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S&L Podcast - #67 - Previously, on A Song of Ice and Fire...
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Shame on you, Tom. You and your elipses!
Steven Gould's Big Idea article on Scalzi:http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/07/05...
Was Jumper good?
Troika is a novella isn't it?
Not sure why you did a "previously on" with A Feast for Crows. Events in AFFC happen in the same time period as A Dance with Dragons. I think ADWD is concentrating on the characters that weren't in AFFC.
I didn't know that the guy impersonating Pate was Jaqen Hgar. Am i the only one?
Machavelli wrote: "I didn't know that the guy impersonating Pate was Jaqen Hgar. Am i the only one?"No. I seem to miss a lot of things. Either it's me reading too fast or I'm just stupid sometimes.
Alex wrote: "Not sure why you did a "previously on" with A Feast for Crows. Events in AFFC happen in the same time period as A Dance with Dragons. I think ADWD is concentrating on the characters that weren't in..."I'm pretty sure that Martin has said that contrary to his original plan we will be catching up with some of the characters who were in AFFC.
Anne wrote: No. I seem to miss a lot of things. Either it's me reading too fast or I'm just stupid sometimes."I knew it was one of those from the House of Black and White but i don't think it was Jaqen, and even if it is how does that guy in the podcast know that? I have read it twice and i am pretty sure it was not mentioned in the book.
@Kate I certainly hope you're right. I'd hate to have to wait for the next book to hear anything from Arya, Sansa, Sam, and Jamie.
Tamahome wrote: "Troika is a novella isn't it?"107 pages.
Machavelli wrote: "Anne wrote: No. I seem to miss a lot of things. Either it's me reading too fast or I'm just stupid sometimes."I knew it was one of those from the House of Black and White but i don't think it was..."
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I'm tempted to just go read the site that puts everything in order and skip reading books 2-5. ;)
Jenny wrote: "I'm tempted to just go read the site that puts everything in order and skip reading books 2-5. ;)"That's pretty much what I'm doing. I read the first three when they came out, but after the fiasco with A Feast for Crows/A Dance with Dragons, I just can't bring myself to care anymore. If Martin ever actually finishes the series and the reviews are good, I might buy the remaining books, but I'm not shelling out money for a series that might never be finished, not when there's plenty of other stuff I can be reading.
Thanks for doing the catch up on GoT as I am not reading the stories but like to know what the talk is about. I am not spoiler adverse but you guys do a great job for those that are. Can't wait for Ghost Stories to come out in 2 weeks. All ready pre ordered.
Tamahome wrote: "Was Jumper good?"
I found Jumper to be a very very depressing book. Its mostly about a young man dealing with his fathers physical abuse and alcoholism. The main character uses his "gift" to help him escape his situation but eventually still has to come to grips with the horrors of his past. I can't say I enjoyed it but I wouldn't say it was a bad book. It just wasn't what I was expecting. I was hoping for something more fun and the book's subject matter was too heavy to be a fun book.
Who is Gregor Cleburn? (25:58)character name does not compute.
Colin wrote: "Who is Gregor Cleburn? (25:58)character name does not compute."
Gregor Clegane aka The Mountain.
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character name does not compute."
Gregor Clegane aka The Mountain."
Yeah, I have no idea why it was written that way (or why I said it that way). Tom wrote out the notes though, so once again I'm blaming him.
For Hodor, Tom would probably put: 'Theodore Hodorosky'.
Tamahome wrote: "For Hodor, Tom would probably put: 'Theodore Hodorosky'."I love El Topo and Magic Mountain, but Fando y Lis leaves me cold.
I have a fun idea for a sound effect but no patience to make it. But doesn't someone want to make a HODOR angry crowd sound effect? Maybe for barrier/bare your sword?
Ha ha "Myrkella", i pronounce it Mirsella.
It's "Throat-warbler Mangrove," dammit!
*^_^*So since it's now been on the podcast and is now S&L canon, I assume this means I must update about the Machine of Death submission when I get my rejection/acceptance, right? Really I'm stoked about either result. :D They said people would know by October 31st.
I was also in the middle of a sip of coffee when my name came up so suddenly in the podcast. Coffee burns in the nose, and causes co-workers to laugh! Eek!
