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[Marc]

That whole Ayn Rand thing seems limited to the US. She just doesn't rate any significance over here in the UK. We're aware of her, but unmoved by the passions both pro & con she seems to evoke.

[Gingerlily - The Full Wild]

I would think you should give lions a miss too...

[Michael]

Creatures of Appetite

I've just finished Creatures of Appetite by Todd Travis, it's a decent thriller about a very nasty serial killer.

http://thecultofme.blogspot.co.uk/201...

[Jud]

I finished sleepers. Was very good although at times the mum just pissed me off for acting stupid. Kept making me think of Steven kings the stand With the post apocalyptic religious element in it

[Stuart]

Just finished Ballet of the Bones. Loved it. Quarter of the way through Ulysses and loving every mad word of it so far!

[Michael]

Stuart wrote: "Just finished Ballet of the Bones. Loved it. Quarter of the way through Ulysses and loving every mad word of it so far!"

I enjoyed Ballet of the Bones a lot.

[Marc]

Michael wrote: "Creatures of Appetite

I've just finished Creatures of Appetite by Todd Travis, it's a decent thriller about a very nasty serial killer.

http://thecultofme.blogspot.co.uk/201...-..."

um is there a type of serial killer who isn't essentially nasty? :-)

[Kath]

Some of us are delightful. We just can't stand cornflakes. Ah... SERIAL.

[Karen]

Stuart wrote: "Just finished Ballet of the Bones. Loved it. Quarter of the way through Ulysses and loving every mad word of it so far!"

Ulysses is one I hardly started! and as it was a library book, I could see a lot of other people had taken it out and not read it either (it was still in pristine condition - no bacon rasher bookmarks or mysterious blobs and stray hairs... )
Think it is probably the most famous unread book.

[Jud]

I read it and didn't understand a word of it

[Stuart]

I'm not saying I'm understanding it, Jud - just loving it. As far as I can tell it seems like a collection of snippets of random thoughts and observations that go through our minds all the time when we're wandering around. James Joyce just happens to have written them down. I find it fascinating and massively inspirational. Certainly makes me feel even more that there are no boundaries in writing!

[Jud]

Have you got to the absinthe induced court case yet?

I enjoyed that bit but had no idea what was going on.

[Jonathan]

Just started The Virgin Suicides as I have temporarily ground to a halt with Jude the Obscure

[Stuart]

Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "Have you got to the absinthe induced court case yet?

I enjoyed that bit but had no idea what was going on."

Not yet Jud.But just the idea of it sounds fantastic!

[Richard]

Marc wrote: "That whole Ayn Rand thing seems limited to the US. She just doesn't rate any significance over here in the UK. We're aware of her, but unmoved by the passions both pro & con she seems to evoke."

Yeah, I'm in the UK as well. I just thought I'd give it a try to see what all the fuss was about. Still not sure.

[Richard]

Stuart wrote: "Just finished Ballet of the Bones. Loved it. Quarter of the way through Ulysses and loving every mad word of it so far!"

For me, Ulysses is the greatest book ever written*. I didn't understand all of it, but that didn't detract from its genius.






* Well, it comes a close second to mine, obviously.

[Richard]

Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "I read it and didn't understand a word of it"

You should try Finnegans Wake. After I read Ulysses I was really looking forward to it. I waded through the first page. And then waded through it again. Then double checked that I hadn't ordered the Ukrainian edition by mistake. Then tried the first page again. Then put it back on the shelf.

[Jud]

I'm off to open the sample on Amazon

[Richard]

Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "I'm off to open the sample on Amazon"

Please do not adjust your computer.

[Jud]

Ah, I see what you mean

[Jonathan]

I've just looked too. The introduction looks enough to put me off for now!

[Stuart]

Richard wrote: "Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "I read it and didn't understand a word of it"

You should try Finnegans Wake. After I read Ulysses I was really looking forward to it. I waded through the first page. And ..."

Will do! The fact that my books are already a little 'out there' shall we say and that I'm reading Ulysses whilst finishing the final book in my trilogy... hmmm it could spell the end of my fledgling career!

[Marc]

Stuart wrote: "I'm not saying I'm understanding it, Jud - just loving it. As far as I can tell it seems like a collection of snippets of random thoughts and observations that go through our minds all the time whe..."

while not holding myself up to the master, much of my writing is stream of consciousness or internal monologue.

And though I've never read it, Finegan's Wake is all about the language I believe.

[Stuart]

stream of consciousness and internal monolgues are my favourite styles. I love Jack Kerouac and of course James Joyce. Now I will check out yours Marc!

[Stuart]

Which of yours do you recommend I begin with?

