Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
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Who thinks that Cho was always kind of a jerk?
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Oct 01, 2011 05:49PM
Reading the parts in the books about Cho always makes me feel like smacking her. (Okay, so I would never really smack a person for just being annoying in general, but you get the point.)She's just such a primadonna and so touchy. Grr.
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I can't say she bothered me too much. I mean, she didn't exactly have the happiest time, what with, you know, Cedric dying and all. I think she has the right to be a little touchy.
I understand the postition she's in. I mean, he boyfriend who she was in love with died and it's a very hard thing to deal with. I just think that she could have been a little more understanding to Harry. He was there to watch Cedric die.
Of course she could have been more understanding. But I find it hard to dislike her for it when she was obviously upset herself.
I don't want to dislike her either. I don't really like her, but it's not like I hate her character or something. I'm neutral, I guess. Sometimes I feel really bad for her, and then others she is just being so bleh. (Couldn't think of what word I wanted to say there.)
I agree that she isn't exactly the most interesting character in the series, and she isn't someone I'd call myself a dedicated fan of. I just don't really like it when people make out she was some kind of terrible person for not being totally selfless. That's not against you specifically. She's just a character that I think is sometimes unfairly villainised, or at least made to seem worse than she really is. Sorry, I'm kind of dragging this out, aren't I?
That's okay. :) I agree with you on the fact that she is made out to be kind of a bad person. I guess if the books were from her point of view, I'd think that Harry was the bad guy in this situation.
By the way, is your picture Marceline?
I'm glad we can pretty much agree then. I don't really want to get in some big argument over the goodness of Cho Chang, honestly. And yup, it's Marceline.
I'm neutral about her. I definitely like Ginny more, though.
I hate how she gets so mad at Harry when they're on their date at Honeydukes just cuz he's talking about Hermione. And I also hate how her friend tattled on DA and she's just like "Oh, she made a mistake."Other than that, love Cho.
She's not perfect, but definitely not a villain either. Personally, I never liked her that much, but I don't really dislike her either.
Ohhh I HATE Cho. She is so annoying. I always hated her, especially when she'd get jealous of Hermione. SHES HERMIONE! Her and Harry are like SIBLINGS. Why should you be so suspicious?!!
she was definitely not my favorite character and in the 7th book she was all like "Oh, Harry blah blah blah..." and i honest to goodness threw the book against the wall every time she acted like that!!! i'm a violent child, OK??!!
No guy wants to be around/with girl who talks about her previous boyfriend when he is going/dating with her. Plus, she is overly emotional guys really don't like that.
She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago.
Lucy wrote: "She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago."Hmm, yeah, I know. It's so awful when somebody you're close to lost someone less than a year ago and they just won't shut about it. Gosh, how selfish of them, how could they still be grieving when you just want to enjoy your date?
Lily wrote: "Lucy wrote: "She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago."Hmm, yeah, I know. It's so awful when som..."
If she was grieving so badly she shouldn't have said, yes when Harry asked her out. Harry watched him get killed but you don't see him cry all the time and wanting to talk about over and over. Cho needed to get a hold of herself, grow up, and realize that people die and that if anybody deserved to cry it would be Harry himself who has experienced great losses throughout his life. Plus, all the dangerous shit he goes through every year.
Ricco wrote: "Lily wrote: "Lucy wrote: "She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago."Hmm, yeah, I know. It's so awf..."
Maybe she wanted to try and move on with her life? I hardly think it's fair to decide who 'deserves' to cry. Some people deal with things better than others, some people are more open about their feelings. Cho had every right to be upset.
Lily wrote: "Ricco wrote: "Lily wrote: "Lucy wrote: "She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago."Hmm, yeah, I k..."
She was in the wrong when she got all up set with Harry b/c he didn't want to talk about. Also, she should realize that no guy wants to be with girl who is crying over her former boyfriend 90% of the time no matter the reason. Cho only wanted to be with Harry b/c of the fame and attention it would bring her. I'm glad Harry ended up with Ginny; she is less emotional and she would have dated Harry regardless if he was the Chosen One or not unlike Cho.
Rico wrote: "Lily wrote: "Lucy wrote: "She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago."Hmm, yeah, I know. It's so awful when som..."
If she was grieving so badly she shouldn't have said yes..."
She had a right to grieve. And people need to feel like they don't need to avoid the world and never have fun just because they're sad. I know from experience that when you lose someone close to you, you need to grieve and cry, even when it's been a while, but you also need to be around people and have fun sometimes or you'll never get over it. And you need people who are willing to listen to you when you're sad. If Harry couldn't feel for Cho a little bit, she's lucky to not be with him.