Sean wrote: "Jenny wrote: "I'm tempted to just go read the site that puts everything in order and skip reading books 2-5. ;)"That's pretty much what I'm doing. I read the first three when they came out, but ..."
After listening to the podcast I found my hardback copy of A Feast for Crows just to double check I had read it before because the reminder read out by Tom and Veronica showed me that I had forgotten everything. Looking on the back cover I found the usual 'celebrity endorsements' of the book. One of them said ' Grabs hold and won't let go. It's brilliant!' Ironically and poignantly the quote is from Robert Jordan.
Alex wrote: "@Kate I certainly hope you're right. I'd hate to have to wait for the next book to hear anything from Arya, Sansa, Sam, and Jamie."Jo Walton has a spoiler free review of Tor.com that says (and I'm going to put spoiler tags around it anyway for those who a spoiler-sensitive)(view spoiler)
Full review at http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/wint...
I'm listening right now and man, do I feel lost. Can't wait for book, wish it was coming out on a Friday so I could stay up all night reading.
Chilimac wrote: "I'm listening right now and man, do I feel lost. Can't wait for book, wish it was coming out on a Friday so I could stay up all night reading."Especially since I have plans on Tuesday and I'm pretty sure Paul Simon won't postpone his concert because I have to read a book.
wouldn't it be good to make the alternative a scifi work. Have we read Fuzzy Nation yet or even Little Fuzzy?
Vikz wrote: "wouldn't it be good to make the alternative a scifi work. Have we read Fuzzy Nation yet or even Little Fuzzy?"I'd be up for that idea! Or a Charles Stross, who has been on my to-read list for a year.
Charles Stross has a new one: Rule 34 . Only one of my local stores stocks it. I think it's in 2nd person.
Kris wrote: "I like Stross's Halting State which I believe is the same characters for his newest book..."You immediately go to the bookstore, put down your hard-earned money and you start reading the sequel. As you turn the pages, you squeal with delight.
Tamahome wrote: "Kris wrote: "I like Stross's Halting State which I believe is the same characters for his newest book..."You immediately go to the bookstore, put down your hard-earned money and you..."
I can't wait to experience that wonderful sound...
Is there a link for the summary of Feast for Crows that was discussed during the re-cap portion of the podcast? Like many others, I did not remember quite more than I realized, a few of things that seem pretty significant. I would like to read the summary a few times before ADwD-Day.
I'm a bit sad. I just realized that next week starts some intense craziness for me at work. I powered through books 1-4 in a re-read and finished this past weekend. Unfortunately, looking ahead, I might have a hard time finishing ADWD in a timely manner. :\
Tamahome wrote: "Charles Stross has a new one: Rule 34 . Only one of my local stores stocks it. I think it's in 2nd person."Isn't rule 34 the one about if a thing exists on the Internet there will be porn of it? Suddenly I want to read this book.
Aw geez, now I have a rule 34 of fuzzy nation being read by wil Wheaton in my head. Thanks, this thread.
Veronica wrote: "Fixed! It was the damn elipses that Tom put on the file name (see how I turned that around on him?)"If Tom had a World of Warcraft toon I bet it's name would have one of those funky accents over one of the characters that would require that he message you first before you could add him to your friends list. This is part of the reason I have no friends with accents in their characters names on my WOW friend lists.
China Miéville is known to mess up rss feeds.
If you haven't seen it, we now have a poll for an alternate selection for those of us not reading ADwD.
Jim Garrison wrote: "Isn't rule 34 the one about if a thing exists on the Internet there will be porn of it? Suddenly I want to read this book."That's the one and not only is it written in second person it's from multiple POVs. He writes each character with such a unique voice you shouldn't get lost often. Plus, the POV character is listed in the chapter heading. I get more lost in the Scottish slang. I'm about halfway through the book and am enjoying it. Lots of geeky, internet humor. I'm not sure it's necessary to know internet memes to enjoy the book but it sure would help. I don't recommend reading it while planking, that's just not safe.
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Books mentioned in this topic
Jumper (other topics)Halting State (other topics)
Little Fuzzy (other topics)
Rule 34 (other topics)
Fuzzy Nation (other topics)
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