How did Bella and Edward create a baby?

[Monisa]

Valerie wrote: "Did you really have to ask????????????"

good question?????y dont these guys get out of this birth stuff n alllll!...pathetic!

[♥Glitter in the Air♥]

Woops I am sorry it seems that your caps lock has been left one, why don't you fix that?

Now that we can both me mature about this...oh wait never mind.

What did you think we were going to be talking about under a discussion labeled "How did Bella and Edward have a baby?" Unicorns and butterflies? I mean really, you had to know things were going to be mentioned like Sperm and period seeing that both are necessary to reproduce. Now if you can't handle such things you should leave the discussion...and not leave childish comments.

[Maggie]

Monisa wrote: "EWWW!! WHAT A WEIRD QUESTION...I DONT LIKE ALL THIS PERIOD N SPERM STUFF.....WHAT THE HELL...ARE U ALL TALKING ABOUT....AREN'T YOU GUYS ASHAMED OF HAVING A DISCUSSION LIKE THISSSSSS!....REALLY PATH..."

dude, seriously, if youre too immature to have a civil talk about this, and think its SOOO nasty, heres an idea, GET OFF THE DISCUSSION. Why would we be ashamed of talking about something that pretty much everyone in the world knows about? pretty sure you learn about sex in middle school, so grow up. kthx

[Sara]

Monisa wrote: "EWWW!! WHAT A WEIRD QUESTION...I DONT LIKE ALL THIS PERIOD N SPERM STUFF.....WHAT THE HELL...ARE U ALL TALKING ABOUT....AREN'T YOU GUYS ASHAMED OF HAVING A DISCUSSION LIKE THISSSSSS!....REALLY PATH..."

Seriously?! How old are you? 5?
It's not like we are talking about blow jobs or other kinky stuff...
Words like 'sperm' and 'erection' and 'period' are technical terms also used at school while teaching/learning sexual education or sexual reproduction. And they do it at the age of 13!
Either you've studied with nuns and grown up in a church, or I really don't know how words like these might gross you out or make you so uncomfortable...

[[deleted user]]

Haha. wowwwww. This started as a conversation about twilight. And now...we've been downgraded to discussing the birds & the bees. My theory is that middle schoolers can officially pervert any conversation you give us.

[[deleted user]]

Malaina wrote: "Because he changes her in to a vampire if you read the book so that is how she has her baby"

Well yeah i know that. I read the books. im just sayin...

[Diane]

~Silence, and the End~ wrote: "...stopped reading your paragraph after that because I figured the rest could be picked apart and disproved so it wasn't worth my time. ."
If you had read after that, you might have read this:
However, they don't produce tears because tears exist to protect the eye from damage, and nothing is going to be able to scratch a vampire's eye.
Also, Vampires can't cry because it is a human impulse to cry when sad.

I respect your decision to deem it not worth your time, but others don't think the same way.

[Nora]

i actually wondered about his because you need to be alive to have sper..... but i cant believe were actually having a convorsation about this!

[[deleted user]]

Thats what im sayin!

[Nurlely]

Adria wrote: "Well as far as I know, men keep producing sperm forever. Its women who have bodies that stop being able to produce eggs with menopause. And depending on which vampire theory you go with, some vampires do have blood ( e.g. The Sookie Stackhouse novels). So I guess it all depends. "

I read Sookie Stackhouse series. Excellent vampires story. The vamps can cry but they can not have children. Maybe they produce sperms, or it would be a total mess for the intercourse, but most likely dead sperms.

In Twilight, the female vampires can not have children because their bodies are dead, so the uterus will not adjust itself to the pregnancy progress.

I agree with Amanda.
Amanda wrote: "I think it's pretty obvious that Meyer was just writing a romance novel and then later realized that there were plot holes about making a baby..after people pointed them out to her. She then made up some nonsensical crap to fill the plot holes. But that aforementioned nonsensical crap is so thin as to be laughable. "

[Nurlely]

Monisa wrote: "EWWW!! WHAT A WEIRD QUESTION...I DONT LIKE ALL THIS PERIOD N SPERM STUFF.....WHAT THE HELL...ARE U ALL TALKING ABOUT....AREN'T YOU GUYS ASHAMED OF HAVING A DISCUSSION LIKE THISSSSSS!....REALLY PATH..."

