Wolfsbane (Nightshade, #2; Nightshade World, #5) Wolfsbane discussion


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Shay getting sooooo annoying......

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Karina I just hate it how Shay is sooo annoying after Ren had to lied for them when they left Vail. Also, I honestly hope that Calla and Ren end up together on the third book. I felt soooo bad for Ren on the book and how he is so lonely. I don't get Calla.....who does she really love???????????


Jennifer "I don't get Calla.....who does she really love??????????? "

I think that is the problem and why Shay was a little annoying in this book. He is confused and getting different signals from Calla.


Karina Yes, Calla has to make up her mind and it seems like she kind of did at the end of the book. But Shay is also always on top of Calla. He should just leave her alone that way she can make up her mind and decide who she really wants to be with.


S.L.J. (view spoiler)


Veronica Ren and Shay are two completely different alphas. Where Ren is aggressive, protective and caring of his pack, Shay is whinny, demanding of compliance even though the pack barely knows him and selfish.


S.L.J. Veronica wrote: "Ren and Shay are two completely different alphas. Where Ren is aggressive, protective and caring of his pack, Shay is whinny, demanding of compliance even though the pack barely knows him and selfish."

Yeah, but Shay never had a pack to be protective over. Only Calla.


Heather read it i cant stand shay anymore hes to needy and anoying i want Ren!!!!!!!!!!


Karina Yes, they are both alphas but Shay doesn't know anything about the job. Plus, I agree he is soooo demanding and selfish. I hope there is more about Ren on the third book and not so much about Shay. Ren is also important.


Veronica I feel like "Bloodrose" will be Ren's book like "Wolfsbane" was Shay's. At least, I hope so!


S.L.J. I can see Shay getting his heart broken in Bloodrose. Then he'll go off and do something supremly heroic and save the world or something. That's apprently what he's supposed to do anyway.


Veronica Our he'll become an a-hole who exacts revenge by hurting/killing Ren. I can see Shay doing that :P


S.L.J. Veronica wrote: "Our he'll become an a-hole who exacts revenge by hurting/killing Ren. I can see Shay doing that :P"

That would be intresting. I can definately see a fight happening between those two.


Hannah I can see both of them doing that. They both love Calla which is a problem for her.


S.L.J. (view spoiler)


message 15: by M. (new) - rated it 3 stars

M. Sammy wrote: "[spoilers removed]"

Puppy traitor! LOL. I like that.

Is it only me that sees it, but every time Ren is alone with Calla, all I see is him trying to get into her pants.
Yes, Shay can be a bit pushy and annoying, but someone had to break through all the brainwashing Calla went through her entire life. Again, I blame Andrea Cremer, she did not do a good job writing Shay. He could be soooo much better.


S.L.J. Michelle wrote: "Sammy wrote: "[spoilers removed]"

Puppy traitor! LOL. I like that.

Is it only me that sees it, but every time Ren is alone with Calla, all I see is him trying to get into her pants.
Yes, Shay can..."


I agree. It's always seemed more phsyical or because it was set-up between Calla and Ren. They've been told they were going to be together since forever, which stopped Calla from getting with anyone else but Ren screwed pretty anything with a pulse. Shay and Calla seems more rebellious, like there is more freedom in it.


Veronica Even though Ren is pretty physical with Calla, I feel like he is genuinely in love with her. Remember, they grew up together. I think he may have loved her since childhood.


message 18: by M. (new) - rated it 3 stars

M. Veronica wrote: "Even though Ren is pretty physical with Calla, I feel like he is genuinely in love with her. Remember, they grew up together. I think he may have loved her since childhood."

I think Ren believes if Calla finally tries his goods, she will never look at Shay again, lol.


Veronica Haha, or that too :P


S.L.J. All the other women he's been with seem to think so. I think it's hilarious that the dude only gave up his slutty ways a month before his wedding and Calla thinks that it's great. :/


Sylvia Shay's definantley most annoying, whiny and shady he's got something brewing up his sleeve that's for sure...Calla has to make a decision regarding Ren or Shay I really do not like indecisiveness...


message 22: by BlackroseBlackheart (last edited Aug 31, 2011 08:08AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

BlackroseBlackheart I think Calla shud give up on both Shay and Ren. I mean, c'mon, Shay's a whiny brat and Ren's just a complete slut. But on the other hand, I think she deserves them both just as they are. She's completely full of herself, and indecisive. I hate tht in a MC. Pick one, or the other. Ya can't hve them both!


Nadie Shay is annoying, Ren isn't who he seems to be, Calla is insecure and indecisive, and part of the pack has gone haywire, while the others are dealing with Calla's, Shay's, and Ren's problems. So I'll say yes Shay is annoying, but so is almost everyone else in some way.


Taylor Even though Ren's been with other girls its not like he and Calla don't hash that out. And what happens near the end of Wolfsbane (Now whos trying to get in Calla's pants!) sort of puts them on even groud. I SO HOPE that thats the only reason the author did it. And on that note, Shay's a petulent pest. Plain and simple. No matter how dominant Ren's hormones might be, would HE have practically forced himself on Calla after all the crap that just happened? And never said a word about how her life was basically torn apart?


Taylor Oh, and I agree that Calla's not acting like the Alpha she should be. But, she did until she met Shay who pretty much is stifling her and chipping away at everything that she was basically just to prove that he was right about her customs and culture. That he had absolutly no right judge so harshly and interfear with just because HE didn't like them. I actually HATE Shay Doran. He's the one problem in this book series.


