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message 1: by James (last edited Nov 09, 2008 09:26AM) (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments SPOILER TALK!!
You know when he splits he says sorta that he is not the son of billy... or that Billy is older then he appears...
"The son of_____ was never.."
so is Jacob the son of Billy or is Billy not Billy?!!!


message 2: by I ♥ Luke Castellan *Alexa*, and Twilight! (new)

I ♥ Luke Castellan *Alexa* (i_love_jacob_black_95) | 3164 comments Yes of course he is!


message 3: by James (last edited Nov 09, 2008 09:26AM) (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments so he's not the grandson? He said he was the grandson before ( and who is his mom?)


message 4: by Daisy (new)

Daisy Yeah jacob's mom died but thats all I know


message 5: by Ashlynn (new)

Ashlynn No, they've always said that Jacob was Billy's son... lol and yeah no one actually talks about Jakes mom unless they say she died...


message 6: by Ashlynn (new)

Ashlynn actaully i dont think his mom is mentioned at all...



message 7: by Daisy (new)

Daisy yes she is.


message 8: by Vivian (new)

Vivian | 326 comments she died. remember he made that reference to her coffin being nailed shut?


message 9: by James (last edited Nov 09, 2008 09:24AM) (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments SPOILER
no no no... sory i didn't word it well.. I know jacob is the son of billy, but when jacob split from the pack he said well i don't remember exactly what he said, but basicly he said that billy was the one who signed the treaty with the cullens and that was hinted at throughout the books so is billy realy billy...?


message 10: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments jakes mom died In a car accidient...it says that in Eclipse I'm pretty sure.


message 11: by Vivian (new)

Vivian | 326 comments i think it was so cute when Seth came and followed Jacob.


message 12: by James (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments But Billy could be super old but because he is a werewolf...
SPOILER
in the battle V.S. the Volti (spelled it wrong?) there were a lot more werewolves and Edward said they have been holding out on us
then nobody explained were all the other weres came from so they could be old ones that are still alive…



message 13: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments no he wasn't a werewolf...it did skip a generation....

im confused at what James is talking about

??????

and their not really werewolves there shape shifters...were wolves r children of the moon something completly different.


message 14: by James (last edited Nov 13, 2008 02:15PM) (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments Well he says that does skipped, but if Billy is really the one who signed the treaty with the Cullen’s (HE could be long lived and had to do what the vamps do change identity) (it explains why Billy knew Edward on sight at Bella house)then Jacob could be the son Bill but Billy is not really Billy or Billy has a different name.... the shapshifters can live longer than normal humans


message 15: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments yeah James...hmmm....

i knoww shapshifters can live forever until they stop changing for a long period of time! :D

so jake could live forever to b with Nessie cuz she lives forevea.


message 16: by James (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments hold it, billy is the son of the one who signed the paper with the cullens at first and billy is not a werewolf..... yess.... happy .....
next one what will jacobs and nessies kids if they have them be able to do !!!?


message 17: by [deleted user] (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:39AM) (new)

I always was under the impression that although Billy was never a wolf he still had some of the senses. Like he could smell Edward like Jacob does. Plus he knows the Cullens by name and it is a small town I am sure he could recognize his fancy car lol. What I want to know is why they had to nail Jacobs moms coffin shut?? If she died in a car accident which I am pretty sure they say in like Eclipse or New Moon... why did they nail it shut?


message 18: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments cuz it her body might have been all burned and mutilated...and there really wasn't much of her body there but a burned up destroyed corpse.

and if someone saw that...they could have metal issues!


message 19: by James (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments yes it would


message 20: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin I have another question...I don't really understand what happened w/ Jacob and the pack. Did they come back together, or did Leah/Jacob/Seth remain separate?!?!


message 21: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments yeah i think they did too...it also said Quil and Embry joined Jacob's pack! :D


message 22: by Erica (new)

Erica (thppjfan) So...much...twilight...noledge



message 23: by Erica (new)

Erica (thppjfan) Wouldn't want anyone thinking that...


message 24: by James (new)

James (methatonekid) | 9 comments no ??!


message 25: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments of Course not...pffft were not obsessed at all...:D


message 26: by Erica (new)

Erica (thppjfan) And we never think...things...twilight...related...never


message 27: by Danielle (new)

Danielle (dazzy) | 2 comments James wrote: "But Billy could be super old but because he is a werewolf...
SPOILER
in the battle V.S. the Volti (spelled it wrong?) there were a lot more werewolves and Edward said they have been holding out o..."


edward or someone said that there are more werewolves because of the amount of vampires that had been staying in the area. When there is high amounts of vampires more werewolves transform to protect the res!they were all jus kids like 13 thats wat bella said..




message 28: by Tina (new)

Tina | 4 comments hi everyone, i'm new here but i'm not much of a fan of twilight, just a jacob black fan (yes, i know it sounds ridiculous). let me see, you can always correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm presuming you were referring to this line... Ephraim Black's son was not born to follow Levi Uley's... am I correct? well, if this is the line, this just means that any descendant of ephraim is not meant to be under the authority of any descendant of levi. so yes, jacob is billy's son. jacob was just being general about it since he wanted (though unwillingly) to make it clear that he was born to be an Alpha. and yes, it skipped billy's generation because there were no cold ones during their time. remember, the wolves started showing up again because the cullens returned to forks as mentioned by jacob in new moon. i hope i was helpful! enjoy your day!


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

I think that Billy says he skipped being a wearwolf but he actually was a wearwolf and lik found the way to keep aging
then settled and had jacob for a son.
Then maybe He was he one who signed the treaty a long time ago. Its possible.
I mean hes an elder and everyone respects him a lot and Jacob doesnt really know why. So then that could be your anwser...
It could happen...


message 30: by Tina (last edited Jan 04, 2009 07:25AM) (new)

Tina | 4 comments Natalie wrote: "I think that Billy says he skipped being a wearwolf but he actually was a wearwolf and lik found the way to keep aging
then settled and had jacob for a son.
Then maybe He was he one who signed th..."


hi Natalie, Stephenie Meyer said in an interview that Ephraim is not Billy. So that answers our question on whether he is the one who signed the treaty or not. You can check it out in her official website for the FAQ's if you have not seen it yet. It is a great site for infos about anything SM. Good day! c",)


message 31: by Erica (new)

Erica (thppjfan) LOL same!


message 32: by Christina♥ (new)

Christina♥  | 279 comments lol yeah I think that Billy is not Ephraium or whoever lol


message 33: by soomy (new)

soomy | 16 comments ya i agree. u all r corrrecto mentay. yupyup. hehe...


message 34: by Mellady77 (new)

Mellady77 Stibich | 1149 comments Christina♥ wrote: "jakes mom died In a car accidient...it says that in Eclipse I'm pretty sure."

Absolutely and that's how come Billy is in a wheelchair


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