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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Sandy

#148 – I couldn't figure out why Gerold did that...was he the one who betrayed the plot?
I couldn’t figure out his motive either, unless he was an undercover assassin. If so, whose? And if so, then he wouldn’t betray the plot, or would he?

#151 – Littlefinger is pervy and creepy! I still don't know how he can marry her off when she's already married. He's assuming he will find Tyrion. Maybe he already knows where he is?
I’m in total agreement on the pervy and creepy description. He might know where Tyrion is! O.M.G. You could be right on that part; I hadn’t thought of it, but that would make total sense, as he is the one who could hide him.

#152 – would ruin his plans for world domination
LMAO! Right you are.

#154 – I think she's really grown as a person since we first met her.
I think you’re right on all counts for this answer, but especially this one.

#155 – I think she is a paid spy. Sansa is wise to keep her mouth shut.
True. But, if she is a paid spy, who is paying her?


message 202: by SandyC (new)

SandyC (sandyc88) | 1193 comments Okay, I just re-read the prologue and now I think I understand at least a little bit more about the last chapter.


message 203: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments I'm done! Yippee! I finished the last chapter and re-read the prologue (though I swore I wouldn't, despite what Sandy wrote) again and close the book at a little b/f midnight last night.


message 204: by Lisarenee (new)

Lisarenee | 7659 comments Guys, I won't get the questions up until around one or so. Taking kids to an event. I'll get them up later.


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Lisarenee | 7659 comments I'm back earlier than planned and will start the questions.


message 206: by Lisarenee (last edited Sep 24, 2011 09:19AM) (new)

Lisarenee | 7659 comments Questions for Chapter 42 (Brienne) - Chapter 45(Samwell)

I'm going to start this one out with the shocking stuff first.

156) Catelyn and Brienne reunited. Do you think Brienne will die?

157) Podrick dead???? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

158) Rob's wife's family was in on killing him? Oh dear goodness! I'm utterly speechless! Anyone see this coming?

159) Cersei and Margaery held by the Septa??????? What did Cersie unleash?

160) Cersei's note to Jaime was very vague. I don't blame him for not going. Do you think he would have if he realized what a mess she'd landed herself in?

161) Any thoughts on what letting Ser Brynden escape will do?

162) Freys going to side with Stannis? Could be an interesting developement.

163) I have to say I hate how women are made to look so frail and stupid in this book. I want Dany! I'm even questioning Arya's intelligence since she took up with the creepy guy with a worm in his eye socket.

164) I'm a little confused. Samwell ended up where he was supposed to go, but Gilly will stay with the Islanders?

165) Thoughts on the visit with the archmaester?

166) They thought Stannis was to be King. Once they realize it's Dany who was to fulfill the prophecy, what will they do with Stannis?


Who's going to continue with the next book? Do we need a break?



message 207: by Lisa Kay (last edited Sep 24, 2011 10:47AM) (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisa Kay’s Answers to Lisarenee’s Questions for Chapter 42 (Brienne) - Chapter 45(Samwell)

I'm going to start this one out with the shocking stuff first.

156) Catelyn and Brienne reunited. Do you think Brienne will die?
I know! I was hoping for a reunion, but didn’t expect Catelyn to be the evil one in the scenario. Unlike Beric Dondarrion, Lady Stoneheart is a truly different person. Nope, I think Brienne will live. Can’t imagine what she yelled. I don’t think “Sapphires” would work, would it?

157) Podrick dead???? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This really pissed me off. Almost as much as Ned Stark, which I understood, in a way. Just makes me realize there is so little in the book to cheer for.

158) Robb's wife's family was in on killing him? Oh dear goodness! I'm utterly speechless! Anyone see this coming?
I was totally flabbergasted. Lady Westerling is disgusting and I’m glad Jamie told her to “get out of town by tomorrow”. Who knew Lord Tywin was so devious? Well, we all did, but…

159) Cersei and Margaery held by the Septa??????? What did Cersie unleash?
Yes, it makes me wonder if Pycelle was in on the plot to eliminate both queens.

