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Yes you can select stories from a specific publication period if you can find enough pages to fit. (I'm sorry you had to get out of the car.)
Leigh wrote: "Still fussing around with list... (I haven't figured out how to do as a flow chart, but now have a color coded spreadsheet and keep contemplating programming an algorithm to solve it. LOL.)I ru..."
Drive thru library! I love it!!
Leigh wrote: "The Extraordinary Cases of Sherlock Holmes. This particular collection was published in 1988, but it lists when each story originally was published. If I added the pages of the ones that qualified for the 1905-1916 slot and got a workable page number, could I use that as an option? Or would I put it in the 1977-1988 slot with all the pages?..."As scorekeeper, my first response is "Don't use it, choose another book!" :P
As in the past, occasional exceptions will be allowed, but please ask ahead of time & then remind me when you claim the points that so-and-so approved the book.
Liz M wrote: As scorekeeper, my first response is "Don't use it, choose another book!" :P
I can do that too! I paid a whole $0.50 for it and haven't started to read it yet. The suffering in the 30 sec exposure to the gorgeous fall day wasn't too bad either.
I can do that too! I paid a whole $0.50 for it and haven't started to read it yet. The suffering in the 30 sec exposure to the gorgeous fall day wasn't too bad either.
The Scarlet Pimpernel: 1903 or 1905? I've figured out the books either way; I just need a response as to which year The Scarlet Pimpernel counts as.1892-1904 N-O 261-300/661-700
1903 Orczy, Emmuska – The Scarlet Pimpernel (271p)
1905-1916 A-B 181-220/581-620
1913 Burroughs, Edgar Rice –A Princess of Mars [#1] (202p)
OR
1892-1904 A-B 181-220/581-620
1902Bennett, Arnold – The Grand Babylon Hotel (1902) (219p)
1904 Baum, L. Frank – The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904) [#2] (192p)
1904 Barrie, J. M. – Peter Pan (1904) (192p)
1905-1916 N-O 261-300/661-700
1905 Orczy, Emmuska – The Scarlet Pimpernel (271p)
The issue is that The Scarlet Pimpernel was written as a play and staged in 1903. A novelization of the play was put together, and that novelization was first published in 1905. I've seen both dates used. Which one will Reading with Style use?
Deedee wrote: "The issue is that The Scarlet Pimpernel was written as a play and staged in 1903. A novelization of the play was put together, and that novelization was first published in 1905. I've seen both dates used. Which one will Reading with Style use?..."Oooh, you all find all the tricksy ones! I am going with 1905 (Furthermore, according to wiki the play had a substantial re-write between 1903 and 1905 and the novel was published after the play became successful).
Liz M wrote: "Deedee wrote: "The issue is that The Scarlet Pimpernel was written as a play and staged in 1903. A novelization of the play was put together, and that novelization was first published in 1905. I've..."OK fine :0)
This has been a very entertaining task to pick books for.
The clarification on TSP just rocked my CiV plan; back to the drawing board! I'm so glad this was asked before I started these books! Thanks Deedee!
1892-1904 A-B 181-220/581-6201902Bennett, Arnold – The Grand Babylon Hotel (1902) (219p)
1904 Baum, L. Frank – The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904) [#2] (192p)
1904 Barrie, J. M. – Peter Pan (1904) (192p)
And now, one of my alternatives have the same problem. This is from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Pan-Barne...
"Peter Pan first flew across a London stage in 1904, overwhelming audiences with its tale of a magical boy who never grows up, who lures young Wendy and her brothers to Neverland where they meet pirates, Indians, fairies, and the Lost Boys. Following the play’s astonishing success, J. M. Barrie revised and expanded the story and published it as this novel, originally titled Peter and Wendy when it appeared in 1911. For children, it remains a marvelous mix of fantasy and adventure, featuring unique, imaginative characters, who frisk and frolic in an enchanting land."
That 1892-1904 slot is tricky to fill!
I still have:::
1892-1904 A-B 181-220/581-620
1902Bennett, Arnold – The Grand Babylon Hotel (1902) (219p)
1904 Baum, L. Frank – The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904) [#2] (192p)
I'm leaning towards The Grand Babylon Hotel, with Oz as a back-up.
