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message 1: by Velma (new) - added it

Velma (velmalikevelvet) | 61 comments The series information for this title is very complex, and I don't want to 'break' it, so I'd like a super librarian or other expert librarian to please fix the series info.

This edition, ISBN-10 068417653X / ISBN-13 9780684176536, titled The Forsyte Saga, includes ALL 5 titles in The Forsyte Saga Series (not to be confused with The Forsyte Chronicles Series; I do not know how this title fits in to that series), NOT just volumes 1 & 2 as indicated on the GR page.

I believe that what is required to fix this is:

1) remove the edition from 'The Forsyte Saga #1 and #2' list which it is currently in; and
2) add it to 'The Forsyte Saga #1-#3' list

It appears that there are currently two 'The Forsyte Saga #1-3' lists; I believe there should be two different 1-3 lists: one that includes Vol. 1.5 and Vol. 2.5, in addition to Vols. 1-3, and one that does not.

Is this clear as mud? I thought so. This is why I'm hoping someone with more expertise than I possess will step in and detangle (or, I suppose, de-mud) this problem.

Thank you.


message 2: by Empress (last edited May 17, 2015 03:13AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) According to Worldcat this title contains the first three books, not 5.

Looking at the series it is 3 novels and 2 novellas.

If books are marked as 1-3 this indicates volumes 1,2 and 3 without the non main books (1.5 and 2.5, which should be indicated differently) Non main books that are usually not ticked are mostly short stories and the hole series can be read even if skipping those.


Now I can see two book 1 to 3 so I see what do you mean about the 1.5 and 2.5. I'll post again when I look into the books. I might not be able to help though - as you say things are clear like mud.



EDIT:

I've dealt with that one edition and left notes on some of the rest as to what books they contain, however I think you need to look at the librarian log for the series and contact the previous librarians that worked on them, as they will have better knowledge of the series.
I think it is a matter of checking content for editions as the titles are not obvious.

Also looking at the series notes it seems both series are slightly different.


I've combined some loose books, separated others. However a lot are not obvious. Some volumes such as volume 2 would contain books 1.5 and 2, or only book 1.5, so each edition has to be checked.


message 3: by Empress (last edited May 17, 2015 05:27AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) Ok,

I'm done for now, did about 1% of the work. I'll appreciate someone else taking a look as well.

This is what I figured but it is not the Rule:

Vol. I seems to be book 1 (But in some cases all 3 main books)
Vol. 2 in most cases is books 1.5 and 2
Vol. 3 in most cases is books 2.5 and 3.

Additional confusion comes that the 'saga' and the 'chronicles' books can carry the same title (such as The Fortsyte Saga: Vol III), but they can be different series (or at least I found some wrongly combined)

I've also separated and created this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...

Left notes wherever possible, or fixed the titles so the content is more obvious.


message 4: by Velma (last edited May 23, 2015 03:43PM) (new) - added it

Velma (velmalikevelvet) | 61 comments Thanks for starting this process; what a miasma, and after reading your posts, I'm even more happy that I didn't get involved.

Can you please merge https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... (ISBN 9780684176536) into https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1... - it is "complete", ie, contains all 3 novels and both novellas, as indicated in the description (which I took directly from the cover of the edition I have).

Thanks again.


message 5: by Empress (last edited May 23, 2015 03:55PM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) NEVER trust the description.

Up until few weeks ago the website used to set default description when combining edition, some users will still set such description. That will overwrite all other edition's descriptions.

For the edition that you have linked I have left a librarian note with this link: http://www.worldcat.org/title/forsyte...
The edition actually contains only the 3 main books. Unless a user can confirm that content is the full series or there is another proof of this I will not be combining into the "full" edition.

Fixed description.


message 6: by Velma (new) - added it

Velma (velmalikevelvet) | 61 comments You misunderstood: I posted the description myself. It is not a default, it is drawn directly from my personal copy of the edition in question.

It contains the following (from the table of contents):

The Man of Property (Book 1)
Indian Summer of a Forsyte (interlude 1 or novella 1 or Book 1.5)
In Chancery (Book II)
Awakening (interlude 2 or novella 2 or Book 2.5)
To Let (Book III)

Those are the same volumes that you've listed in the series you linked to, so I understand why this edition cannot be merged into the appropriate entry now that it has been created.


message 7: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) I did misunderstood. I wasn't aware that you have an edition of it and Worldcat claimed it was 3 books. I try not to make changes based solely on descriptions/titles.

Recombined with the appropriate edition.


message 8: by Velma (new) - added it

Velma (velmalikevelvet) | 61 comments I guess the lesson here is:

NEVER trust the description.

Even Worldcat.

Thanks for your help.


message 9: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) Velma wrote: "I guess the lesson here is:

NEVER trust the description.

Even Worldcat.

Thanks for your help."


True. The best is to have the book in your hand.


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