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Vampire Diaries=Twilight with different names

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message 51: by [deleted user] (new)

yes!! i agree!


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Erin wrote: "I jjst started watching the vampire diaries and it is so much like Twilight it isnt funny. It is crazy like it is Twilgiht but with a different name and different charcters.

If you have watched..."


NO. they are completly different. first off in the show of Vampire Diaries and the books are complety different. one, Elena is a Mary Sue in the books and is sooooooooooo mean she is like your typical Mean Girls charrie. and they changed the series a lot. in the books she has a young sister who is like 5. in the show she has a younger brother. on the show she is nice. in the books she is a total mean girl. there are sooooooooooooo mnay differences.
i think when people diecded to make the show they wanted it more like Twilight so that more people would like it. because if Elena was as mean as she really is in the books NO ONE would like or realte to her.


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Lucy wrote: "Erin wrote: "I was wondering which one came out first."

vampire diaries came out first! SO TWILGHT IS COPYING VAMPIRE DIARIES!!!!!!!!! I AM SICK OF PEOPLE COMPARING EVERTHING TO TWILIGHT! OF COU..."


WHOA! rant much. i understand where you are coming from but could you GROW UP!


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Ricco wrote: "The Vampire Diaries came out in the 90's way before Twilight, so if anything Twilight copied the Vampire Diaries. The first book of the Vampire Diaries series was first published Sept..."

thanks you :)


Amanda I think all teen vampire fiction these days has pretty much the same themes as Twilight as it's so popular. Even teen fantasy fiction in general. BUT the Vampire Diaries was actually first published in 1991 - a whole 14 years before Twilight! So you can't exactly say the author copied Twilight. Not that I am saying Stephenie Meyer did the same, but a lot of people assume Twilight was the first of its kind due to its popularity. Is the Vampire Diaries series any good BTW? I have it on my list of things to read.


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Cat wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Erin wrote: "I was wondering which one came out first."

vampire diaries came out first! SO TWILGHT IS COPYING VAMPIRE DIARIES!!!!!!!!! I AM SICK OF PEOPLE COMPARING EVERTHING TO TWILI..."


Hey listen, I've got a secret I DON'T GIVE A FUDGE WHAT YOU THINK caps came on automatically so shut it


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Amanda wrote: "I think all teen vampire fiction these days has pretty much the same themes as Twilight as it's so popular. Even teen fantasy fiction in general. BUT the Vampire Diaries was actually first publishe..."

The book series is OK. But the tv series is WOW. It's Soooo much better than the books. Plus, there's a bunch of hot guys, YAY ! ;)
You can buy season 1 & 2 of TVD ( the vampire diaries ) at a DVD store OR watch it online. Just type in...









Vampire diaries season 1 episode 1









Good websites are megavideo on sidereel.





Type this too if u want : vampire diaries season 1 episode 1 sidereel.






If you make a sidereel account it's FREE! It might take some time figuring the sight out and the best links BUT I am 14 and figured it out at the age of 12.


message 58: by Cate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cate I like Twilight, and I like the Vampire Diaries, but the Vampire Diaries tv show is completely stupid and honestly, even though I like the Twilight movies, they are no where as good as the books. And yes, like so many people have said, Vampire Diaries came out first. I think it was out before I was even born (or sortly thereafter). And aside from that, I don't really think the two series are that much alike (aside from the obvious vampire/human romance in both. And even that is technically different between the two).


Sanne ♔ AlbertaJenn wrote: "I don't get why people constantly think: teen + paranormal + love triangle = copy. I could go through the shelves at the bookstore I work at and pick out a dozen series with this general theme in t..."

So true.


message 60: by [deleted user] (new)

I know, right?


Cayra The only similarities I can see between VD and Twilight is that the heroine is in love with a vampire and there's a love triangle. My sister and I were so excited when we heard a Vampire Diaries TV show was coming out,....then we watched the pilot episode...

Changed the story a little? They didn't even bother with keeping their appearance the same! (Coincidently, Elena now looks like Bella and Stephan is a better looking Edward) Or the location.