Paula wrote: "The clarification on TSP just rocked my CiV plan; back to the drawing board! I'm so glad this was asked beforeistarted thes books! Thanks Deedee!"Your welcome :0) == and, I learned something new: I had not realized before now that The Scarlet Pimpernel was a play BEFORE it was a novel. I'm still planning to read it, but I've lost A Princess of Mars as a result (though Princess will fit 10.9)
I'm fortunate that a couple of years ago they built a branch of our library in our subdivision which is soooo convenient. Our catalog is on-line and it shows which branches the books are and you can request them to be sent to your local branch for pick-up from any of the other branches. I thought that was top of the line but now I have library envy. I want a drive through!Elizabeth if I lived in Alaska, I know I'd want one or even better a pneumatic tunnel that would send them straight to my house so I wouldn't have to go out in the frozen wasteland!(smile)
Rebekah wrote: "I'm fortunate that a couple of years ago they built a branch of our library in our subdivision which is soooo convenient. Our catalog is on-line and it shows which branches the books are and you ca..."I would love to have a drive through in large part because the branch right by our house has the most cramped parking lot I've ever seen. I'm about to start requesting books to be sent to another branch that's slightly farther away just because I hate navigating it.
Yeah! I think I have my list figured. I just have to find an edition The Hobbit with the right page count. My copy is 1 page short LOL. I probably won't get through them but it has been fun looking and digging books out of my real-life bookshelves.
I am new and a little confused! Do the CiV books need to be completely separate from the 10 and 20 point books? A book cannot count for both?
Rosemary wrote: "I am new and a little confused! Do the CiV books need to be completely separate from the 10 and 20 point books? A book cannot count for both?"That is correct. It's a little sub-challenge, which can be done on its own if you choose. The 10- and 20-point tasks can earn combo points, but not the #15 tasks.
And another question (sorry!) - what if a book has two authors?
Rosemary wrote: "And another question (sorry!) - what if a book has two authors?"Ask as many questions as need be! But I think Liz, our scorekeeper, should answer this one.
Rosemary wrote: "And another question (sorry!) - what if a book has two authors?"Ooh, that's a good question. In that case, use the author listed first on the cover/title page
itpdx wrote: "Yeah! I think I have my list figured. I just have to find an edition The Hobbit with the right page count. My copy is 1 page short LOL. I probably won't get through them but it has been fun loo..."
The Hobbit torpedoed my CiV list. Got to the end of the book and realized that my edition was not the 300+ page one!
The Hobbit torpedoed my CiV list. Got to the end of the book and realized that my edition was not the 300+ page one!
nsfancy wrote: "itpdx wrote: "Yeah! I think I have my list figured. I just have to find an edition The Hobbit with the right page count. My copy is 1 page short LOL. I probably won't get through them but it ha..."Oh no! I've carefully checked the last page of my CiV books to confirm the pages numbers without accidentally reading the text.
Liz M wrote: "Oh no! I have been carefully checking the last page of my CiV book to confirm the pages numbers without accidentally reading the text. "I have made two - count 'em two - special trips to the library to confirm the page numbers of the editions in their inventory match their online catalog descriptions! And, trust me, this verification wasn't easy! This is the University library which is organized by the Library of Congress method, so just finding the darn books wasn't easy. And then, both books were on the shelf on the floor, necessitating me getting down on my hands and knees just to read the spines so I could pull the right book. Of course, the hard part was getting back up again, which gets harder and harder with every birthday.
Liz M wrote: "nsfancy wrote: "itpdx wrote: "Yeah! I think I have my list figured. I just have to find an edition The Hobbit with the right page count. My copy is 1 page short LOL. I probably won't get throug..."
My fingers are crossed at this point, I have 2 on request from the library that should meet the criteria given their on-line information. But I haven't actually had my hands on them yet. Did someone use the word diabolical with respect to this challenge?
My fingers are crossed at this point, I have 2 on request from the library that should meet the criteria given their on-line information. But I haven't actually had my hands on them yet. Did someone use the word diabolical with respect to this challenge?
The Hobbit torpedoed my CiV list. Got to the end of the book and realized that my edition was not the 300+ page one! I am hoping that the library catalog is accurate. They have a number of editions listed. The one with the correct number of pages for my plan is one illustrated by Tolkien, which should be interesting in its own right. But there is a wait-list for this edition, so I won't know for sure until my turn comes. Checking an on-line store, Powells, has the same edition listed with one more page but still within the range for the challenge.
