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message 1: by Sorin (new)

Sorin I like this genre and I think that Weber could be a good writer at times, but he is, as many reviewers pointed on various sites, extremely long winded and fascinated by political machinations in a way in which a historian or political scientist should be, not a writer. I wonder if in your opinion there are other books of the same genre (technoreversionary sci fi) that are at the same time great fiction. I mean fiction that deals with human issues in a sensible and enlightening way without being preachy or too wrapped up in the mind games of what if scenarios to forget what the true vocation of novel is: to tell engaging stories about human transformation.


Hélène I don't know if I understand what you exactly mean by "technoreversionary sci fi" but perhaps Island in the Sea of Time by S.M. Stirling would fit the definition. Fact is McCaffrey Anne's Pern Saga and Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover Novels could be listed there too! Different atmosphere though...


Keith I have to dissagree with Sorin, I think Weber is a very good author. The thought of going into the past and giving technology to those there is very interesting to me. This book has a different storyline to it but not one that is any less interesting. Last time I checked Stephen King, and Robert Jordan, both of which are extremely long winded, are accounted as two of the best in their genres.This book needs the description to make it work. It really works for me. Off Armageddon Reef is worth the read.


Travis I just finished reading all 6 books in this saga, and though I did find the long winded sections a bit tiring sometimes, I just couldn't put the books down! I especially loved the very descriptive naval sections in the books. All in all, I will surely revisit these books in the future!


Mike Franklin I found the early books fine but the most recent I read - A Mighty Fortress - was, I felt, getting bogged down in long conversations on politics at the expense of almost any kind of action. I have found Weber seems to have moved farther and farther in this direction as the years have gone on. His early Honor Harrington books are great military action SF but his later HH books are once again filled with long winded in-depth political discussions. I suspect, as he has become more famous, he can take more control of the editing of his books. I also suspect the publishers would have loved to streamline his later books a lot more than Weber has (or hasn't) done.


Jjab Eric flint's 1632 universe is similar theme. I've read most of them and they are pretty good.


message 7: by Azhrey (last edited Jul 21, 2013 03:27AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Azhrey I like Safehold series and I agree with the fact that it can get a little bit long winded with some facts especially how some actions influence some people who then do the same thing and then it starts a whole domino effect. It can be annoying at times but, compared with other books I read it's kind of better this way. At least you can find the reason or reasons or influences that drove some people to do some decisions, so those decisions won't be so weird and wild and it make the story and especialy the world of the story more dinamic and chaotic. Real life is not so order and coordinated.

Also I read the 1632 univerve (well most of it... all the books but not all the Gazettes) It's a HUGE universe considering the the whole universe only spans around 8 years or so of action, but it's nice extremely entertaining at least for me. I recommend both of them.


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