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message 1: by Lina (last edited Nov 08, 2011 02:44AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lina | 5563 comments This topic is open for discussion of No Rest for the Wicked by Kresley Cole. EXPECT SPOILERS!

No Rest for the Wicked (Immortals After Dark, #3) by Kresley Cole

Goodreads Synopsis:
A Vampire soldier weary of life . . .
Centuries ago, Sebastian Wroth was turned into a vampire -- a nightmare in his mind -- against his will. Burdened with hatred and alone for ages, he sees little reason to live. Until an exquisite, fey creature comes to kill him, inadvertently saving him instead.
A Valkyrie assassin dispatched to destroy him . . .
When Kaderin the Cold Hearted lost her two beloved sisters to a vampire attack long ago, a benevolent force deadened her sorrow -- accidentally extinguishing all of her emotions. Yet whenever she encounters Sebastian, her feelings -- particularly lust -- emerge multiplied. For the first time, she's unable to complete a kill.
Become competitors in a legendary hunt.
The prize of the month-long contest is powerful enough to change history, and Kaderin will do anything to win it for her sisters. Wanting only to win her, forever, Sebastian competes as well, taking every opportunity -- as they travel to ancient tombs and through catacombs, seeking relics around the world -- to use her new feelings to seduce her. But when forced to choose between the vampire she's falling for and reuniting her family, how can Kaderin live without either?

Please note this is the THIRD in the series. The first 2 are:
The Warlord Wants Forever (Immortals After Dark, #1) by Kresley Cole A Hunger Like No Other (Immortals After Dark, #2) by Kresley Cole



Date Chapters PPDQs*
November 1 Prologue – Chp. 4 CaroB
November 2 Chp. 5 – Chp. 9 Susan
November 3 Chp. 10 – Chp. 14 Lisa Kay
November 4 Chp. 15 – Chp. 19 Susan
November 5 Chp. 20 – Chp. 24 CaroB
November 6 Chp. 25 – Chp. 29 CaroB
November 7 Chp. 30 – Chp. 34 Lisa Kay
November 8 Chp. 35 – Chp. 39 Lisa Kay
November 9 Chp. 40 – Chp. 42 Susan

*PPDQs = Person Posting Discussion Questions

Participants so far:
Lisa Kay
CaroB
willaful
Susan
Cheryl


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Lina | 5563 comments Qs for prologue to chapter 4

1. No way! What a start, he was turned against his will by his own brother! Thoughts? How does this change the way you see Nikolai?

2. We got some of Kaderin's back story. Did it read to you like she blamed herself for her sisters deaths?

3. Sebastian is such a teddy bear, definitely not the norm when it comes to romance heroes and their sexual experience. Does this bother you? Duo you like it?

4. Do you think Kaderin was more surprised that she could feel lust or that she was a vampire bride?

5. Umm. .. that scene on the floor.. . Hot or flat?

6. Why is Nikolai only just now looking for Sebastian?

Questions for Chapters 5 - 9

7. After reading about how Kaderin figured she'd go back and find Sebastian when she was ready, did you think to yourself "you may not be able to if Nikolai finds Sebastian first and they put it all together"?

8. Why do you think Regin is dodging Kaderin's questions when they spoke? Do you think Kaderin's feelings were hurt by not being invited to Emma's wedding?

9. Were you surprised to see Bowen? What do you think the prize is for winning the Hie? And why don't the Lycae like witches?

10. Did it surprise you that Sebastian could trace directly to Kaderin's location without having been there before?

11. Are you enjoying the humor in this, so far? - the trolls giving a play-by-play of Sebastian and Kaderin and Kaderin thinking the nymphs were hookers?

12. What did you think of the fight between Bowen and Sebastian?

13. Why was Kaderin shocked that Sebastian traced with her?

Questions for Chapters 10 – 14

14. Kaderin is wishing Sebastian had never seen Riora? Sounds like the beginnings of jealousy to me. But he only had eyes for her. I like a hero in pursuit, but I especially like one without a roving eye. But is this realistic, considering Riora is a Goddess? Comments?

