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Question 8: Rating Skippy Dies
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Ashley
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Aug 01, 2011 05:33AM

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I actually enjoyed the plot line. Others have said they found it disturbing, but I didn't- perhaps because most of the nonfiction I have read is much more disturbing than this, and with fiction its easier to separate whats not reality in my mind.
My biggest frustration with the book was the writing style, I think. The slow (I think others have used the word meandering) way about telling the story. Although it would have changed Murray's writing style, I feel he could have told the story just as well in half the number of pages.
Maybe I just prefer things to get to the point?

I've been trying to figure out why this book affected me the way it did: like Alisha, I read my share of disturbing non-fiction books, and I cannot believe Skippy Dies threw me off balance the way it did.
I'm divided about the length. I thought it dragged on and on and on in places when I was reading it. After I finished, I flipped back through, and I ended up rereading some of the sections I found slow and, with the knowledge of what happens, I could see how Murray was building and foreshadowing. So now I'm not sure if the book would work at a shorter length, although I would be more likely to recommend it to friends and family if it were not sure a commitment.
If people don't mind me adding a question. In addition to the rating, if people did find it too long, what sections would you cut or shorten?
I haven't scored it yet, but I'll either score it a 2 or a 3. I remember when Cheryl sent us her I'm done note. You have no idea how close I was to jumping ship right behind her. I was very offended by the sex and drugs and language as portrayed in this book. And I'm really not a prude--I was surprised myself that it bothered me this much. That's what's bugging me about it. I really didn't like it. Hallie and Howard were okay for awhile, then that went dysfunctional. I think in honesty it will be a 2.

Like Alisha, I didn't feel disturbed by the book, but maybe a little disheartened. Same with the drugs and sex- it was shocking but not entirely unrealistic (unfortunately).
I think I'll rate it a 4.5. Murray's writing style and tone is so delightfully ironic. And I just don't you can write a decent book about a school full of teen guys without referring to sex pretty much all the time. I thought the dialogue and the one-track minds of these guys were hilariously accurate. The darker portrayals of drugs and sex highlighted the hollow-ness of the characters. Overall, though, the themes were so brilliantly portrayed, and in such complex manner that I didn't connect a lot dots until I finished the book, in my view pushes this novel significantly past Louisa May. Murray is WAY more talented than McNees. But I probably shouldn't compare two completely different types of authors. :)


When reading the book, though, I think part of my dislike for all of the drugs and sex was that it's so old hat. It's standard format for any number of television shows, where it's used solely to sell a product and to make something seem hip and cool. It's pointless gimmickry used to hide weak plots and no creativity. But, as I already said, knowing the entire story behind Skippy Dies, I better understand Murray's use of sex, drugs, and violence and why they were (for the most part) a crucial component of the story.
As far as comparing McNees and Murray: while drastically different, I do think they share a common theme in a character reacting and responding to a life-changing event. For Louisa, it was falling in love. For Skippy, it was a sick parent, molestation and, to some extent, having his first crush. The difference is how they were executed - McNees settled for a comfortable story that didn't push many boundaries, and Murray jumped in with both feet and went nuts.


How about you?
I'm not "you," but your recent notes have given me new perspective on this stuff I had not considered. Dive in or be the cautious one....hmmm. Most of my life, I've kind of been the cautious one, but when I do take the risk, more often than not, I'm rewarded for having taken the leap. This book just pushed me WAY out of my comfort zone, so as I am still digesting the concepts, and with you ladies help and interpretation, I'm understanding it differently today than I did yesterday.