Emma wrote: "Rico wrote: "Lily wrote: "Lucy wrote: "She is a bit of a stupid girl having not got over things and pressuring over people to help her get over something that happened ages ago."Hmm, yeah, I know..."
He did feel for her, but he didn't understand her sensitivity. But don't forget that HE was the one to see Cedric's death. Cho could at least step out of her shell to realize that there are tons of people pressuring him for information and that she could be considerate towards his feelings.
Larfmann wrote: "fck Cho."Why?
Larfmann wrote: "fck cho. She was always sooooo stupid. I hate her. so do all my friends."Yes, but why do you hate her?
Larfmann wrote: "fck cho. She was always so annoying. And she tried to make a move on harry when she offered to take him to ravenclaw tower, remember?"Just curious, do you always preface sentences with the fck cho, or is it just a thing you do when you talk about her?
are we talking about the time when cho n harry were on their date in hogsmead and harry got annoyed at her for crying over cedric? personally, i'm w/ those who think she has the right to be upset - we can't all smile and pretend everything's great 24/7. i, for one, was irritated by harry for not being more understanding.
I personally feel like she jerked Harry around, but she wasn't a bad person. Just a typical teenage girl. I mean, come on, at least she didn't turn out to be like Pansy and Crabbe and Goyle.
I still think that she could have been a little more understanding with Harry. I mean, he actually saw Cedric die, and Cho wanted him to feel bad for her. On the other hand, Cho really loved Cedric and it was definitely very hard for her to make sense of her conflicting feelings. She probably still loved Cedric, like Hermione said, but also had feelings for Harry. She wasn't a bad person deep down. She just could have been a little less self-absorbed and noticed that Harry's life wasn't so great either.Oh, and Larfmann? Who ever told you that cursing made your point come across stronger?
On the relationship: Neither Harry nor Cho did right one another. It was as much that they weren't understanding with one, but they really didn't even try to once things started going downhill(which I attribute their youth). But on the date, I believe Cho was completely in right. I mean, Harry was on a date with her not Hermione and many people believed that Harry and Hermione had a thing (even Ron). If a guy was on a date with me and he started talking about how he needs to meet with another a girl, especially after he had was already being a horrible date, I'd get pissed too.When she stood up for her friend, I actually thought that was cool on her part. No, it wasn't cool that the girl snitched, but still that was her friend and Hermione wasn't. So of course she was going to defend her. That shows that Cho's loyal. I would have though badly of her if just dissed the girl simply because she was with her "boyfriend".
Overall, I don't the audience really got a good look at that kind of girl Cho was. Rowling wrote her in a very biased way to make it easy for fans to dislike her character. One of the flaws of the series. But, still I think there a few things that point out that Cho is simply human and I'm a fan.
Larfmann wrote: "fck cho. Just a thing I do when cho is mentioned."You have sex when Cho is mentioned?
I hated her! Especially after I saw how she looked like on the movie... She seemed like such a self-centered snob and I did not understand what Harry saw in her.
Okayyyyy well we all know larfmann has issues..... I thought she was always just derangged and damaged, i mean shes been through a lot
Do you know her personally? (I don't ever curse and my point seems to get across fine...)
Rosie wrote: "Do you know her personally? (I don't ever curse and my point seems to get across fine...)"Lmfao
Maeve wrote: "On another note, in chinese, (and cho is obviously chinese) cho means disgusting or hideous."Wow.... Explains sooooooo much
Maeve wrote: "On another note, in chinese, (and cho is obviously chinese) cho means disgusting or hideous."Support for my hypothesis that Rowling wrote Cho is very biasedly.
Dani wrote: "Maeve wrote: "On another note, in chinese, (and cho is obviously chinese) cho means disgusting or hideous."Support for my hypothesis that Rowling wrote Cho is very biasedly."
I agree, but it obviously made sense, what with the books being from Harry's perspective for almost the whole series.
Though it would have been very nice to have had her redeemed somewhat, as people are still horribly unfair on her.
Rosie wrote: "Reading the parts in the books about Cho always makes me feel like smacking her. (Okay, so I would never really smack a person for just being annoying in general, but you get the point.)She's just ..."I agree wholeheartedly. Cho just rubbed me the wrong way from the very beginning, making me extremely frustrated. I mean, I like that Jo wrote Harry with an ethnic love interest (as was previously stated, Cho is obviously chinese) but she also wrote Cho in a way that made her clearly not Harry's optimal ultimate choice.