15. What do you think of the Hie rules? No outright killing until the final round ? Whoa.

16. Sebastian wants to win the grand prize and give it to Kaderin. Did you find it interesting that Sebastian didn’t realize the implications of Thrane’s Key for his own family? Is this because he doesn’t really believe time-travel is possible, or has lust/love clouded his brain?

17. Uh oh, I spoke too soon. At the end of Chapter 11, Sebastian pledges his sword to Riora! Knowing what little you do of vain her personality, will this give him an advantage in the Hie?

18. Why did Riora give Kaderin the hint about the blade of the blind mystic Honorius? Why did she agree to delay Sebastian and give her a day’s head start if he is her knight?

19. Do you like the dialogue between Regin and Kaderin? Assuming you’ve never been to a Russian Ice Station, in the Antarctica or elsewhere, did Cole give you a good sense of the scene?

20. Okay, I’m stumped, and admit I was wrong about Sebastian being able to trace to Katja because she is his bride. How is Sebastian tracing willy-nilly?

21. Well, Sebastian seems to be going about this the wrong way. Now he has pissed off Kaderin by helping Cindey and the kobold. And she’s turned violent. Not good. When will he learn?

Questions for chapters 15-19

22. So Regin met Sebastian. Not exactly under the best circumstances, was it? And it wasn't until he left that Kaderin attempted to explain anything about him to Regin. Why do you think she's trying to ignore what they have? Is she really against him being a vamp or is it something else?

23. What'd you think of the reunion between Nikolai and Sebastian? Will they ever get along again?

24. What a way to be woken up! Comments?

25. Personally, I thought the sword fight was hot...what an active type of foreplay ;) And then, he bit her. Do you think Kaderin might have been having a change of heart about him before his teeth grazed her neck?

26. Now that Bastian (I love that she calls him that LOL) has Kaderin's memories, do you think he'll fall in love with her since he may come to understand her more?

Questions for Chapters 20- 29

27. Is there a better way to get to know someone than to walk a mile in their shoes? And isn't that what these vamps do when they drink from someone, night after night dreaming their memories? This defitintely helps the "binding" process for Sebastian and Kaderin, yet it's not actually part of the blooding... in which no actual blood is involved. Does that seem strange to anyone else?

28. Tricky, tricky Bowen to bring out the diamond necklace at the perfect moment. He's really getting quite ruthless. And yet all this does is make me want to read his story more. What about you? Are his actions turning you off?

29. Why doesn't Sebastian even consider joining the Forebears?

30. Will knowing that Myst cleared the way by marrying a vampire soften Kaderin's objections a little? What did you think of the hot and heavy when the dragons were approaching? It looks like Sebastian's learning, I liked the bargains, first for the kiss and then for " a night of touching" :-D

31. Bowen has now been cursed at a time he needs his regenerative powers the most. And he kept staring at the witch Mariketa in Riora's temple. What is the deal with him and the witch? What will he do if he doesn't wint the grand prize and go back in time to stop his mate from dying?

32.OMG!! What did you think of Nix's prediction? Do you think there's any way for her to avoid her fate? Do you think Sebastian will be able to save her?

33. As for Chapter 24, *fanning myself* all I can say is “FINALLY!”

34. What is Sebastian's hang-up with his size about?

35. I enjoyed reading their discussion over the possibilites of time travel. It shows they have more in common than fate and chemistry. Sebastian's reaction to her theories (and to the fact that she's informed) was classic. Comments?

36. We still don't really know why Sebastian is able to trace to a person when no other Vampire can. Now that we're further along in the story, what are your theories?

37. Sebastian was NOT happy with Kaderin at the club in Colombia. Just when you think there's hope for them, this happens! They both reacted badly, but can you really blame Sebastian for issuing the ultimatum? Were you surprised with Gamboa's reaction to having Kaderin in the limo?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments I'm in!


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willaful I have this and need to catch up with the series, so I'm game. When do we start, any time?


Debbie (halfpint66) | 138 comments I'm on book #11 of this series right now. Dreams Of A Dark Warrior.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Me too, Debbie. But, I wanted to go back to the beginning.

