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message 1: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
You can post in the Feedback Group about that. It's not supposed to be doing that. (Amazon's recommendations are constantly suggesting other editions of books I've read and rated. Why would I buy another edition?? Nonsensical.)

I don't plan to use it much. Recommendation engines just don't work all that well for me, for a variety of reasons. This one in particular is recommending me things based on shelves I created specifically to segregate awful books, books I didn't finish, or books I will never read.

But GR had to create it. A lot of people were clamoring for it, and they felt like they couldn't be a viable book site without a recommendations tool.


message 2: by Pat (new)

Pat (patb37) I would like to see the 'not interested' designation available on all titles, not just the recommended lists


message 3: by janine (last edited Sep 16, 2011 03:03AM) (new)

janine | 7709 comments The recommendations feature is trying to push science fiction on me (with two seperate but nearly identical lists of recommendations), a genre I rarely read.


message 4: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments It's fun to play around with, but I really don't need more books on my to-read shelf, so I don't anticipate using it much.


message 5: by Helena (new)

Helena | 1056 comments Like Sarah, I have enough books on the pile waiting to be read, but when I just tried it out some of the suggestions were actually pretty good.


message 6: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Lobstergirl wrote: "I don't plan to use it much. Recommendation engines just don't work all that well for me, for a variety of reasons. This one in particular is recommending me things based on shelves I created specifically to segregate awful books, books I didn't finish, or books I will never read."

Same here--the first set of recommendations was based on my Bookmooch shelf, which is stuff I've given away.


message 7: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) I don't mind looking at recommendation lists. Until now, I hadn't even looked at that new section and there were some books on it that I'll go back and take a second look at.


message 8: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments I think the beta will need a lot of work before it is in any way helpful. I have an entire shelf devoted to Doctor Who novels; that shelf generated, among other things, recommendations for Tin Tin and the Peanuts collection. Weird and not helpful.


message 9: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Actually you can instruct it not to give you recommendations for certain shelves. You can turn those shelves off.

The things I usually put on my to read shelf are more obscure than what they recommend for me. I tend to hear of various old and out of print books, either by reading articles/essays/criticism, or looking through the bibliographies of books I'm reading. This engine is never going to find those books.


message 10: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Barb wrote: "Is it just me, or is the new "recommendations" function dumb?
It's actually telling me I should read a book I already have on my read list."


You can send an email to support@goodreads.com about it, if you like.


message 11: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
I figured you didn't.


message 12: by Ruby (new)

Ruby  Tombstone Lives! (rubytombstone) I participated in the beta testing of it, and it does have a few quirks - For example I can only read English, but most of my recommendations are for books in other languages. For some reason GR factors in the author's country of origin in the algorithm, plus a lot of the books in database don't have a language specified.

That said, it's an ambitious feature they've put together, and pretty impressive, really ,for a first attempt.


message 13: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments I read a lot of books in Dutch and so far haven't had any recommendations for books by Dutch authors. Maybe if I switch my country from Mauritius to the Netherlands.


message 14: by Ruby (new)

Ruby  Tombstone Lives! (rubytombstone) janine wrote: "I read a lot of books in Dutch and so far haven't had any recommendations for books by Dutch authors. Maybe if I switch my country from Mauritius to the Netherlands."

Your own country doesn't seem to factor. If you read a book in English (translated from Dutch), it will start recommending books in Dutch. Not hugely logical, but that's what it's doing!


message 15: by Ruby (new)

Ruby  Tombstone Lives! (rubytombstone) A computer program is a reflection of the programmers' reasoning. They need to set up a language filter is all.

Apparently there aren't enough books in the database where the field has been filled in to create an effective filter just now, but the techs are playing with a workaround.


message 16: by [deleted user] (new)

I was recommended a Calvin and Hobbes anthology. On the very few occasions I've read Calvin and Hobbes not only have I thought, "Well there's 30 seconds of my life I'll never get back," but I also remember thinking, "This shit would go down a storm at a closed-head injury survivors support group."


message 17: by Hayley (new)

Hayley Stewart (haybop) I actually found myself being recommended books I'd already read but had forgotten about so didn't include on here and one or two I wouldn't mind reading.

Not a bad idea for a function imo, just needs a few wrinkles ironed :)


message 18: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Paschen | 7333 comments janine wrote: "The recommendations feature is trying to push science fiction on me (with two seperate but nearly identical lists of recommendations), a genre I rarely read."
Janine, you can specify which genres you enjoy and uncheck the sci fi box.


message 19: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments I've played with the recommendations function a bit (added a few shelves, picked some favourite genres) and it makes much more sense now.


message 20: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Paschen | 7333 comments Good! It is really fun. My to-read shelf will grow by at least 20% or more.


message 21: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments I've added a 'before goodreads' shelf for the recommendations I've already read. I'm rediscovering books I read as a kid and had almost forgotten about.


message 22: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments I feel that this recommendation function, when I use it properly, will make my TBR ridiculously unwieldy. Not that it isn't already a bit much (my TBR outnumbers my read by almost 2-1 at this point, but I guess that's to be expected on Goodreads).


message 23: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments Cynthia wrote: "Good! It is really fun. My to-read shelf will grow by at least 20% or more."

