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I agree with Brenda, a 3, and for the same reason. Well said.



solid 7 a real page turner

Lots of people seem to hold a grudge because they think the story should have been written by an African-American. That is racism in reverse. In my opinion, rating this book at three suggests baggage and agenda. Similar baggage and agenda might stand in the way of a black author arriving at such a popular story. There was a book authored by an African-American that was suggested as an alternative by Oprah. Even with Winfrey’s blessing, that book did not garner an audience as large or as enthusiastic as that for The Help. That black author’s story needs to be told. It offers a different slant. Stockett reached more people and will open more hearts.
I lived in the South of that time. There is a great black woman who has occupied my heart since my infancy to this day. I’m glad Stockett told a story that made people see what African-Americans endured; made them know the fear black Jacksonians experienced in the wake of Medgar Evers murder; helped them understand the worth of every individual; and drilled home the knowledge that friendship, love, and respect can exist between the races.
There once was an open wound, now there is a scab, there will always be a scar, but stories like The Help are healers.
Mr. Dick,
So if someone doesn't agree with your assessment they have baggage and agenda (and are potentially reverse racists)? That is very harsh and uncalled for. We were engaging in critical thinking, not emotional reaction.
As to your scab analogy, I am curious as to how it helped heal the wound. It seemed to just pick the scab. Granted the book did show some respectful relationships between races, and the fear that was felt in the south, but how did this heal anything for the reader?
So if someone doesn't agree with your assessment they have baggage and agenda (and are potentially reverse racists)? That is very harsh and uncalled for. We were engaging in critical thinking, not emotional reaction.
As to your scab analogy, I am curious as to how it helped heal the wound. It seemed to just pick the scab. Granted the book did show some respectful relationships between races, and the fear that was felt in the south, but how did this heal anything for the reader?

My comment about the reverse racism had nothing to do with any statements in the thread, but I do believe it is selfish and arrogant of people to wait until someone like Stockett writes a book like The Help and then question her right or capability to offer such a work. If an African-American author wants to write a better novel, capture even more public enthusiasm, and provide vision from another angle, I am SO on their side.
If you skin your knee and put Neosporin on the wound, the injury does not miraculously heal itself. Yet, it would be accurate to call the Neosporin a healer in that it creates a circumstance in which healing can occur. If thousands of people have their minds and hearts opened, even just a little bit, by The Help in either book or movie form, the inadequacies of our racial relations will not immediately right themselves. Yet, the widespread alteration of thoughts and feelings that results must be considered a healer. A book containing the nasty details of race relations then and now in an all-inclusive and rigidly accurate fashion doesn’t have nearly the chance of moving us closer to healing, and the reason is that it won’t attain enough popularity necessary to move the needle very far.

A 9 1/2 toward the end it became predictable.

A lot of folks would probably believe that is not possible for Aibileen. I suppose those people must think that Oprah Winfrey is an illusion.


I enjoyed both the movie and the novel as a fictional portrayal of a historical (and in some ways current) occurrence. I would LOVE a sequel, but I'm not sure it would live up to the possibilities I've imagined.
I read this book for a book club and while discussing the book we constantly found stories in our own lives that we could identify as a "Hilly moment" or a "Minnie moment"- it kept coming back to how grey we all are and how a book gets to make people so black and white (no pun intended, but I thought it was fun).
I give The Help a 9- beautifully done!

I think you bring up an interesting point. Can we accept a book on a perspective that is not of the author's own? Can we accept a book from a white women on the back perspective, could we accept a book on the female experience from a man and so on and so on?
Certainly most books are written by authors who are not exactly like their character. J.K Rowling is certainly not a teenage boy wizard. However we do like our authors to be our characters and often will give the book more credit if they are. It is an interesting predicament for an author.

Nice expansion of the thought, Gretchen.