Willa, I think CaroB is planning this for November as I have seen her work it into a November challenge.


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments I'm in :)


Lina | 5563 comments Thanks Lisa Kay :-)

Debbie, feel free to pop in and giggle at our predictions of what will happen in the book as we go :-)

When in November would you ladies like to start this?
Also, I've noticed there is a Prologue and 42 Chapters. Will 4-5 chapters a day be too much/ ok?


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments 4-5 chapters a day sounds fine and we can start this whenever.


message 10: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (last edited Oct 23, 2011 09:12AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Sounds good, CaroB. I think I'm in most of your "buddy read" groups - so whatever you schedule will probably work for me too.


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments I'll do the Nov 2, ch 5-9 questions :)


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Lina | 5563 comments Thanks Susan!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Nov. 2nd? Is this starting the 11th or the 1st?


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willaful I believe the 11 refers to the year. European style, day/month/year. Much more logical, really.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Well, duh! Where was my head? Thanks, Willa.


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Lina | 5563 comments OMG, sorry for the confusion. That's the way we do the date (dd/mm/yy) in Australia, and I did it on autopilot. I'll change it to make the year clearer.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments My fault, CaroB; I was skim reading and my eye caught the Nov. and the 11 that followed.


Cheryl (cawils_99) I really enjoyed the A Hunger Like No Other and would love to join in this buddy read.


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Lina | 5563 comments Lovely, Cheryl! Are you ok with the 1st Nov for a start date?


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Lina | 5563 comments Lisa Kay, hope you don't mind, I stole your "Participants so far" idea from another Buddy-read.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Nope, don't mind at all, CaroB. It makes my little brain happy to see it all organized. (One Virgo to another. ☺) Of course, this means I get to steal one of your ideas. **hee hee**


Cheryl (cawils_99) November 1st works for me. Thanks


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willaful Looking forward to starting this tomorrow! I actually DNF'd it a long time ago, but am hoping a buddy read will encourage me to enjoy it more this go around.


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Michelle Gilmore | 3220 comments willaful wrote: "Looking forward to starting this tomorrow! I actually DNF'd it a long time ago, but am hoping a buddy read will encourage me to enjoy it more this go around."

I've only read the first 4 books in the IAD series, and I think I enjoyed this one the most so far. If you guys keep reading the series, I'll jump in on book 5.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments boo 5? You still have Halloween on the brain, ✿Michelle✿!


Michelle Gilmore | 3220 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "boo 5? You still have Halloween on the brain, ✿Michelle✿!"

LOL!!


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Michelle Gilmore | 3220 comments I must be coming down from sugar/ caffeine high. LOL!!!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments LOL! **Lisa Kay snorts** I just had some more sugar - and I'm not used to it. I'll be up all night!


Michelle Gilmore | 3220 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "LOL! **Lisa Kay snorts** I just had some more sugar - and I'm not used to it. I'll be up all night!"

LOL!!!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Fax me some of those cup cakes, ✿M✿! That should send me over the edge.


Michelle Gilmore | 3220 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "Fax me some of those cup cakes, ✿M✿! That should send me over the age."

If they come out light and fluffy, or flat and crispy, I'm going to take a picture to post in the dessert challenge thread. I'll share my cooking shame/ success with the group the best way I can, LOL!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Sounds good to me!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments See, I typed "age" instead of "edge." LOL! Too much sugar. It is hard to find that balance when you mainline sugar.


Michelle Gilmore | 3220 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "See, I typed "age" instead of "edge." LOL! Too much sugar. It is hard to find that balance when you mainline sugar."

LOL! Well, tonight was the night to indulge if you ask me.


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Lina | 5563 comments Ladies, I got thrown off by the time difference. First lot of questions will be posted soon.


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments That's fine, CaroB. I need to read heehee


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments I know CaroB hasn't posted the questions yet, but let me just say that even though I am usually an alpha male kinda girl; shy, self-depreciating Sebastian is quickly worming his way into my heart.


