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Why no Kindle? Just out of curiosity.Have you looked into the Sony options?
And with Nook you can check out ebooks from library.
Beware of Nooks. I had one only to discover B&N adds on DRM to the Adobe DRM, so you cannot read their ebooks on anything other than a Nook, although the other way round will work.I have a Kobo Touch and love it. I had a Sony 350 and loved it but my granddaughter sweet talked me out of it :)
Well... I have the Nook Touch and I love it. But, I will say that I was eyeing the Kobo Touch the other day and ooooohing over it. (I ♥ the reading stats & badges feature!) Anyway... I wrote a pretty detailed review of the Nook Touch, with pros and cons... Here's the link (I hope): http://www.goodreads.com/rating/5114012 (ETA: Link works!)
Maybe that will help you with your decision. :)
Majkia wrote: "Beware of Nooks. I had one only to discover B&N adds on DRM to the Adobe DRM, so you cannot read their ebooks on anything other than a Nook, although the other way round will work."I think that's pretty standard practice. You can read nookbooks that you've purchased via B&N on the Nook, and on their Nook apps. What else would you be reading it on? (Not trying to be snarky, sorry if it comes off that way. I'm just curious if other ereader content providers allow you to read their content on other devices etc.)
absolutely. Kobo is not part of Borders. In fact, they invested in Borders to help them out.
Becky, I got rid of the Nook and bought a sony reader. I'd been told Nook books were ADE, which the sony (and the Kobo) can read. But discovered they cannot read Nook Books unless you break their DRM which is a pain.
Kindle does a lot of tracking of your reading habits (pages turns, etc). There is also the possibility that it also tracks where/who you get non-kindle books. ETA: I also liberate my books & Amazon recently changed their DRM scheme to make tools no longer work. :-(
I do want a Sony but they are so expensive. :-(
The Kobo can do library books, too. :-)
Mrs. Joseph - in a draw between Kobo and Nook, I would definitely get the new Nook. I've heard good things about it. I'm a loyal Kindle fan, and when they get their library borrowing in place I think it will be THE perfect ereader, but I currently have an original Nook and I use it for library books now.
MrsJoseph wrote: "Kindle does a lot of tracking of your reading habits (pages turns, etc). There is also the possibility that it also tracks where/who you get non-kindle books. I do want a Sony but they are so e..."
I can't say anything about the tracking of stats, but I don't see how it is possible for Kindle to track where I get my outside books from, especially if it's sideloaded. And I don't think the page turn stats are really possible, either.
If that's the only thing you have against Kindle, I would say go for it.
Majkia wrote: "Becky, I got rid of the Nook and bought a sony reader. I'd been told Nook books were ADE, which the sony (and the Kobo) can read. But discovered they cannot read Nook Books unless you break their DRM which is a pain."Oh. Hmm... I've never heard that, Majkia. Nookbooks are epub format, which isn't a proprietary format, but yeah, B&N definitely adds DRM to their nookbooks, and only allows lending on some, based on publisher allowances, etc. *shrug*
I don't know about nookbooks being ADE, (never thought to try that) but I know that other content managed through ADE is compatible with the nook, for instance e-ARCs through NetGalley, etc.
There is this about the nook which makes me think that my tools will work:From MobileRead:
ADE (Adobe Digital Editions) has a new beta out:
The focus of this release is 'accessibility' - ability to work with screen readers such as JAWS (Windows) and VoiceOver (Mac).
Note that it does not offer all of the features of the previous version: no annotation or printing, and does not support loading of content onto eReaders via USB. Adobe intends to add these back in a future release.
I just installed the Mac version. It appears now to be a native app (not AIR-based) and has conventional application and context menus (and uses half the memory and no CPU cycles when 'idle'). Numerous shortcut keys are defined for both Library and Reading (including one to toggle display of page numbers shown in the margin). This should be a relief to those who have found ADE's interface to be, let us just say, 'unusual'.
I haven't tried it with VoiceOver yet but will report back when I have.
This version shares the Adobe ID authorization of a previously installed copy of ADE 1.7 (which you'll want to leave on there if you want to transfer content to an eReader via USB).
Most likely the underlying ePub / PDF rendering code is the same, as there's no mention of changes or bug fixes in the release notes, beyond "some transparency rendering features are not supported". Does it still support embedded SWF? Don't know yet. Still no B&N DRM support apparently. Correction: B&N ebooks can now be opened.
[update: actually, it looks like there is a new ePub rendering engine, as hyphenation is supported. Perhaps it is the same, or nearly so, as what's in the latest RMSDK used by Nook et al.]
Originally Posted by Jane12 View Post
Cool! Does this mean that once device support is added, it will be possible to transfer B&N books to Sony Readers, Kobo Readers, and other non-B&N ereaders that support ADE DRM?
This will depend...
1.) As you noted - Adobe doesn't have device support in the preview version of ADE 1.8
2.) Adobe when they implement device support will need to support transfer of the 'passhash' (the results of 'hashing' your username and password) to the device.
