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message 51: by Cambria (new)

Cambria (cambria409) | 3305 comments Yeah find and replace is not the thing for me....one time it took out every single "p" in my manuscript. Yeah that was a nightmare. I will never use that feature again. LOL


message 52: by Katy (new)

Katy (katyas-69) | 603 comments Well, it CAN be VERY useful, as long as you do NOT select "Find and Replace All" ... :-)


message 53: by J.A. (new)

J.A. Clement (jaclement) | 1328 comments Yep - thought I was safe with a name but it seems not!

Cambria, every p?! Nice....
heheheh
JAC


message 54: by Phil (new)

Phil Cantrill | 313 comments Cambria wrote: "Yeah find and replace is not the thing for me....one time it took out every single "p" in my manuscript. Yeah that was a nightmare. I will never use that feature again. LOL"

J.A. wrote: "Yep - thought I was safe with a name but it seems not!

Cambria, every p?! Nice....
heheheh
JAC"


Cambria, that must have been painful. LOL


message 55: by J.A. (new)

J.A. Clement (jaclement) | 1328 comments That's what I thought, hil.
;oD


message 56: by Keryl (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments Cambria wrote: "Yeah find and replace is not the thing for me....one time it took out every single "p" in my manuscript. Yeah that was a nightmare. I will never use that feature again. LOL"

I gotta know, how on earth did you get it to do that?

I'll second the very useful feature, but never, ever, just blanket find/replace.

Also, the highlight feature is a good tool if you've got something you want to be able to really see in your own work. And don't want to risk accidentally removing every example of it.


message 57: by Dale (new)

Dale Ibitz (goodreadscomdale_ibitz) | 298 comments I recently read a book where the author consistently used "kinda" "wanna" and "gotta". It really got on my nerves and was annoying to read...even though most people do speak that way, I don't want to see it in writing!


message 58: by Keryl (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments Dale wrote: "I recently read a book where the author consistently used "kinda" "wanna" and "gotta". It really got on my nerves and was annoying to read...even though most people do speak that way, I don't want ..."

See, I'd use any of those words in a heartbeat if it fit the way my character spoke. But I'd only use them in dialog. I don't want the third person narrator speaking like that.


message 59: by Cambria (new)

Cambria (cambria409) | 3305 comments Katy wrote: "Well, it CAN be VERY useful, as long as you do NOT select "Find and Replace All" ... :-)"

LOL!!


message 60: by Cambria (new)

Cambria (cambria409) | 3305 comments Phil wrote: "Cambria wrote: "Yeah find and replace is not the thing for me....one time it took out every single "p" in my manuscript. Yeah that was a nightmare. I will never use that feature again. LOL"

J.A. ..."


Yes it was painful....it was my MG novel that I recently gave a copy of that I had in the cabinet to my daughter to read. One night she said...there are some letters missing mom....I'll pencil them in for you.

LOL!!!


message 61: by Cambria (last edited Jul 13, 2011 06:24PM) (new)

Cambria (cambria409) | 3305 comments I think it must have been the rough copy...but makes me want to go in and check it out just to be sure....LOL

IT HAUNTS ME!!!!


message 62: by Amy Eye (new)

Amy Eye | 1841 comments Mod
Keryl wrote: "Dale wrote: "I recently read a book where the author consistently used "kinda" "wanna" and "gotta". It really got on my nerves and was annoying to read...even though most people do speak that way, ..."

Depending on the POV of the narrator, it could be used, I would prefer not to see it, but it could be appropriate depending on the style.


message 63: by Cassie (new)

Cassie McCown (cassie629) | 713 comments Since reading a lot of Amanda Hocking, the phrase "come with" is extremely irritating to me. Hopefully her new editor shares my sentiments! ;-)


message 64: by Keryl (last edited Jul 14, 2011 06:21AM) (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments Amy wrote: "Keryl wrote: "Dale wrote: "I recently read a book where the author consistently used "kinda" "wanna" and "gotta". It really got on my nerves and was annoying to read...even though most people do sp..."

I guess it's a voice thing.

Good use of kinda:

"Well Bob, you know, it looked kinda like a Ford F150, except it was a turtle."
"Huh? Really?"
"Really. Scariest damn turtle I ever seen!"

Bad use of kinda:

It lumbered through the backyard, slow ponderous step by slow ponderous step. In this light, as the sun dipped below the treeline, it looked kinda red, the shell shellacked and shiny. Though he was close to one hundred feet away, Bob thought the patterns of shadows on the shell looked like F150. He gazed at the turtle for a long minute as it crept to the underbrush, rubbed his eyes, and thought maybe he'd had a bit more to drink than was strictly necessary.


message 65: by Book (new)

Book (t_bookchick) | 14 comments Cassie wrote: "Since reading a lot of Amanda Hocking, the phrase "come with" is extremely irritating to me. Hopefully her new editor shares my sentiments! ;-)"

lol I agree! It's funny you said that because I recently finished one of her series' and was so irritated by that!!!


message 66: by Book (new)

Book (t_bookchick) | 14 comments Keryl wrote: "Amy wrote: "Keryl wrote: "Dale wrote: "I recently read a book where the author consistently used "kinda" "wanna" and "gotta". It really got on my nerves and was annoying to read...even though most ..."

Nice. That is a really, really, bad use of "kinda"


message 67: by Cambria (new)

Cambria (cambria409) | 3305 comments That is a bad use of Kinda! Thanks for the example and I agree with the phrase from Amanda Hocking....I do hope she gets some better editing now that she has backing.


message 68: by Keryl (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments How is she using "come with"?