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Lina | 5563 comments Using my phone, please forgive formatting. Too lazy to get out of bed to turn the computer on, lol.

CaroB's Qs for prologue to chapter 4

1. No way! What a start, he was turned against his will by his own brother! Thoughts? How does this change the way you see Nikolai?

2. We got some of Kaderin's back story. Did it read to you like she blamed herself for her sisters deaths?

3. Sebastian is such a teddy bear, definitely not the norm when it comes to romance heroes and their sexual experience. Does this bother you? Duo you like it?

4. Do you think Kaderin was more surprised that she could feel lust or that she was a vampire bride?

5. Umm. .. that scene on the floor.. . Hot or flat?

6. Why is Nikolai only just now looking for Sebastian?



message 39: by willaful (last edited Nov 02, 2011 09:51AM) (new)

willaful 1. No way! What a start, he was turned against his will by his own brother! Thoughts? How does this change the way you see Nikolai?

I don't think it does much -- he was a Warlord so undoubtedly had a ruthless side... and he was faced with losing his entire family, which can make anyone a little crazy. I would like to see some resolution between them in this book, though. It would be hard thing to forgive, for sure.


2. We got some of Kaderin's back story. Did it read to you like she blamed herself for her sisters deaths?

I would say definitely. It wasn't just the pain she couldn't live with, but the guilt. She has to kill vampires to make up for the one she showed mercy to.

3. Sebastian is such a teddy bear, definitely not the norm when it comes to romance heroes and their sexual experience. Does this bother you? Duo you like it?

I like it so far. I think I might get annoyed if the book keeps dwelling on it.

4. Do you think Kaderin was more surprised that she could feel lust or that she was a vampire bride?

Doesn't seem like she could be that surprised, considering Myst's experiences as a multiple-blooder. (And wth is up with that, anyway? Kind of picks a hole in the whole "fated mate" dealie.) She seems to still be somewhat in denial about being his Bride, but hard to deny all the feelings!

5. Umm. .. that scene on the floor.. . Hot or flat?

Worked okay for me. ;-)

6. Why is Nikolai only just now looking for Sebastian?

Perhaps concentrating less on his mission and more on a relationship awoke feelings he'd surpressed and made him yearn for his family again?


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments I'm not copying the questions cause I'm on my iPhone and it never works right lol

1. I think Nicholai changed Sebastian with the best of intentions. I imagine he figured sebastian would eventually be glad he was still alive and would get over whatever resentment there was for changing him against his will. And no, it doesn't really change my view of Nicholai.

2. Yes , to me it seems like she blames herself and has been trying to make amends ever since.

3. As I said before, I'm kinda liking he's not this alpha male who has bedded half the females in the lore. I almost want to smack Kaderin for leaving him...he was this close *pinches fingers together* to getting what he always wanted.

4. I think Kaderin was more shocked that she wasfeeling something than that she was his Bride.

5. The floor was hot! I'm just surprised it happened so quickly.

6. I honestly don't know why Nicholai is just now waiting to find his brothers. Maybe he's looked before but really didn't know whereto look and now that he has access to someone who can see the future, he can better pinpoint where Sebastian is.


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willaful Susan (susayq) wrote: "he can better pinpoint where Sebastian is. "

Now that I thought odd... he was right back there in their old castle, why didn't Nikolai ever look for him there? And wasn't Nikolai there too in TWWF, or am I confused? (Very likely, I tend to miss those kinds of details.)


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments Willaful, I thought the same thing- weren't they both in TWWF. I thought they were. Was it a different brother? I'm gonna have to go back and look lol


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willaful It was Murdoch in TWWF, but I thought the castle was the same.


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments Omg! I'm reading this and just came to the realization that Sebastian is the hot nerdy hero!!! :D


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Lisa Kay’s As to CaroB's Qs for Prologue to Chapter 4

1. No way! What a start, he was turned against his will by his own brother! Thoughts? How does this change the way you see Nikolai?
I know! Terrible thing to do, to make a life decision for someone against their will. It wasn’t like he was unconscious, he was adamant in his “No!”