3.) The device in question will need to have a version of RMSDK of 9.1 or greater. (I think this rules out some of the Sony Readers, BTW).
If all three happen, then yes. It will be interesting to see what Adobe does.
♥Meagan♥ wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote: "Kindle does a lot of tracking of your reading habits (pages turns, etc). There is also the possibility that it also tracks where/who you get non-kindle books. I do want a Sony..."
Well, I'm not sure but I do know that when I drop books into Calibre it always knows my publisher. I can only assume that information is part of the metadata.
As to why, Amazon wants you to buy from them, of course. :-) I'm a big Amazon fan but I liberate my books and their new DRM scheme is also concerning me. i don't need Amazon looking over my shoulder asking me "did you buy that?"
I guess that makes sense, but I have none of those issues, so that's why I was curious.
♥Meagan♥ wrote: "I guess that makes sense, but I have none of those issues, so that's why I was curious."Eh, I might be a little paranoid but I hang out at MR a lot and we specialize in paranoia there, lol.
Patricia wrote: "Mrs. Joseph - in a draw between Kobo and Nook, I would definitely get the new Nook. I've heard good things about it. I'm a loyal Kindle fan, and when they get their library borrowing in place I t..."Good to know! I have been eying that nook. They have shelves/collections, right?
MrsJoseph wrote: "They have shelves/collections, right? "You can create shelves on the Nook, and adding and removing books from them is very easy. :)
I have an older generation Kindle (you can sort the books into collections) and I really like it. I think the newer generation Kindles are much better now.
I also have the Nook STR and I love it. It's the perfect size (very portable). The touch screen is great.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what you do, someone can track you somewhere. Cell phone, home pc, credit cards, debit cards, etc.
I also have the Nook STR and I love it. It's the perfect size (very portable). The touch screen is great.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what you do, someone can track you somewhere. Cell phone, home pc, credit cards, debit cards, etc.
Jennifer wrote: "I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what you do, someone can track you somewhere. Cell phone, home pc, credit cards, debit cards, etc. "This is true...
Gosh darn it! I just want to read a book! :-(
Becky wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote: "They have shelves/collections, right? "You can create shelves on the Nook, and adding and removing books from them is very easy. :)"
I sideload pretty much everything using calibre, and I absolutely adore my Nook. An advantage to the Nook, depending on how tech savvy you and/or your nerd friends are, is the ability to root it. It uses the Android platform, which is nice for these things. Personally, I have not bothered, but would if I were getting the color/touch version. It basically turns it into an Android tablet.
Denae, that's true if you have the NookColor, but the Nook Touch doesn't have a web browser or any of the features the Color has, and I've never heard of anyone rooting it. (And I don't see what the point would be, honestly. LOL)My boyfriend has the NookColor and he keeps thinking about rooting it, but he hasn't yet. He's skeered. :P
I should mention that I pretty much sideload everything through Calibre as well though. :)
Becky wrote: "Denae, that's true if you have the NookColor, but the Nook Touch doesn't have a web browser or any of the features the Color has, and I've never heard of anyone rooting it. (And I don't see what th..."Ah, I couldn't remember what features they both had. My boyfriend is a programmer and has worked on the Android platform, so he's not as worried as I would be. There's a reason I haven't let him root my Nook! Still, I let him root my phone this week, and that worked out well, so maybe...
The only problem is that you forfeit warranty if you root your device....
I sideload everything through Calibre, too. So I have no real need of a browser, 3G, or wi-fi. I like the idea of the auto-download but since I need to liberate my books I don't usually download since it would require extra steps.
I have a ipad2 and absolutely love it!
MrsJoseph wrote: "I sideload everything through Calibre, too. So I have no real need of a browser, 3G, or wi-fi. I like the idea of the auto-download but since I need to liberate my books I don't usually download ..."
I'm so not tech savvy, what does liberate your books mean? And do you sideload everything because you get the ebooks from sources other than B&N or Amazon?
I'm so not tech savvy, what does liberate your books mean? And do you sideload everything because you get the ebooks from sources other than B&N or Amazon?
Jennifer wrote: "I'm so not tech savvy, what does liberate your books mean? And do you sideload everything because you get the ebooks from sources other than B&N or Amazon? "Liberate = remove the DRM infection
I rarely purchase ebooks from B&N or Amazon. I've gotten most of my ebooks from Kobo, smashwords, Baen, fictionwise (and a host of other small press pubs). I try my best to avoid those books infected with DRM but when I have little to no choice in the matter I liberate.
MrsJoseph wrote: "I sideload everything through Calibre, too. So I have no real need of a browser, 3G, or wi-fi. I like the idea of the auto-download but since I need to liberate my books I don't usually download ..."I'll make my recommendation the Nook, in that case. I like that it has wi-fi for those rare occasions I get something through B&N, and I love that it is e-ink rather than an LCD screen. It's so much easier on the eyes.