I will not currently try it for this very reason, I have a lot of books to already try and get to.


message 24: by Ruby (new)

Ruby  Tombstone Lives! (rubytombstone) It's a fun function, I think. I'm hoping it'll get a bit more sophisticated with time, and be able to select more and more appropriate books based on a wider range of variables. From what I saw on the beta testing thread, I was really impressed with the way they gave serious consideration to every suggestion that was made. It's rare to find a site that is so responsive to user feedback.

Here's the (massive) thread if anyone's interested. They were carefully logging and summarising everyone's ideas as they went.
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/6...


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

Barb wrote: "Clark wrote: "I was recommended a Calvin and Hobbes anthology. On the very few occasions I've read Calvin and Hobbes not only have I thought, "Well there's 30 seconds of my life I'll never get bac..."

Rain check.


message 26: by Cyril (new)

Cyril


message 27: by Hayley (new)

Hayley Stewart (haybop) That's sad :( I'm not a big calvin and hobbes fan but that's just a little bit sad.


message 28: by Ruby (new)

Ruby  Tombstone Lives! (rubytombstone) Bahaha! Love it. I never did like Calvin & Hobbes. An old flatmate of mine named her cat Calvin. I didn't bother explaining she'd named it after the wrong character.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

Hello? It's a dull as watching a car rust.


message 30: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments Barb wrote: "How can someone NOT love Calvin & Hobbes. Hello? Snowman series!!!!"

Maybe all that poison Clark pumped into his system in his 20's is slowly seeping into his soul?


message 31: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments That seems a little extreme Bun, but I'm wit you about Calvin & Hobbes.


message 32: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Love Calvin & Hobbes.



message 33: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Paschen | 7333 comments I adore that twisted little boy.


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

Amber wrote: "Barb wrote: "How can someone NOT love Calvin & Hobbes. Hello? Snowman series!!!!"

Maybe all that poison Clark pumped into his system in his 20's is slowly seeping into his soul?"


My soul was forfeited to Satan at a Black Sabbath concert in 1973.

Calvin and Hobbes is too - I don't know, friggin' wholesome - and about as funny as you'd expect from wholesome. Unless you're all on 'shrooms. Everything's funny on 'shrooms.

Gimme "The Far Side" or "Zippy the Pinhead."




God, that's priceless.


message 35: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments Clark wrote: "Amber wrote: "Barb wrote: "How can someone NOT love Calvin & Hobbes. Hello? Snowman series!!!!"

Maybe all that poison Clark pumped into his system in his 20's is slowly seeping into his soul?"..."


I will grant that "Far Side" is superior. To be perfectly honest, I prefer "The Boondocks" to just about any of them.


message 36: by [deleted user] (new)

Barb wrote: "Oh, Clark. Any strip is going to have some that don't have any amusing qualities outside of the weeks "plot" "

That's my point. I could have chosen any one of them. They're all about as funny as Jerry Seinfeld's stand-up act.

Let's face it - like love songs, comic strips about mischevious little kids reached critical mass years ago. The topic's been pretty well covered.

Somewhere Charles Schulz and Hank Ketchum are spinning in their graves and Bill Keane looks a little peaked too.


message 37: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments This has nothing to do with the GR function but it does help you find a book to read.

Take a look -- it's fun.


message 38: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
That was cute, but it told me to read Animal Farm. It thought I needed an allegory.


message 39: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments I got Slaughterhouse-5


message 40: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Paschen | 7333 comments I got Frankenstein.


message 41: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments The Eyre Affair.


message 42: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments The Way of Kings.


message 43: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Doomsday Book
Read it. Loved it.


message 44: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Barb, the text was very faint--white on grey. By starting over and trying different paths, I got Hyperion, The Eyre Affair and Perdido Street Station. I also found out that they only had one answer per path, like a flow chart.


message 45: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments It is in fact just a different format for a flowchart -made by SFSignal, I believe - that was making the rounds last week. The books in it are the NPR 100 SF & Fantasy mentioned here during the summer.


message 46: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Yay, I get perceptiveness points for seeing a flowchart when it bops me on the nose!


message 48: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments Sarah Pi wrote: "Doomsday Book
Read it. Loved it."


Really, really loved it? I only ask because a friend lent me a copy, and I'm wary of borrowing books, especially when a friend recommends them (that's how I ended up reading Twilight, guilt). I don't want to hate it and then have to explain to someone that loves it why I hate it.


message 49: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments I loved it too.


message 50: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Really, really loved it.
I know there are some people who have had issues with a certain tendency in her writing, but I think you will find a lot of fans of it here.


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