I think you forgot for a while that the subject is about creating a baby. How do you think it happens? No stork is involved during the process...

[Darrah]

if u dnt want to read it then dont. and i think that this is just a book and maybe edward can still fuck a girl and get them pregos

[Kelsey]

heyy everyone is entitled to his or her own opionion but we dont need to gang up on other people who think differently lets keep the peace and have nice conversations, different opionions is what makes the world interesting ok yall

[Nurlely]

Kelsey wrote: "heyy everyone is entitled to his or her own opionion but we dont need to gang up on other people who think differently lets keep the peace and have nice conversations, different opionions is what ..."

Who were you referring to? Before the world, it is best to make this page interesting. And you can do it telling me (us?) who you were commenting to...

[Kelsey]

so u would be mean to people and gang up on them just to make it interesting to the world and being mean to people who think differently how is that interesting its not talking about books at all when people are doing that

[Nurlely]

Kelsey wrote: "so u would be mean to people and gang up on them just to make it interesting to the world and being mean to people who think differently how is that interesting its not talking about books at all..."

And did you talk about book when you submitted the above comment?

Monisa was disagreeing with us talking about something related to the topic. If she was embarrassed about the content, it was her business, but telling us not to talk about that is absurd.

[Mandy]

The fact that Bella actually had a baby from Edward is too stupid for words. Stephenie's explanation got plucked out of the air (we already knew she was imaginative) but is based on nothing. Based on the same crap that vampires' skins sparkle.

I actually did like this turn in the book, but you're not supposed to think about it. Because I still think that vampires can't have an erection either, but there are many books/shows in which this *does* happen (In 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer Buffy had sex with Angel and Spike, both vampires) so there's probably some lame explanation for it. I'm not buying the poison taking over the place of blood. Yet I *am* buying the fact vampires sorta exist, so no need to worry myself about the rest I guess... ;)
( I don't mean I believe vamps actually exist, but in books and movies they can.)

[Nurlely]

SM had to create some reasons behind her vampire world. They have no tears so they do not have blood circulation. But they have sort of fluid, some venom based fluid.

I think the more I read about the reasons, the more I laugh. They are just so awfully messy.

SM should have written romance novel instead of creating some new kind of vampires and struggled with lots of questions later.

[Nurlely]

Kali wrote: "Though, of course, this doesn't explain why female vampires can't become pregnant by vampires. Unless, vampiric cervixes need to be bitten through (ouch!) and neither vampire nor human sperm is strong enough. Has no one ever experimented with vampire IVF?
"

According to the Twilight 'officials', female vampires can not have babies because their bodies are dead, so the womb can not grow. So technically their bodies will remain the same, it is impossible to grow any babies inside their wombs.

The officials did not mention anything of how the venom based fluid work its way through the dead body of a vampire. Perhaps just like other weird stuff in Twilight. Through Magic!

[Sara]

Mmmmm... I was thinking... If a female vampire is technically DEAD and her body doesn't change... Theoretically also a male vampire body can't change and... well, where the hell comes from the sperm??? This is illogical!
But, long time ago, I think I read that probably Edward was a kind of Incubus.. So, maybe Incubus are a little different from normal vampires, and they can get a woman pregnant. A Succubus (the female version of an Incubus) uses to seduce men (humans) to feed off their energy, but cannot reproduce, can't get pregnant (don't ask me why, it's fantasy)... So, Incubus and Succubus have to reproduce somehow! That's the way. Incubus have sperm and get pregnant a human female. And there you have an Incubus or a Succubus as result!
So, MAYBE, Edward is a kind of Incubus and has sperm and can get a human woman pregnant...

Just sorry for the absurdity of all that! Hahahah! But I was just thinking.. :P

[Sabine]

I did finish the whole series but I think she kind of lost the plot after the second book...

[Maggie]

Yeah, i apologize for putting Twilight, its in Breaking Dawn. God forbid someone makes a mistake, we are humans you know, haha

[[deleted user]]

I agree with Sabine when she said that Meyer lost the plot after the second book. which is really a shame because the idea is actually very good, and had the potential to be very amazing. and also, you gotta give Meyer some credit. I mean, she began the whole love-triangle fad. now, along with the twilight series, theres Vampire Academy, Hunger Games, and many more...