160) Cersei's note to Jaime was very vague. I don't blame him for not going. Do you think he would have if he realized what a mess she'd landed herself in?
I thought it was vague too! I think he might have gone if it had been clearer, if only that the “Lannister” kingdom is now at stake, or at least control of King Tommen.

161) Any thoughts on what letting Ser Brynden escape will do?
The plot thickens, indeed. I don’t know answer, but I have a ton more: Will he run into Lady Stoneheart? Or end up somewhere else? Maybe with Sansa?

162) Freys going to side with Stannis? Could be an interesting development.
They have no loyalty, not even amongst themselves – not even compared to anyone else.

163) I have to say I hate how women are made to look so frail and stupid in this book. I want Dany! I'm even questioning Arya's intelligence since she took up with the creepy guy with a worm in his eye socket.
LOL! Yes, this book wasn’t good PR for women.

164) I'm a little confused. Samwell ended up where he was supposed to go, but Gilly will stay with the Islanders?
I was confused too. I need to look at the map to figure out how close his family home and the Islanders are.

165) Thoughts on the visit with the archmaester?
Mostly a question: What was the difference b/t the first place he went to to tell his story and the second? I didn’t understand the relevance of that at all, but it has got to have some significance.

166) They thought Stannis was to be King. Once they realize it's Dany who was to fulfill the prophecy, what will they do with Stannis?
He’s toast.

Who's going to continue with the next book? Do we need a break?
I don’t know. I’m not sure if I’m in or not for A Dance With Dragons. I put in for it at the library for audiobook, but I’m not using my birthday gift cert to purchase it; the books have b/c too violent and depressing for me. And, I heard the next one isn’t any better. I’ll let you know if I get the book in time. When I do get it, maybe I’ll answer your questions, ladies. I’ve enjoyed the “buddy read’ – it was the only bright spot about this bleak book.

I gave all the previous books ★★★★★; this one gets ★★★½✩.


message 208: by Lisa Kay (last edited Sep 24, 2011 09:51AM) (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Thanks you, Lisarenee, for all your hard work in posting the majority of the questions. Sorry I didn't post more, but this book just wasn't my cuppa tea.

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SandyC (sandyc88) | 1193 comments Questions for Chapter 42 (Brienne) - Chapter 45(Samwell)

I'm going to start this one out with the shocking stuff first.

156) Catelyn and Brienne reunited. Do you think Brienne will die?

OH, man...I was so upset that Catelyn didn't believe Brienne. Although,I suppose Catelyn isn't really herself anymore. *sigh* these last chapters were difficult and depressing! I hope Brienne doesn't die! There is a character in my favorite series (Outlander)who survives a hanging, so I suppose it's possible she will live.

157) Podrick dead???? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, sad and depressing. Can he somehow be saved? I think this is GRRM begging us to keep going. Can you imagine if we had to wait FIVE YEARS to see how this continues????

158) Rob's wife's family was in on killing him? Oh dear goodness! I'm utterly speechless! Anyone see this coming? I was a little confused about this. She states "If I had known what was to happen there [at the Twins] I would never have allowed that { meaning she wouldn't have allowed her son to go there]. So, was she in on it from the beginning or did she agree to side with Tywin after the Red Wedding happened? And no, I didn't suspect this. I suppose it's not surprising considering the Westerlings were on the Lannisters' side in the first place, before Robb defeated them.

159) Cersei and Margaery held by the Septa??????? What did Cersie unleash? I don't know. I know Cersei deserves what's coming to her, but these people are just STRANGE.

160) Cersei's note to Jaime was very vague. I don't blame him for not going. Do you think he would have if he realized what a mess she'd landed herself in? This was certainly a turning point for Jaime and Cersei. I admit I was surprised he didn't help her. I wonder if he realizes that it's a life or death situation.

161) Any thoughts on what letting Ser Brynden escape will do? He could build an army against the Lannisters.

162) Freys going to side with Stannis? Could be an interesting developement. Yes, indeed.

163) I have to say I hate how women are made to look so frail and stupid in this book. I want Dany! I'm even questioning Arya's intelligence since she took up with the creepy guy with a worm in his eye socket. I know. I've said before how I hate the direction Arya is going. I am not happy with it at all. Here's hoping for lots of Dany in book 5!