And I've lost my phone!!!!! Arrrrggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*cries*
MrsJoseph wrote: "And I've lost my phone!!!!! Arrrrggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*cries*"
Oh no!!! I hope next week is better! To lose one electronic in a week is awful, but two-I don't know how you're coping! :((
I feel so crazy. SO VERY CRAZY.
MrsJoseph wrote: "Jennifer wrote: "I'm so not tech savvy, what does liberate your books mean? And do you sideload everything because you get the ebooks from sources other than B&N or Amazon? "
Liberate = remove the..."
I'll have to check out those other places to get ebooks. Cool.
Liberate = remove the..."
I'll have to check out those other places to get ebooks. Cool.
Allromanceebooks.com is a pretty good place, as is smashwords.com. I also use booksonboard.com in addition to what MrsJ listed :)
I have a nook touch and I love it. From what I've seen, it's the best on the market technologically. As people have pointed out, you can get around the DRM if you feel that you need to.Prior to the nook touch, I had the original nook. When I was shopping around, my top two choices were the nook and the kindle. I decided against the kindle because the 1984 incident didn't sit well with me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/tec...
Basically, Amazon sold books they didn't have the rights to, then remotely deleted said books from paying customers' Kindles. That's not something I can put up with.
Wow Steve... that was like reading my own mind. LOL
I remember that incident, it bothered me to.
MrsJ wrote, "And I've lost my phone!!!!!"
Aw, I was wondering why ya didn't reply to me earlier! Dang that sucks, hun. At least iPhone's on AT&T's plan are fairly cheap to replace these days!
Aw, I was wondering why ya didn't reply to me earlier! Dang that sucks, hun. At least iPhone's on AT&T's plan are fairly cheap to replace these days!
I like the Kindle. The Nook is nice as well, but for dedicated e-readers I'd go with one that has an e-ink display and stay away from LCDs like those on an iPad, Nook Color, or a tablet.If you want more than a dedicated e-reader, then a tablet like an iPad (or, preferably, an Android tablet imo), or a Nook color (which can be rooted and basically turned into a tablet) is the way to go.
I'm not getting a tablet, I really have no use for them. Plus I agree with you regarding the LCD screens, they're just not for me.
With aging eyes, I find that the e-ink has too little contrast for comfort. I do most of my e-reading on an iPad or laptop. The back lighting and control over the background lets me optimize the contrast for my vision.
At some point between 6 AM and 11 PM yesterday all of my sideloaded books reverted to "Unshelved" which is making me crazy. I may have just found a reason to root this sucker. Anyone else with a Nook have the same problem? Did they pull their wonderful update without warning or option trick again? (I'm controlling, I know...I have the same sort of rage when Windows restarts my computer in the middle of the night.)
I have the NookColor and I love it. It has different settings for brightness and contrast, so it's generally pretty easy to read, even in the sun. The touchpad makes it really easy to use, and the apps and games and whatnot are great for road trips. I actually found Goodreads through one of those apps. I would never have thought of it otherwise. xPI used to have the original Nook, which was great. It had both the touch screen and the eInk, so it has the good points from each of the other versions. You can even browse the internet if you're patient enough, but the tiny touch screen makes that kind of tricky. I would still be happily using my old one, but I gave it to my dad for Father's Day. One of the other things I like about all of the Nook devices is that when you open the shop there will sometimes be interesting freebies or coupons for free cookies. :D Who doesn't love free cookies?
I tried the Kindle once when I was visiting some cousins. It was okay, but I didn't like the way they had pages set up. They were numbered with these confusing unit things instead, and somehow I kept pressing some weird combination of buttons by accident that would take me to either the front or the back of the book. It wouldn't tell me where I left off. I had to go search for it. I also don't like how Amazon treats authors. There was an incident not too long ago where Amazon decided that it didn't like a few publishers and they decided not to sell any of their books for a couple months. It hurt the authors more than the publishers and left a bad taste in my mouth. I barely even buy textbooks from them anymore.
I bought a Nook STR today. It's...ok I guess. It's cool that it has shelves and the possibility of lending. What's not cool is that it only shows you book location by page number - no percentages. It also doesn't list or notate open books. The home screen is completely worthless. You have to buy a microSD card because internal memory is tiny. I'm taking it back.I plan on ordering a Kobo tomorrow. If I hate the new Kobo then I'm getting an expensive *$)# Sony.
STR? I'm not familiar with the shorthand.
Denae wrote: "STR? I'm not familiar with the shorthand."Simple Touch Reader
Ah, makes sense. Sucks that it didn't work out for you. *hugs*
Should I get a:
New Kobo Touch: http://www.kobobooks.com/touch
or a
New B&N Nook STR: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/fe...
I do know that the nook has lendables (which are cool) and the Kobo does not BUT I do have handful of books from Kobo.
Help!