2. We got some of Kaderin's back story. Did it read to you like she blamed herself for her sisters’ deaths?
I knew a set of triplets growing up (back in the day when they weren’t produced by fertility clinics) and they were very close. So, yes, I think she feels very guilty for Dasha & Rika’s deaths. And, I can understand why she would want to show vamps any mercy.

3. Sebastian is such a teddy bear, definitely not the norm when it comes to romance heroes and their sexual experience. Does this bother you? Do you like it?
Nope. Love the bête heroes. I also like that Cole has made the Forbearers less knowable about the Lore than the other creatures within it. This runs throughout the books and makes it interesting as they try to gather info.


4. Do you think Kaderin was more surprised that she could feel lust or that she was a vampire bride?
I think she was more surprised.

5. Umm... that scene on the floor... Hot or flat?
H.O.T. Unusual for me to like a scene like that so early in a book, but it worked for me.

6. Why is Nikolai only just now looking for Sebastian?
I know. And, yeah, I think it is the same castle. Weird. Maybe he was worried that he wouldn’t forgive him. But, what? Does he now think 300 years is enough time/distance?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments @ Willa

#1 – I agree. Pretty hard to forgive.

#2 – True. But I don’t think there will ever be enough vampire deaths for her.

#3 – Good point. Me too.

#4 – LOL!

#5 – ☺

#6 – Oh, I like that explaination.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments @ Susan

#1 – True, Nikolai changed his brothers with the best of intentions… and I’ll even grant that he was young. But, still…

#3 – Something was pinched.

#4 – Yes, her feeling overwhelmed her.

#6 – Oh, good point about Nix’s availability.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Susan (susayq) wrote: "Omg! I'm reading this and just came to the realization that Sebastian is the hot nerdy hero!!! :D"

:D


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Lina | 5563 comments CaroB's Qs for prologue to chapter 4

1. No way! What a start, he was turned against his will by his own brother! Thoughts? How does this change the way you see Nikolai? I must admit to being disappointed that Nikolai would change someone against their will, even knowing he did it with the best of intentions. I’m curious to know how Sebastian has been surviving though, hating what he is. If he’d really wanted to die, wouldn’t he have just starved himself?… hmm…

2. We got some of Kaderin's back story. Did it read to you like she blamed herself for her sisters deaths? Yeah, I think she’s bent on revenge on all vampires for the actions of one, and to assuage her guilt.

3. Sebastian is such a teddy bear, definitely not the norm when it comes to romance heroes and their sexual experience. Does this bother you? Do you like it? I think it is a fantastic welcome change! Even when he had the internal dialogue “what is happening to me” I was thinking, woohoo! We have a sensitive vampire that doesn’t sparkle :-) And he can make the heroine come with their clothes on was a bonus ;-)

4. Do you think Kaderin was more surprised that she could feel lust or that she was a vampire bride?

5. Umm… that scene on the floor.. . Hot or flat? lol, my first thought was “Already???” But at least they kept their clothes on :-) Definitely not flat.

6. Why is Nikolai only just now looking for Sebastian? I got the feeling he’s been looking for him for a while but it’s only now things are coming together…


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Susan (susayq ~) (susayq) | 6062 comments Questions for Chapters 5 - 9

7. After reading about how Kaderin figured she'd go back and find Sebastian when she was ready, did you think to yourself "you may not be able to if Nikolai finds Sebastian first and they put it all together"?

8. Why do you think Regin is dodging Kaderin's questions when they spoke? Do you think Kaderin's feelings were hurt by not being invited to Emma's wedding?

9. Were you surprised to see Bowen? What do you think the prize is for winning the Hie? And why don't the Lycae like witches?

10. Did it surprise you that Sebastian could trace directly to Kaderin's location without having been there before?

11. Are you enjoying the humor in this, so far? - the trolls giving a play-by-play of Sebastian and Kaderin and Kaderin thinking the nymphs were hookers?

12. What did you think of the fight between Bowen and Sebastian?

13. Why was Kaderin shocked that Sebastian traced with her?



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