We watched a few more episodes, to see if it improved and because Damon was HOT! But he's not hot enough to keep punishing ourselves, so we stoppped


message 62: by [deleted user] (new)

wow, you missed some seriously good plots.... BTW nina dobrev ( elena ) offered to die her hair and wear special coloured contacts. they said ok, but changed there minds. wasnt that nice of her to offer? she looks better like that.


Marta Szemik I watch Vampire Diaries and love Twilight. There are similarities and differences between the two, main one being VD have more of a supernatural aspect with the witches and hybrids.
I enjoy watching the relationships evolve and characters change - especially their views of vampires and weres.

I do believe Stephenie Meyer did not read VD before writing Twilight. There are authors who never hear of each other and write similar books in other genres as well.

Marta
Author, Two Halves


message 64: by [deleted user] (new)

Stephanie Meyers copied the Sookie Stackhouse novels and vampire diaries and Jane Austen. And even worse I was reading The Black Dagger Brotherhood and found a LOT of similarities. Yikes!!!!!


Amanda Lucy wrote: "Amanda wrote: "I think all teen vampire fiction these days has pretty much the same themes as Twilight as it's so popular. Even teen fantasy fiction in general. BUT the Vampire Diaries was actually..."

Thanks for that Lucy. Ya I've heard the tv series is really good, and yes I'd have to agree there are lots of hotties in it! Particularly Ian Sommerhalder...yum!!


message 66: by Sabzzy123 (last edited Feb 01, 2012 12:42PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Sabzzy123 Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting more of a love story with in that. And also if u have only seen the movie for twilight. Its not at all like the books I felt it doesn't go in depth as much as the book but also vampire diaries is muchbetter book and show. Twilight is also badly written because is suppose to be written for an older age group but complying more to younger teens and even elementary schoolers. And its just not well written at all. I mean some people like the plot even though its lame but you'll catch that it's inconsistent and just not that well written. Vampire diaries is awesome


.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Stelena&Bamon&Sydrian × ¨*: Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting more of a love story with in that. And also if u h..."

I don't understand what everyone means by "Badly written" or "Not well written" It's not like Stephenie writes incoherently of in which you can't understand what she's saying. What inconsistencies is in Twilight? Besides TVD has been going downhill anyways. so much for awesome.


message 68: by Cate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cate Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting more of a love story with in that. And also if u h..."

Twilight was not intended for an older age group. It is a teen book. And for the record, compared to a lot of other books I have read (several of which have been so called adult books) it was very well written. And I suggest that the next time you want to say something about who badly something was written, you at least write your review properly.


message 69: by Cate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cate .·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting more of a love story with in tha..."

I agree with you completely.


message 70: by Dee (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dee I don't think The Vampire Diaries show (never read the books) is anything like the Twilight books/movies. Other than they are both have vampires and werewolves, I really don't see any similarities at all. I LOVE the Vampire Diaries and HATE the Twilight movies, even though I like the books.


Grace Vampire Diaries is not a copy of Twilight. It's the oter way around. Why? Because Vampire Diaries is book series made in like the 90s, which the show is based on. The Twilight books were made way later.


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Lucy wrote: "Cat wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Erin wrote: "I was wondering which one came out first."

vampire diaries came out first! SO TWILGHT IS COPYING VAMPIRE DIARIES!!!!!!!!! I AM SICK OF PEOPLE COMPARING EVERTH..."


calm down, okay! it's not that big of a deal and you dont have to yell at people. vampire diaires was out wayyyyyyyy before twilight and a lot of people know that. i know it is annoying when people assume becuase twilight is so popular and all but come on. and second, twilight wasn't coped because of vampire diaries. Meyer had a dream and that is what started the idea. so dont assume just because they are both vampire lovestories that it is the other way around. okay? lets be rational about this.


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Caitlin wrote: "I like Twilight, and I like the Vampire Diaries, but the Vampire Diaries tv show is completely stupid and honestly, even though I like the Twilight movies, they are no where as good as the books. A..."

thank you. the only similaries between the too is that they are vampire lovestories.


