucy wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "When edward left bella. bella crawled up in the fetal postion and jumped of a cliff. when stefan left elena she continued to..."

i don't really know who's talking to who it got confussing :s


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Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "gotten on with her life? accept that he was trying to protect her and respect his wishes? not jumped off a fricking cliff!?!"
She didn't know he was trying to protect her; he made ..."


she could have gone to see a professional. to be honest i think if the story was how she got over edward and how she learnt to be dependent on her own would have been a much better story line because it would have been interesting and given a better message to young girls.


Diane Rhiannon wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "gotten on with her life? accept that he was trying to protect her and respect his wishes? not jumped off a fricking cliff!?!"
She didn't know he was try..."

Well that's what was hard about it. She couldn't really say anything about it; if she shared what really happened to a professional then that would be a one way ticket to a psychiatric facility. (Her relationship with Edward had to do so much with his being a vampire, from the initial attraction to their physical relationship limits; so even if she decided to talk to someone she couldn't really get into the specifics.) After a few months she did try to move on with her life despite still being weighted with problems she couldn't share.

Hmmm, that might have been interesting, sort of, but I think it would have negated the love story that twilight established. It was meant to be and marketed as a love story. In my opinion, it doesn't make it less of a journey for Bella even though her desired future is only one that involves Edward.


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Aneesh Kumar Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "Hello, Brother." :D"


very nice...and where do they get these word from like 'vervaine' and many more...


message 228: by .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Stelena&Bamon&Sydrian × ¨*: (last edited Feb 22, 2012 06:38AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Stelena&Bamon&Sydrian × ¨*: Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "Hello, Brother." :D"

very nice...and where do they get these word from like 'vervain..."


That's straight from the books. Kevin and Co. didn't come up with it themselves.


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Aneesh Kumar .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "Hello, Brother." :D"

very nice...and where do they get these word fro..."

i know that...but even the author thought of the names...i would love writing fiction but the only problem is the names and stuffs it scares me a lot...well who cares


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Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "gotten on with her life? accept that he was trying to protect her and respect his wishes? not jumped off a fricking cliff!?!"
She didn'..."


yea but the author could have put in a character in it that was a psychiatric but who knew about vampires


message 231: by S.L.J. (last edited Feb 22, 2012 10:12AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

S.L.J. Bella's not a herione, she's a junkie, hooked on vampire sparkles.

Elena sometimes annoys me too but she's at least a fighter who won't give up because her suck happy bf left her.

Bella is just plain pathetic. She doesn't accomplish one single thing by herself.


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Sammy wrote: "Bella's not a herione, she's a junkie, hooked on vampire sparkles.

Elena sometimes annoys me too but she's at least a fighter who won't give up because her suck happy bf left her.

Bella is j..."


exactly. The vampire diaries story line and characters do have some flaw but at least it works and captivates the reader/ watcher.


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Mary frances this is so wrong vd is so much better then twilight


message 234: by Sarah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sarah I have been watching Vampire Diaries and I actually like it more than Twilight. The VD were written years prior to Twilight, so if one coppies the other, it would be Twilight coppying VD. However, these series are diffrent, they are pretty similar. I think the VD have much more depth that Twilight did, thus I like Elena and Bonnie more than Bella. Though I do love Twilight, don't think I'm bashing it, because I am not. I am a huge Twilight, VD and Vampire Academy fan. :)


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Summer Lane .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "Hello, Brother." :D"

very nice...and where do they get these word fro..."


Yeah, they basically took the basics from the book and ran from there. I mean, the TV show doesn't follow the book at all, except for the first few episodes. The Originals, the Doppelganger and all that is totally from the show's writers.


.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Stelena&Bamon&Sydrian × ¨*: Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "Hello, Brother." :D"

..."


Pretty obvious, The writing's been going downhill. I'm starting to appreciate the books more and more.


Diane Rhiannon wrote: "yea but the author could have put in a character in it that was a psychiatric but who knew about vampires "
Sounds a little too contrived IMO.

It's reasonable that you don't like how it went, some people feel the same way. But that's how Meyer envisioned Bella's journey. Much like life, we can't control how it goes, certain undesirable circumstances may arise (maybe one after the other). People feel how they feel, and they cope with it in their own way. Yes Bella moped, but she got the strength to try to move on, start talking to her friends again, reach out a little bit, write letters to Alice... you can't really say she didn't give any effort to forwarding her life after that rough patch.


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Summer Lane .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hottest though

Always will be, ever since he said "..."


I think the storyline is really good - until they go off on some crazy limb. And by a crazy limb I mean all those horrible random romantic interludes between Damon and any female that wears lip gloss and breathes. I mean....really?


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I know, he should be with Bonnie already.


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Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Totally. Damen's the hott..."

no i like that cause it shows damen character and how he it a bit of a dick


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.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Tot..."

Who? Damen?


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Patti .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Aneesh wrote: "Summer Ellen wrote: "Rhiannon wrote: "Tot..."

Perhaps Damon and Bonnie were a good match in the books, but with the way it's portrayed in the show, I don't think there's any way that they will be getting together (view spoiler).


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S.L.J. I like the originals. Klaus...not sure if I love him or hate him. Elijah, Damon and Ric are the best though. They really make the series fun.

There are no characters that you can actually connect with in Twilight. Well, except Leah. The rest are just idiots.

At least the VD characters are smart. I'm hoping we get a Vampire Academy series/movie soon. :)


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That's the problem though. they keep making Damon so screwed up with all the killings. Besides doesn't surprise me (view spoiler)


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Jake Stelmach Hi guys, how come the vampires in the Diaries can be out in the daylight?


.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Stelena&Bamon&Sydrian × ¨*: Jake wrote: "Hi guys, how come the vampires in the Diaries can be out in the daylight?"

Special rings that protect them from sunlight.


Cynthia My opinion: The Vampire Diaries might have simmilarities with Twi but, TVD is way better. It has a good plot, a strong female main character (Elena) and strong friends (Caroline & Bonnie) The love triangle, wasn't even a love triangle cause Elena hated Damon at the beginning, then became friends, then she hated him again for killing her brother, and then became friends again then she fell IN love with Damon and OUT of love with Stefan. Bella just fell head over heels in love with Edward the second she saw him and desperately wanted to become a vampire. Elena NEVER wanted that but she died so they didn't have much of a choice. Then, the story line of the vampire Diaries is way better. Way more exiting and Different.

So no I don't think Tvd copied Twilight, Sure Twi might have helped with the succes of TVD but the fact that it remaind succesfull was all because of the show itself and not cause of Twilight.

Again My opinion.


message 249: by Somerandom (last edited May 20, 2014 01:08AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Somerandom I remember all the preteens at my Primary (Elementary) School reading the Vampire Diaries during the 90s.
How can TVD copy Twilight if it was released a decade before?
In any case, I can at least watch the soapy teen drama of TVD with a bit of interest. The Twilight movie on the other hand was laughably bad imo.


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Jake Stelmach .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Tomas Vrbada Like Woe × ¨*: wrote: "Jake wrote: "Hi guys, how come the vampires in the Diaries can be out in the daylight?"

Special rings that protect them from sunlight."


Thank you!


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