Fingers crossed.
Question: John Dos Passos counts as "C-D" right? (although I've figured out CiV both "C-D" and "P-Q-R"). Our local library has him filed under "D".I have my list but I keep fussing at it. The only slots that won't change are the ones I've already claimed. :)
Lucky me. The page counts listed for my library books in the online library catalog all matched the physical books when I picked them up! Whew. The only remaining possible gotcha is that I'm 2nd on a waiting list for an audiobook. Let's hope neither of the borrowers in front of me keep the book past their due dates. What a relief to have the planning portion done!!
Hi, a maybe stupid question, but I'm just not sure...Can I use a book either for the "Home Challenge" or the CiV, or can I score for both with one book?
thanks, Phoebe
Phoebe wrote: "Hi, a maybe stupid question, but I'm just not sure...Can I use a book either for the "Home Challenge" or the CiV, or can I score for both with one book?
thanks, Phoebe"
A book can only earn task points once and cannot be read for both CiV and the RwS 10 & 20 point tasks.
If you read a book for RwS, that qualifies for multiple 10 & 20 point tasks, you earn combo points. For example, A Visit from the Goon Squad fit tasks 20.7, 20.8, & 20.10 so it earns 20 task points and 10 combo points.
Take a look through the completed tasks thread and see it it starts to make more sense. And keep asking questions! It is complicated, but once you get the hang of it hopefully you'll enjoy it as much as we do.
Dumb Question - can I still get review points for a CiV book that I'm claiming or is that only for the 10 & 20 point tasks? Thx.
No such thing as a dumb question! Sorry, no, your review for a CiV book will not earn you extra points. But we'd love to know what you think of all your reads!
Thanks for the explanation! :) slowly getting a hang of it. :)
Not sure if this has been answered already... but when we complete a CiV task, should our "grand total" include points from the other challenges and vice versa? Or do they remain separate "scores?" Thanks in advance!
Your score is an aggregate of all the tasks, so yes, your CiV reads get added to your RwS (10- and 20-) reads. I never get to all of the tasks. I try to fit in what I wanted to read anyway, and in this way the challenge helps to direct my reading. Only rarely will I actually complete one or the other of the challenges and be awarded the completion bonus.
I have a question about a book of short stories. I read Fancies and Goodnights which was published as an anthology in 1951, but which contained stories mostly first published in the 30s in the New Yorker. I had planned to put this book in the 1929-1940 slot based on the original date of the stories, but wanted to check if that was allowed.I liked the stories so much that I also got another collection of his stories, A Touch of Nutmeg and More Unlikely Stories, which is the author's 11th published work. Because there is some repetition in the stories in the two books, I only want to claim one of them.
I'd rather claim Fancies and Goodnights since I read it first and since I'd slated it for CiV before realizing the publication date issue. But if it doesn't work, I'll just claim the nutmeg one.
ETA: I guess both are also underrated, so I can use one there if it won't work for CiV.
And another last minute question since I seem to have to keep changing my books:Does The Stranger Beside Me: The Twentieth Anniversary Edition count as published in 1980 (the original publication date) or 2000 (since it is a revised and updated version)?
Joanna wrote: "Does The Stranger Beside Me: The Twentieth Anniversary Edition count as published in 1980 (the original publication date) or 2000 (since it is a revised and updated version)? ..."I am going to say it a different book and the original publication date is 2000.
Joanna wrote: "I have a question about a book of short stories. I read Fancies and Goodnights which was published as an anthology in 1951, but which contained stories mostly first published in the 30s in the New Yorker. I had planned to put this book in the 1929-1940 slot based on the original date of the stories, but wanted to check if that was allowed. ..."
For anthologies, collections of short stories, and omnibus books, the original publication date is the date of the last published work (you can't have an original publication date that is earlier than the publish date of one of the components).
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I rummaged through the library's sale bin this morning and bought this--The Extraordinary Cases of Sherlock Holmes. This particular collection was published in 1988, but it lists when each story originally was published. If I added the pages of the ones that qualified for the 1905-1916 slot and got a workable page number, could I use that as an option? Or would I put it in the 1977-1988 slot with all the pages?
--Leigh of the luxurious drive-thru library that had to go inside to shop :)