Like: "Come with me!" "Do fries come with that?"


message 69: by Katy (new)

Katy (katyas-69) | 603 comments T.M. wrote: "Cassie wrote: "Since reading a lot of Amanda Hocking, the phrase "come with" is extremely irritating to me. Hopefully her new editor shares my sentiments! ;-)"

lol I agree! It's funny you said t..."


Is she from Minnesota or North Dakota by any chance? That's as common a phrase up there as "fixin' to" is here in Georgia. :-) But those sorts of things should NOT be used in narrative writing unless it fits the dialogue of the character!


message 70: by Katy (new)

Katy (katyas-69) | 603 comments Keryl wrote: "How is she using "come with"?

Like: "Come with me!" "Do fries come with that?""


Probably like this: "I'm going to the mall - you wanna come with?"

Again, common in the NDak, MN, WI area


message 71: by Cassie (new)

Cassie McCown (cassie629) | 713 comments She is from Minnesota, isn't she?

Yes, it is like, "Are you coming with?"

I'm from Alabama, but that doesn't mean everything I write has to be full of y'all, fixin' to, ain't, ya hear, etc... LOL Even in dialogue, it can be dreadfully overused...


message 72: by Keryl (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments See, this is another case where the find function is your friend. I write with a very British tone, my characters, however, don't speak that way. So I went through and found all the rathers, bits, quiets, buggers, etc... and cut most of them out. This also let me see how often I used took, such, realize, & and. It was a good way to get a good feel for how often I used phrases.


message 73: by J.A. (new)

J.A. Clement (jaclement) | 1328 comments Hahaha we use "come with" in London too, occasionally but have probably picked it up from some American show or other!

Keryl, I found that my characters are always turning and sighing, so often I suspect in real life they'd be dizzy and nauseous. Prime "find" material methinks!!
JAC


message 74: by Katy (new)

Katy (katyas-69) | 603 comments J.A. wrote: "Hahaha we use "come with" in London too, occasionally but have probably picked it up from some American show or other!

Keryl, I found that my characters are always turning and sighing, so often ..."


I loved Kristen Britain's (I might have spelled her name wrong, but am too lazy to check) Green Rider series, but EVERYONE in the books licked their lips constantly. The people from her book ALONE would keep Chapstick in business for years ... it got rather annoying ...

@Keryl - I love reading books that sound "British," personally. I'm always annoyed when we 'mericans are "provided" "Americanized" British books - like we can't figure out what a lift is ... *rolls eyes* (and yea, I DO roll my eyes, so :-P Hehehehe)


message 75: by Cassie (new)

Cassie McCown (cassie629) | 713 comments Katy wrote: "J.A. wrote: "Hahaha we use "come with" in London too, occasionally but have probably picked it up from some American show or other!

Keryl, I found that my characters are always turning and sighing..."


How many people who read this post licked their lips?? LOL It's kind of like a yawn... (Now, how many of you yawned?) ;-)


message 76: by Keryl (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments Katy wrote: @Keryl - I love reading books that sound "British," personally. I'm always annoyed when we 'mericans are "provided" "Americanized" British books - like we can't figure out what a lift is ... *rolls eyes* (and yea, I DO roll my eyes, so :-P Hehehehe)

I love Brit fic, too. I read it. I write it. I watch it on TV. I've steeped myself in it so fully that I've run into something of a problem: my US characters don't always sound right.

Since I was born, raised, and have lived my entire life in the US, you'd think this shouldn't be a problem, but the language we think in is pervasive. Words and phrases that are, at best, uncommon to Americans (dust bin for trash can or candy floss for cotton candy) creep into my work and have to be exorcized.


message 77: by C.S. Splitter (new)

C.S. Splitter | 979 comments @ Cassie

Well I didn't NOTICE I was licking my lips until YOU brought it up lol. Didn't yawn though.

Splitter


message 78: by Amy Eye (new)

Amy Eye | 1841 comments Mod
I didn't lick my lips, but I did notice how dry they were. Then after I read Splitter's comment, I licked them because they then began to bother me. I'm way to open to the power of suggestion...NO YAWNING THOUGH!!

@ Keryl - I think that is so funny! I'm thinking you may be needing a good trip to England for a bit and soak in a bit more of your favorite environment!! :)


message 79: by C.S. Splitter (new)

C.S. Splitter | 979 comments I play the yawning game with my dog sometimes. She lays on my chest and I fake yawn until she yawns. Once she gets going she can't stop. It's funny to me because her jaw will shake as she tries to resist It's not just humans :).

Splitter


message 80: by Amy Eye (new)

Amy Eye | 1841 comments Mod
You should get video of that!! It would be so cute!!


message 81: by Keryl (new)

Keryl Raist (kerylraist) | 89 comments Amy wrote: @ Keryl - I think that is so funny! I'm thinking you may be needing a good trip to England for a bit and soak in a bit more of your favorite environment!! :)

One of these days, when the boys are a bit older... England, Scotland, Wales, Isle of Man we'll see them all!


message 82: by C.S. Splitter (new)

C.S. Splitter | 979 comments Amy wrote: "You should get video of that!! It would be so cute!!"

It would be, but when the camera comes out, she gets weird. It's like she is expecting a flash and just zones out. or she just wants her best side photographed, we're not sure.

:)

Splitter


message 83: by Amy Eye (new)

Amy Eye | 1841 comments Mod
Must be something with all kids (I consider my dogs - all three of them - my kids). Whenever they see a camera come out, they never act the way they were 10 seconds before. One of the cool things about the video feature on my phone. They think mommy is just texting, when, in fact, I'm building a blackmail folder! :)


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