[Jim]

Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "Ah, I see what you mean"

Same here, I went, looked, read half of the first page and decided that life was too short

[Kath]

Language is a tool of communication. You can have fun with it, be frivolous, playful. If you're not telling anyone anything though, it's just self-indulgent.

[Stuart]

Good point! Like a joke only the teller understands!

[Kath]

Oh, I've heard a few of them in me time!

[Richard]

Marc wrote: "And though I've never read it, Finegan's Wake is all about the language I believe."

Don't get me wrong. It's a work of genius. The fact that I'm not clever enough to understand it isn't Joyce's fault. It isn't just about the language, it's about the structure as well. For example, the book starts with the second half of a sentence and ends with the first half of the same sentence. I've read that you can start reading the book at any point and when you get to the end you can just carry on with the first sentence and carry on up to the point where you started.

The problem is that I'm not sure it even counts as stream of consciousness. The whole 600 pages are made up of Joyce's own invented words (some of which are taken from languages like Polish and Persian), puns and anagrams. Almost every single word.

[Stuart]

Sounds amazing!!!!

[Jim]

Stuart wrote: "Sounds amazing!!!!"

Alas I wasn't amazed

[Lorraine]

Just finished Heartsick,was really good.I didn't work out who had done it until a couple of pages before the author made the reveal.Looking forward to the next one.Just starting Alone.

[Mago]

Stuart wrote: "Good point! Like a joke only the teller understands!"

A chap goes into a sweet shop and asks the person behind the counter for a punnet of mackerel: "Will that be fourpence or twopence you'll be spending?" asked the shop assistant. "It matters not", replied he, "I'm on my bike."

A touch of modernist humour for you there ;)

[Mago]

It would have been postmodernist but I can't remember the name of the book he had, or may not have had, in his saddlebag.

[Stuart]

Brilliant!

[Marc]

Stuart wrote: "Which of yours do you recommend I begin with?"

ha, hard to say! A B and E is in the internal monologue category. 52FF is a language-led flash fiction collection.

Hope that helps!

[Marc]

Richard wrote: "Marc wrote: "And though I've never read it, Finegan's Wake is all about the language I believe."

Don't get me wrong. It's a work of genius. The fact that I'm not clever enough to understand it isn..."

sorry, that's what I meant by it being more about language than storytelling.

There's a book by B.S.Johnson (can't remember which one) that comes in a box with loose leaves. You read the opening chapter and then you can read any of the other chapters (except the final one) in whatever order you fancy.

[Marc]

Mago (Mark) wrote: "Stuart wrote: "Good point! Like a joke only the teller understands!"

A chap goes into a sweet shop and asks the person behind the counter for a punnet of mackerel: "Will that be fourpence or twope..."

Postmodernist I'd hazard! :-)

[Stuart]

Marc wrote: "Stuart wrote: "Which of yours do you recommend I begin with?"

ha, hard to say! A B and E is in the internal monologue category. 52FF is a language-led flash fiction collection.

Hope that helps!"

Having read the 1 star review on goodreads for A,B and E I have purchased it on the spot. That woman should be your publicist!

[Marc]

Stuart wrote: "Marc wrote: "Stuart wrote: "Which of yours do you recommend I begin with?"

ha, hard to say! A B and E is in the internal monologue category. 52FF is a language-led flash fiction collection.

Hope ..."

ha ha ha. I got a similar one for one of my flash collections, which said it was just a load of words to them, which I thought was a pretty fair summation of all literature!

[Jim]

Stuart wrote: "
Having read the 1 star review on goodreads for A,B and E I have purchased it on the spot. That woman should be your publicist! ..."

It did strike me as a very thoughtful and positive 1 star review.
Hire her ;-)

[Kath]

Just finished a short book - 76 pages, I think it said, which was a great laugh. I had a problem with a couple of formatting issues but it's well worth a look at.
Campaign of the Gods

Just about to start Alex

[Jud]

I started and finished guaranteed justice. It was awesome!

[Gingerlily - The Full Wild]

Mago (Mark) wrote: "It would have been postmodernist but I can't remember the name of the book he had, or may not have had, in his saddlebag."

A Schroedinger book?

[Kath]

The cat ate it.

[Richard]

Ignite wrote: "The cat ate it."

Did you look?

[Marc]

Gingerlily (or Cyberlily..) wrote: "Mago (Mark) wrote: "It would have been postmodernist but I can't remember the name of the book he had, or may not have had, in his saddlebag."

A Schroedinger book?"

written one of those as well :-)

[Marc]

Ignite wrote: "The cat ate it."

only in one reality...

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Thanks Jud, I Am persevering as I seem to have given up on too many books recently. Am up to 82% now