As for Dani's comment, I don't believe that Jo wrote Cho that biased. If you read the fourth book, she is kind to Harry throughout, not even making a spectacle when he falls over himself to ask her to the Yule Ball. She also joins Dumbledore's Army and continues to do so even after Harry and her don't work out romantically. She's heartbroken by the loss of Cedric, and you can't really blame her for that. Yet she stands up and fights with them afterwards. It doesn't really seem like Jo wrote her with any sort of unconscious malice or bias, seeing as Cho turns out to be a good person. Just my two cents.
Stephanie wrote: "As for Dani's comment, I don't believe that Jo wrote Cho that biased. If you read the fourth book, she is kind to Harry throughout, not even making a spectacle when he falls over himself to ask her to the Yule Ball. She also joins Dumbledore's Army and continues to do so even after Harry and her don't work out romantically. She's heartbroken by the loss of Cedric, and you can't really blame her for that. Yet she stands up and fights with them afterwards. It doesn't really seem like Jo wrote her with any sort of unconscious malice or bias, seeing as Cho turns out to be a good person. Just my two cents."I agree with all of that. But, see that's not what most of the fans get. It seems that the only thing most fans see was the way things never worked out between her and Harry, her crying on the date, her defending her friend (which I personally find awesomely loyal on her part) and the part in the Deathly Hallows where Ginny randomly went all green-eyed when Cho offered to lead Harry to Ravenclaw Tower and just going dissing her. I think that was Rowling's intention, and it's only when you really read between the lines that you can see the positives in her character. That just my personal opinion.
I don't particularly like the girl, but I would have cut her some slack. She's been through a lot. I would not have liked to see her with Harry though, and so I'm quite gad J.K made Harry marry Ginny instead.
Dani wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "As for Dani's comment, I don't believe that Jo wrote Cho that biased. If you read the fourth book, she is kind to Harry throughout, not even making a spectacle when he falls over ..."You know, you're completely right. I don't think people really focus on all the good things Cho did. I also think that Jo may have written her character with a subconscious lean towards her sensitive side (which I think, because of Ginny's side, is drawn out) which kind of eclipses her more thoughtful side. But all in all, I think that Cho was written a bit annoying, to serve the purpose of illustrating how Harry and Cho were NEVER meant to be together. But no, I totally agree with your comment.
I think the only female character with any depth was Herminoe.
She was really self-centered and bratty and blargh
Ruby wrote: "She was really self-centered and bratty and blargh"How was she? She was very upset about awful events, I don't see why she has a responsibility to be completely considerate. Yes, maybe Harry's suffering was worse, but that doesn't make her pain any less.
Besides, Harry himself wasn't the nicest in Order of the Phoenix.
Lily wrote: "Ruby wrote: "She was really self-centered and bratty and blargh"How was she? She was very upset about awful events, I don't see why she has a responsibility to be completely considerate. Yes, m..."
Right on, Lily. Even tho Cho isn't in the least any less annoying, she was going through a lot.
She was annoying, but why blame only her? Harry had no tact to meet another girl whoeever it may be, during their date. He didn' t really know how to treat a girl romantically- remember the Yule ball? - until he fell for Ginny. The point is Harry and Cho were not made for each other and it showed. Cho had a right to her feelings and Harry had a right to have other friends, but it came off as awkward for them.
Kerri wrote: "I personally feel like she jerked Harry around, but she wasn't a bad person. Just a typical teenage girl. I mean, come on, at least she didn't turn out to be like Pansy and Crabbe and Goyle."Best comment ever :)
I wasn't the biggest fan of Cho. I understood her pain but felt it was odd for her to try and get close to Harry. He would clearly be a reminder of her lost boyfriend and I think the relationship took a bit of an unhealthy turn. I have to wonder if her attraction to him was more nostalgic than anything. An attempt to hold onto Cedric after he was gone.
I think Cho was with Harry solely because of his popularity. I think even Ginny was at first so obsessed with Harry because of his popularity but they ended up as good friends before they started dating and that was what i liked about their relationship. With Cho everything was just so different. She liked Cedric, definitely, but she wanted Harry too, giving him all kinds of mixed signals and stuffs, and when she was with Harry she was never really happy, maybe that had more to do with the fact that her boyfriend died and also a little to do with Hermione being such a big part of Harry's life. But then Harry never could trust Cho the way he trusts Hermione and being always being in the shadow of someone like Hermione could not have helped matters either. I know that was wrong of her to bring u Cedric in ways trying to compare him with Harry. The worst part about Cho though was that she jumped guys way too quickly, she should have taken her time getting over Cedric before dating Harry and definitely not dated Roger Davis again so soon after leaving things in such a bad term with harry.
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