[Nurlely]

Sara wrote: "Mmmmm... I was thinking... If a female vampire is technically DEAD and her body doesn't change... Theoretically also a male vampire body can't change and... well, where the hell comes from the sper..."

I like the Incubus idea, but as far as I remember (from my reading), Incubus is demon not vampire.

[Nurlely]

Kali wrote: "I know, but I reject that explanation on the grounds that it is silly. If female vamps are dead, male vamps are dead."

I laughed at the idea too. It is totally absurd and funny to have a female vampire who probably has eggs (since the male has sperms), but due to the frozen body, the eggs can not grow. How the heck the sperms survive the cold temperature?

[Alexandra]

Monisa wrote: "EWWW!! WHAT A WEIRD QUESTION...I DONT LIKE ALL THIS PERIOD N SPERM STUFF.....WHAT THE HELL...ARE U ALL TALKING ABOUT....AREN'T YOU GUYS ASHAMED OF HAVING A DISCUSSION LIKE THISSSSSS!....REALLY PATH..."

rofl!!!!

[Mandy]

Perhaps they, somehow, became able to breed with humans later; perhaps vampiric sperm has the ability to vamp the egg, if you follow me, changing it into a form that they can mate with, and perhaps it doesn't (can't?) happen the other way. That explanation does sort-of make sense; the vampiric sperm would find it easier to get through a human's cervix and into the egg than human sperm would find getting through a vampiric cervix, and into a vampire egg (I imnagine they'd be tough, like Bella's womb became). Though, of course, this doesn't explain why female vampires can't become pregnant by vampires. Unless, vampiric cervixes need to be bitten through (ouch!) and neither vampire nor human sperm is strong enough. Has no one ever experimented with vampire IVF?

Kali that's an interesting theory...! That vamp sperm kinda changes into little bloodthirsty sperm. Which makes *me* think it'll indeed chew/suck its way through the womb. Which can't be a good thing. I doubt actually it even *reaches* the womb, all the blood its encountering on the way must have it all satitsfied, no point going on to whatever it was it was doing ;)

We should make this into an educational movie you guys :P

[Diane]

But they're not regular sperms. They're vampire sperms! LOL.

The whole female vampires not being able to reproduce sorta makes sense in a way; I've never heard of succubi getting pregnant.

[Sara]

Nurlely wrote: "I like the Incubus idea, but as far as I remember (from my reading), Incubus is demon not vampire"

Yes, I know, even though in L.K. Hamilton's books we see Jean Claude is a vampire but also a sort of Incubus too... Maybe Edward is neither a normal vampire nor a demon... He is a vampire but with some Incubus peculiarities too...

Anyway, it was a thought... just my fantasy running like crazy as usual xD

[Mandy]

LOL Kali... I wondered about that myself... Like having a friggin' icile shoved inside of you while you're outside in the snow... :O

Maybe, *just* maybe it's nice during a looong, hot summer, otherwise? No way, Hosé!

[Darina]

Monisa, no need to read that if you don't find it amusing. I personally found the theory about the "hard ones" hilarious. And I agree with Amanda that the novel's plot has holes you can drive a truck through. This one is the biggest.

[Kirby]

Nurlely wrote: "Icantreadwhyamihere wrote: "i dont think it is actually marble that their skin is made of..... "

Twilight vamp' skin is actually marble stone. Edward's face cracked when it hit the floor during hi..."

that was the movie, not the book. in the book, it's just a metaphor that bella uses to describe edward's skin.

[Stephanie]

It's science fiction/fantasy, who cares. By the way, in the Underworld movie the vampires have offspring all the time so its for entertainment.

[Nurlely]

Kirby wrote: "that was the movie, not the book. in the book, it's just a metaphor that bella uses to describe edward's skin. "

Not only Edward, but vampires in general.
Quote:
No, Jake. I'm so… so relieved. I thought he was going to find me—I've been waiting for him every
night, just hoping that he'd stop with me and leave Charlie alone. I've been so frightened, Jacob… But
how? He was a vampire! How did you kill him? He was so strong, so hard, like marble…

[Nurlely]

Stephanie wrote: "It's science fiction/fantasy, who cares. By the way, in the Underworld movie the vampires have offspring all the time so its for entertainment."