Well said. I was going to recommend Eric Jerome Dickey to you, but I see you already know him. I sampled his work and that of Brandon Massey when I was pitching my book to the lady who at that time was literary agent to both of them. My sampling and comments from a work colleague tell me that Dickey is very steamy. Here's wishing you continued happy reading.

BUT, I do love the theme--a focus on the feminine struggle of the era. A focus on the black struggle. I do love that this book (and, begrudgingly, the movie) bring this issue to a broad audience. In that light you could argue that the accessible level of the book in itself is a success.

well said...As a white Canadian who often travels through the South, it opened my eyes to the scars which I knew were there on some level, but Help brought them to life for me. The book is a 10.





My argument against the novel stems from the ending. As I read, I found the book to keep my attention, but certainly not so much that I couldn't eat or sleep, as with some books I read. However, I felt that the end completely flopped, and for me, endings make or break the novel. The conclusion left me feeling like nothing had been resolved. Suddenly, the author just.. stopped writing. Even if nothing was changed, I expect a tie-back to the beginning--perhaps a quote from one of the characters stated in both the end and the beginning. Something that ties the book all together in a neat bundle, even if the ending isn't neat. Elementary school children learn that their paper will have an introduction, three points, and a conclusion, and that the intro and conclusion will say nearly the same thing, but worded differently. I believe that authors should follow some of the same principles.

It is a bit of a "beach read", and the ending doesn't wrap up neatly into a little bundle, but I think that's part of what makes this book good. Although far from real life, The Help tries to be realistic, and reality never wraps up neatly. The story that needed to be told had been told, and life for the characters went on, just how it does in real life. I think that the fact that it didn't have a clean ending made the book more real and emotionally powerful.
Renee wrote: "On a scale from 1-10 what do you rate the help, 10 being the best/highest"
I'd give it a 6 ,maybe a 7 . Good story,and wonderful idea . I guess maybe if the author could have in some way made you feel closer to the characters it would have been even better. It kinda felt like you were watching the story from outside the house,instead of inside with them .
I'd give it a 6 ,maybe a 7 . Good story,and wonderful idea . I guess maybe if the author could have in some way made you feel closer to the characters it would have been even better. It kinda felt like you were watching the story from outside the house,instead of inside with them .

I loved the characters and soon was drawn into each persons thoughts and actions. I got to the end of one characters chapter and wanted to skip right to the next one of the same person but forced myself to keep reading thru page by page and then was into the next character just as eagerly.
The beauty of books, we can pick and choose to our individual liking and write an opinion!! Gotta love that!!


I really like your comment. We have similar value systems and to "remember" where we came from, and to remember what our forefathers did to make our country what it is. I recently read a book called "Amazing Grace" about William Wilberforce, who helped to eliminate abolition/slavery in England. Fantastic story, and I really appreciate what these strong people have done. I've also read some books by Jennifer Chiaverini about the Underground Railroad and how they tie into quilting as a communication tool and keeping people safe trying to escape from their slave owners. We have a tremendous history and people wanting there to be success. When we went through the Civil War, slavery was such a huge issue, and not being there then, did it really take a war to get it under some control. I've wondered many times.

Dick wrote: "It's a 10 in my book. It did do its job. It told a great story. It entertained. It opened eyes. Even so, if anyone outside the book's cover does not know that race relations are not yet where ..."
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I thought the book was well written, and heartfelt. I felt that it lacked something. I can't put my finger on it.




Danya wrote: "Abby wrote: "I would rate this book a five. Like some said, I would definitely agree that it seems a bit like a beach read, but the subject matter is too serious. The subject matter it does contai..."
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I think there is an ending, simply is "You is kind. You is smart. You is important." Self-identity, worthiness are what one needs to venture into the unknown future. The main characters finally realized that was also what she need, thus, finally free.



I would rate this book a 6 or 7. I am very interested in reading more of this author. I do like how she incorporated her past in the book and made it feel real. I wouldn't down this book and I would recommend it to others.
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