Heather I love Ren I cant stand the whining of Shay even in the beginning i knew calla had to save him cause she didn't thing it was right but that's where it should have ended the only reason i think she fell for him was because he was there paying her way to much attention and making her finally step out of the line it was a thrill, the end she should have made Ren run away with her too!!!!


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M. The problem is not Shay, it's Calla. She needs to step up and act like an Alpha, not let Shay nor Ren influence her decisions. Shay might be a petulant pest but he was right to question Calla's misconceptions. She had the right to know the truth about her life.
She suffers from what I call the Bella syndrome. When she was with Ren, she kept thinking about Shay. When she is finally with Shay, she keeps thinking about Ren. Make up your mind woman! I hate flimsy characters.


message 28: by Jessica (new)

Jessica no he is not he is so perfect the one that is getting annoying is Ren D:


Tiegan I loved this book but at times i was tempted to put it down because shay was sooo needy and calla was not acting like an Alpha she was abit weak and helpless in this book, Shay was very pushy and i know ren trys to get into callas pants but so does shay..


message 30: by Kira (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kira well I thought shay was really awesome in this book, i mean he is only fighting for the girl he loves and calla u cant blame people for your problems!!! make up your own damn mind.blehh when does the next book come out again?January?


message 31: by Kira (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kira Michelle wrote: "The problem is not Shay, it's Calla. She needs to step up and act like an Alpha, not let Shay nor Ren influence her decisions. Shay might be a petulant pest but he was right to question Calla's mis..."

omg you are soo right Bella syndrome! hahaha i cant put it any other way But shay is not a pest:)


message 32: by Saraejf (new)

Saraejf I think that the only real reason ren wants to get in callas pants is because he's trying to mark her as his territory. Wolves do that all the time. Also I hope her and ren end up together because there is just too much history and chemistry there to let that go. Shay should give his wolf to her little brother so he can be whole again and get with rens sister cuz they obviously like each other. Callas in love with ren but shay confuses her. Her and ren need to just spend a day together and go on a date or something and everything will be fine. Btw, I agree with shay


message 33: by Minoska (last edited Jan 17, 2012 02:40PM) (new)

Minoska Sammy wrote: "Veronica wrote: "Ren and Shay are two completely different alphas. Where Ren is aggressive, protective and caring of his pack, Shay is whinny, demanding of compliance even though the pack barely kn..."


I totall agree with Sammy (no offense) its really not his fault. He has absolutely no experience and no one to really help him out. Id say Calla could help him but she's just being annoying and confusing him.


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Minoska Michelle wrote: "Sammy wrote: "[spoilers removed]"

Puppy traitor! LOL. I like that.

Is it only me that sees it, but every time Ren is alone with Calla, all I see is him trying to get into her pants.
Yes, Shay can..."


I agree!!!


Sarah Edwards Ren <3 Shay can go cry about i!!


Amanda (Gale's Chosen One) Potter Ugh i personally hate Shay. I wouldn't even be upset if he was killed off.
I love Ren though <3 I don't care what people say about Ren being a jerk or a slut. Who cares? That was his past and i think he can change. I actually start to see him change once he realises he loves Calla.
But Shay? He just gets so damn annoying and jealous. I don't blame him though i guess, but something about him just pisses me off. When i read the books and i see the name Shay i want to throw the book out or burn it. Or somehow get inside the book and kill him, then slap Calla and tell her to make up her mind and stop leading both of them on.


Kejje Amanda (Gale's Chosen One) wrote: "Ugh i personally hate Shay. I wouldn't even be upset if he was killed off.
I love Ren though <3 I don't care what people say about Ren being a jerk or a slut. Who cares? That was his past and i thi..."


I totaly agree shay is just soooo annoying


Jenny Cobb Josh wrote: "shays like a dogg that wont stop humping your leg"

lol. totally true.


Alyssha Amanda (Gale's Chosen One) wrote: "Ugh i personally hate Shay. I wouldn't even be upset if he was killed off.
I love Ren though <3 I don't care what people say about Ren being a jerk or a slut. Who cares? That was his past and i thi..."


i agree with this a hundred fold. i think ren and calla should be together


Bookie Wolfsbane

Ughhh!!!! I love Ren and I hope he's the one Calla ends up with. Shay is getting really annoying


Lve2read i totally wanted ren and calla together, *SPOILER*
but nooo, the author had to kill ren, i nearly cried!!
i still really liked shay, he saved her from her life and all, but i liked ren more


Cassandra Frederick Yes, Shay started to become annoying in this book, but it didn't help the Calla was sending mixed signals left and right. That might make any guy a little crazy.

Considering what Ren did in this book, I can forgive Shay for just being a little annoying.


Sabrien Abdelrahman Karina wrote: "I just hate it how Shay is sooo annoying after Ren had to lied for them when they left Vail. Also, I honestly hope that Calla and Ren end up together on the third book. I felt soooo bad for Ren o..."

I also felt bad for Ren. I know i shouldn't, but i almost think it funny when Calla got jealous of Shay and Adne, considering how Shay felt about Ren and Calla.


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Brandy Wayne Karina wrote: "I just hate it how Shay is sooo annoying after Ren had to lied for them when they left Vail. Also, I honestly hope that Calla and Ren end up together on the third book. I felt soooo bad for Ren o..." I KNOW RIGHT!!


message 45: by Lili (new) - rated it 2 stars

Lili Calla and Ren? As if that's ever going to happen.

We all know the bitch is gonna choose the whiny scion because ... well, I don't know what's so appealing about him but apparently he's supposed to be fun - i think.


Amara Rivera I want Calla and Ren to be together! But no... calla just kept going back to shay! UGHH!


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