Underworld? Which vampires have offspring?

[Olivia]

as carlise said to edward that he could still have sex with bella and it is safe but nor edward or carlise new that bella would get preagnut and even though carlise is a doctor he still doesnt know that much about vampires

its all in the twilight saga breaking dwan book, book one bella chapter 7. unexpected pg# 118 carlise explaines it all

[Nurlely]

Carlisle is one of the characters in Twilight series. The explanation, the weird and weird explanation was made by the Twilight officials, including Stephenie Meyer herself.

If SM had to go in circle for her explanation, why would one of her character be able to do the explanation?

[Kirby]

Nurlely wrote: "Kirby wrote: "that was the movie, not the book. in the book, it's just a metaphor that bella uses to describe edward's skin. "

Not only Edward, but vampires in general.
Quote:
No, Jake. I'm so… so..."

ok, fine, vampires in general...but it was still a metaphor.

[Nurlely]

Kirby wrote: "ok, fine, vampires in general...but it was still a metaphor."

Sure. Bella asked Jacob that question because she thought of the hard, marble stuff as a methapor, not because she was 'amazed' that Jacob could actually do that. I bet she was simply faking her amazement...

[Kirby]

Nurlely wrote: "Kirby wrote: "ok, fine, vampires in general...but it was still a metaphor."

Sure. Bella asked Jacob that question because she thought of the hard, marble stuff as a methapor, not because she was '..."

I'm a little confused by your sarcasm here- are you really arguing that the vampires are actually made of marble? I believe that you undercut your own argument by including the quote- it says "LIKE marble." now, I may be confusing simile and metaphor here, but I am sure that she is NOT saying that vampire skin is LITERALLY made of marble. and how do you reach the conclusion that she couldn't be amazed that they killed laurent just b/c she used a metaphor/simile to describe the hardness of his skin?

[Nurlely]

Kirby wrote: "I'm a little confused by your sarcasm here- are you really arguing that the vampires are actually made of marble? I believe that you undercut your own argument by including the quote- it says "LIKE marble." now, I may be confusing simile and metaphor here"

I apologise if my comment somehow offended you. I was just surprise of why you are insisting that the vampire' skin being marble stone hard is simply metaphor?

That is why Twilight's fantasy is a mess. One fact contradicts the other. Why was Bella amazed by the fact that Jacob could beat a vampire, since it was a bit impossible to kill them, considering their hard as marble skin? Was that said because Bella considered the marble skin as the truth or more as a metaphor? She should have not been that surprised then if it was simply metaphor. I did not say the vampire skin is made of marble, but it is as strong and stiff as marble.

The marble stone skin is only one among all the weird things in Twilight fantasy. How did Bella manage to kiss such frozen marble stone lips without getting frostbite?

[Claudine]

And this discussion just goes to prove that authors wanting to make their mark shouldn't mess with proven formulas. The plotline throughout the novels is so riddled with holes and inconsistencies that they don't make sense. Give me Sunshine and Dracula any day over the world Stephanie Meyer created.

[Elizabeth]

Edwards sperm defrosted inside of Bella, and boom....baby. Its almost like having an internal sperm bank, but its free!

[Elizabeth]

PS ~ Monisa really needs to get over it. You read all these comments just to complain, really!! They discuss periods, sperm and stuff in the 6th grade now. If your not pass that you need to ask your parents permission before entering some of these discussions.

[[Coco]]

lol some people are picking this apart too much. Meyer obviously didn't think about it much while she was writing it. She probably didn't realize that it wasn't really possible until fans started pointing it out to her. So she made up some sort of explanation. That's probably how it went....

[Alex]

FIRST of all does it matter he's a vampire does he and his hole exsistence excist ........NO!NO!NO!!!! N-O so it doesnt matter but is somthing to wonder about

[Hayley]

Why do you even want to ask this question?!?

[Jacqui]

When a mummy and a daddy love each other very much... lol

[Will]

Storks.

[Rachel]

I think it's safe to say that this book doesn't contain real life day-to-day issues. You guys are just ruining the book for yourselves. "How Did Bella and Edward create a baby?" They had sex. Plain and simple. Stephenie Meyer is an amazing author....Not my favorite, but she still wrote an awesome series. A series that I truly adore.