164) I'm a little confused. Samwell ended up where he was supposed to go, but Gilly will stay with the Islanders???

165) Thoughts on the visit with the archmaester? The archmaester was just waiting for a reason to take off to find Dany.

After re-reading the prologue, I am wondering is "Pate" really the alchemist who killed the real Pate in the Prologue?

166) They thought Stannis was to be King. Once they realize it's Dany who was to fulfill the prophecy, what will they do with Stannis? I think Stannis will take the lead in fighting the Others, since he's at the Wall.


Who's going to continue with the next book? Do we need a break?

I am going to continue. I am flexible to start any time.


message 210: by Lisa Kay (last edited Sep 24, 2011 08:55PM) (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Sandy

#156 – Although,I suppose Catelyn isn't really herself anymore.
Really! In Real Life, almost all people who come back from the dead had a renewed appreciation for life. At least in my experience. But, alas, I guess Catelyn was dead too long. I didn’t understand all of Brienne’s dreams either. Was she really seeing the dead? Did that mean she was that close to death? You dislike what GRRM is doing to Arya; well, I dislike what he has done to Brienne.

#157 – Can you imagine if we had to wait FIVE YEARS to see how this continues????
Come talk to me after you finish A Dance With Dragons. I mean, how is this guy going to write book six - let alone seven - and also have so much say-so in the HBO series? I hope he’s manic.

#158 – So, was she in on it from the beginning or did she agree to side with Tywin after the Red Wedding happened?
Ah! Good catch, that. I think Lady Sybell Westerling never “bent her knee” to King Robb, even when he became her son-in-law. She probably contacted Lord Tywin and remained loyal to his cause, agreeing to spy on the young king where she could. That’s why she kept giving her daughter, poor Queen Jeyne, tea to keep her infertile. Unfortunately for Lady Sybell, the Freys didn’t let her in on their plans. I LOVE that Raynald cut King Robb’s direwolf, Grey Wolf, loose when they went to kill him; I hope he did it for humanitarian reasons; seems he and his sister share a sense of honor.

#165 – The archmaester was just waiting for a reason to take off to find Dany.
LOL! He was? Okay, now that I think back on it, yes, I concur.
After re-reading the prologue, I am wondering is "Pate" really the alchemist who killed the real Pate in the Prologue?
Curse you, Sandy, you made me re-read the prologue when I wanted to be done with this book! (LOL! Just kidding.) I was wondering about this switch-around too. I think that it is a new “Pate”. Does it have something to do with the darn key?


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Lisarenee | 7659 comments Sandy wrote, After re-reading the prologue, I am wondering is "Pate" really the alchemist who killed the real Pate in the Prologue?

Excellent thought.


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Lisarenee | 7659 comments The High Septa reminds me of those people from the Spanish Inquisition.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisarenee wrote: "The High Septa reminds me of those people from the Spanish Inquisition."

True!


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Lisarenee | 7659 comments I did buy the next book this week.


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SandyC (sandyc88) | 1193 comments Still have no idea what the key is for!


message 216: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Sandy wrote: "Still have no idea what the key is for!"

Me neither!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments I am patron #4 out of 7 on the library "wait list" for the audiobook of A Dance With Dragons (A Song of Ice and Fire, #5) by George R.R. Martin . The library has 3 copies. What do you think my odds are of getting the book in time, is everyone checks it out for 7-14-or-21 days?


message 218: by Lisarenee (new)

Lisarenee | 7659 comments What are the books due dates?


message 219: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments They don't tell me that. But you can't re-new if someone wants a downloadable item. The check-out intervals are 7-14-or-21 days. So, I'm calculating, LOL! Maybe I might be able to jump in. Plus, you can't tell. Sometimes people decline and **poof** the book b/c availalbe. That happened with The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (Millennium, #1) by Stieg Larsson . One minute I was #122 and then next minute I was able to download.


message 220: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Kind of hard to plan challenges on the "wait list" books. But... I just go with an alternative as a backup now.


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