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Marta wrote: "I watch Vampire Diaries and love Twilight. There are similarities and differences between the two, main one being VD have more of a supernatural aspect with the witches and hybrids.
I enjoy watchin..."


amen :)


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Caitlin wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres wa..."

AMEN!


message 76: by Cate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cate Cat wrote: "Caitlin wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Ste..."

Cat, I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one around here who thinks that. Now, If everyone would excuse me, I have to leave because this discussion is making me want to read Twilight.


Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Caitlin wrote: "Cat wrote: "Caitlin wrote: ".·:*¨ × Shannon♥Loving Like Woe × ¨*:·. wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I f..."

:)


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Caitlin wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting more of a love story with in tha..."

You went and read her review cause you didn't like the comment, dear god what's the world coming too? I completely agree with sabzzy! Vampire diaries is awesome. And did you just say she was WRONG?! It's her opinion that I agree with completely. That's was plain rude.


message 79: by [deleted user] (new)

I agree with most of sabzzys comment ( not the twilghts good part but hey long live vampire diaries! )


message 80: by Cate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cate Lucy wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting more of a love s..."

I did not say her opinion was wrong. I said the so called facts in her review were wrong. Think whatever you want people. I honestly don't care. But don't go around bashing the writing of something, when you can't even write a proper sentance.


Treece Erin wrote: "I jjst started watching the vampire diaries and it is so much like Twilight it isnt funny. It is crazy like it is Twilgiht but with a different name and different charcters.

If you have watched..."


NO comparison. LJ Smith wrote the Vampire Diaries well before Meyers was a whisper. Plus, she a far superior writer.


message 82: by Kadi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kadi Uhmm NO.
1 Vampire Diaries has Witches and Hybrids
2 WAY different plot
3 The Twilight books suck!


Nya Tomlinson-Horan-Malik-Payne-Styles no. the vampire diaries is nothing like twilight. just because it has vampires and another special kind of creature, doesnt mean that it is "twilight with different names"


.·:*¨ × Shannon♥Stelena&Bamon&Sydrian × ¨*: Patrice wrote: "Erin wrote: "I jjst started watching the vampire diaries and it is so much like Twilight it isnt funny. It is crazy like it is Twilgiht but with a different name and different charcters.

If you..."


if she's such an far superior writer, then why is the return trilogy an disappointing mess?


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Caitlin wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was just writting mor..."

Here's a sentence for you. " Shut up! "
No one cares about correct spelling and stuff, we're just TALKING!


message 86: by [deleted user] (new)

FlightlessSparrow wrote: "Uhmm NO.
1 Vampire Diaries has Witches and Hybrids
2 WAY different plot
3 The Twilight books suck!"


OMG, I think I'm in love with that comment SOOOOO TRUE!!!


message 87: by Cate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cate Lucy wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie myeres was j..."

And you call me rude.


message 88: by Erin (new) - rated it 3 stars

Erin Guys come on this is just a discussion not a debate!


message 89: by Re (new) - rated it 5 stars

Re Jabarin Twilight and Vampire Diaries cannot be put in the same sentence. it won't make any sense. Vampire Diaries is a breath taking series with characters that captures your attention and steals your heart (even the evil ones- like Klause !!). it has a plot, and in every episode it leaves you wondering how in the world will they come up with a powerful ending to match this much of suspense. Unwillingly you find yourself falling in an unexplained addiction for the series. you feel like you have no choice but to love it!
while Twiligh on the other hand, well… i read the Twiligh saga and watched all the movies and i didn't like both. i found the story to be unrealistic! a story that talks about vampires should have real vampires! talks about bloodlust, thirst and contempt for the human kind. i mean, the love story of Elena and Stefan, that's a story that talks about a real vampire who falls in love with a real human girl who's at first was frightened of him and did not say "i don't care if you're a vampire". i did not relate or sympathize with any of the characters (perhaps only Jacop) , and found the story to be quite forgettable (just a bunch of boys fighting over a girl who's always followed by danger). howeve, i know that vampire diaries is a story for all ages to remember (the existence of Damon alone -with all his flaws and mischievousness- is enough to make the series worth watching! unlike Edward whose perfection and morality is irritating)


message 90: by [deleted user] (new)

Caitlin wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Sabzzy123 wrote: "Maybe some of u have said this already but the vampire diaries was written 20 years before twilight I feel like Stephanie..."




I'm not rude, I'm a bitch and your rude. See do you u-n-d-e-r-s-t-a-n-d ?!


message 91: by [deleted user] (new)

Erin wrote: "Guys come on this is just a discussion not a debate!"

Anyways, we're right your first comment here is wrong, take it back and stop the madness!


message 92: by [deleted user] (new)

Re wrote: "Twilight and Vampire Diaries cannot be put in the same sentence. it won't make any sense. Vampire Diaries is a breath taking series with characters that captures your attention and steals your hear..."


Listen to her! Everyone, she speaks the truth, she's a genius! I agree and private message for RE ( there a group called chatter box, and a discussion for vampire diaries tv show fans, yay! ). Anyway AMEN how much more reason do u want?!


message 93: by [deleted user] (new)

I feel like I should give a million comments on re's comment I mean it's.... Like what I think but can't put into words, you're AMAZINGLY COMMENT TALENTED ( I made that up like 1 sec ago )


message 94: by [deleted user] (last edited Feb 04, 2012 05:39PM) (new)

Caitlin, let's put everything behind us for this comment. I compared our books ( I do that with people I dont like, no offense ) we've got 60 books in common ( a lot ) and you have OK taste with the exepsion of twilight LOL!!
I saw you want to read a touch mortal by Leah Clifford ( I think that's the author, I forget stuff like that ) I know a website where you can read it ( everyone should see how amazing this book is ) type This in :














Epubbud
















Click on first link. Then on the website there should be a search bar. Type this exactly: a touch mortal : click on first link again and you should work it out, I did, epubbud has lots more books, don't type the author in either, sometimes it's a broken link ( person who payed for book to go up on the site wrote it crap or not at all) and you can read Anna dressed in blood, the sequel to that is nightmare girl and it's out in august. A touch morbid not out yet either, it's a touch mortal sequel, this is for other people to use too. Not just caitlin ( obviously lol ) have fun! :) :) :):):):):):):):):):)


Rachel NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love vampire diaries and i can tell you that they are different. i admit I can get annoyed with Elana, but she is definetly better then Bella. And though both have vampires, werewolves, and supernatural beings they r completly different. I adore vampire diaries so give it a try. it is honest to god better


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Tv shows better than book ( VD ( vampire diaries ). )


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Don't forget the sidereal comment, scroll up 2 find it


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Don't forget the sidereal comment, scroll up 2 find it


message 99: by S.L.J. (last edited Feb 04, 2012 06:09PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

S.L.J. I thought Twilight was brilliantly written but that there was no story. SM is very elegant and crafty with her writing but not her imagination. There are far too many refernces to other stories that she is trying to put her own take on.

In other words; amazing writing, great story telling, but nothing orginial. Just recycled books from earlier authors.

No problem with that of cource, except, when it comes to adding your own spin on an already existing tale. You can do want you want, within reason, but what you can't do is go against your own set rules.

SM did this and it ruined everything.


message 100: by Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* (last edited Feb 04, 2012 08:34PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Cat *living for the One who breaths life into me* Lucy wrote: "Re wrote: "Twilight and Vampire Diaries cannot be put in the same sentence. it won't make any sense. Vampire Diaries is a breath taking series with characters that captures your attention and steal..."

everyone has there thoughts, but unfortunatly the person who started this didn't ask what people thought of each book and which book was better she asked if vampire diaries copyed twilight, which even twilight fans know that isn't true. so it is really not that big of a deal who is wrong and who is right and which book sucks so can you just stop. both of you please :)


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