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Me: Oh, do The Cask of Armontillado. There's plenty of complexity in that. You could do plot, or character, or even irony--all would yield an interesting paper. Montresor, the main character, could be discussed at length, and so could the plot, the walling up of the drunken Fortunato. The irony of it? We all know that Fortunato is getting murdered--but he himself doesn't realize until its too late.
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Me: Unfortunately I can't do POV with irony because we already discussed it in class. :( That's a really good one
Me: You don't have to do point of view, you can discuss Poe's use of dramatic irony used throughout the piece. If not, you could write on the plot (Montresor's perceived insult and then his murdering of his friend) or, if not, you could write about Monstresor himself. There are so many wonderful assumptions one can make about him.
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Me: And dramatic irony is when you know something te character doesn't, right?
Hmm as far as plot I could write about the climax of the story when Montressor suddenly chains Fortunado to the manhole in the wall.
Hmm as far as plot I could write about the climax of the story when Montressor suddenly chains Fortunado to the manhole in the wall.
Me: Yes.
Right. And you could go on to mention how it pretty much goes downhill from there, with Fortunato gradually growing more frenzied and Monstresor keeping himself deep in a kind of dreamlike calm.
Right. And you could go on to mention how it pretty much goes downhill from there, with Fortunato gradually growing more frenzied and Monstresor keeping himself deep in a kind of dreamlike calm.
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Me: I was also considering setting for the story Chickamaugua if I can't do Poe, but I really like that. Ever heard of it?
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Me: It's. Story about a death mute child who you don't know is death mute until the end. He goes to play war in the woods and comes across a real army whom are barely alive. Still thinking its a game, the boy leads the men to a large bonfire which ends up being his own home and the boy finds his mother dead with her brains leaking out. If I wanted to do setting and irony then I could point out that the title would have to be changed (Chickamaugua is the city whet civil war battles were held) and how there would be no irony where the boy would discover how gruesome real war is by "playing war".
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*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) wrote: "Me: It's. Story about a death mute child who you don't know is death mute until the end. He goes to play war in the woods and comes across a real army whom are barely alive. Still thinking its a ga..."
Me: Hmmm. Either works.
Me: Hmmm. Either works.
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Me: And I think that's situational irony, but I'm not sure and I think I like TCOA better. I'll try that out then. So we're talking about the climax of amontillado and how it causes the edit of the book to go downhill as far as how the characters react to the gruesome murder...? That sounds good? I always hate putting together beginnings of sentences.
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Me: Okay so then the beginning sentence could be something like;
Climax is the part in a story where the rising action takes place, affecting how the resolution or denouement turns out. In this case, the climax of The Cask of Amontillado, written by Edgar Allen Poe is when our main character, Montressor, shackles his friend Fortunado to his fate in a manhole in the Montressor crypt.
That sound good? Thanks for helping me this is better for me Whn j talk about what I'll write before I do so.
Climax is the part in a story where the rising action takes place, affecting how the resolution or denouement turns out. In this case, the climax of The Cask of Amontillado, written by Edgar Allen Poe is when our main character, Montressor, shackles his friend Fortunado to his fate in a manhole in the Montressor crypt.
That sound good? Thanks for helping me this is better for me Whn j talk about what I'll write before I do so.
Me: That's fine Silvy, just fine. But the names are spelled Montresor and Fortunato. One 's' in Monstresor and a 't', not an 'n', in Fortunato.
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Me: Do you think it would be safe to say that both characters are dynamic characters in the end? The way that Montresor acts so calm listening to the death of his friend and Fortunato changes by becoming frantic before he dies? They're not exactly dynamic characters, but after the climax their personalities change slightly... Hmmm
Me: Perhaps, perhaps. Though Montresor's calm is completely justified as he was planning the murder before the narrative even began, and Fortunato's frenzy, as well, is justifiable: he was drunk, and coming to his senses, and slowly realizing that he was going to die. Neither "changes" in their behavior are changes at all, not when one breaks it down--they are natural, predictable courses of action set by the particular circumstances of the climax.
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Me: True. So after the climax, neither are really dynamic per say, but their natural instincts cause them change from their previous dialogue and that is how the climax has affected the resolution, as well as Fortunato dies which though was planned before the climax, didn't happened until after te climax occurred, which changed Fortunato's living status. If that makes sense.
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Me: Thank god! Now we pray it impresses my English teacher or she at least agrees with my points.
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Me: if she's a good English teacher. She makes grammar mistakes more times than in comfortable with and doesn't catch them LOL.
It's almost eleven here! Yikes! One more post in Jason's dorm then I'd better sleep. Night!
It's almost eleven here! Yikes! One more post in Jason's dorm then I'd better sleep. Night!
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Me: Silvy, to tweak your idea to make it a little less devastating: why do Jason and Cleo have to fight first? The loss of an expected child will already be a blow enough for both of them; and Jason especially if he's to do what I think he will.
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Me: Okay, good point, but I was thinking that Cleo wouldn't have time to tell Jason were she was going and that would make him upset. Or something like that...
Me: He would pester the doctors until they told him. Besides, if we give Cleo a miscarriage, his already-broken mental state will completely shatter. (view spoiler) We don't need a fight to help with that.
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Me: Then don't give 'em a miscarriage. XD
Raven: The fact that you're even discussing this is enough to turn anyone to abstinence...
Raven: The fact that you're even discussing this is enough to turn anyone to abstinence...
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Raven: What?
Me: Then we can. Again, I'm just warning you. Actually, if Cleo reacts with emotional intolerance and enough doctors try to reassure him that things will be fine, he might actually attempt suicide.
Me: Then we can. Again, I'm just warning you. Actually, if Cleo reacts with emotional intolerance and enough doctors try to reassure him that things will be fine, he might actually attempt suicide.
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Me: Raven won't stray from abstinence LOL.
Omg omg no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want him to commit suicide. D'; I'll bawl.
Omg omg no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want him to commit suicide. D'; I'll bawl.
Raven: ...I'm not even going to say anything.
Me: Silvy, he's already considering it. Do you really think that the loss of a baby--his baby--is going to make him any less likely to end his own life?
Me: Silvy, he's already considering it. Do you really think that the loss of a baby--his baby--is going to make him any less likely to end his own life?
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Me: Yeah that's true. I can't do tht to Jason though! Lol so it's a no go but it was a good idear.
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Me: Well I don't think they should attempt to have a child together- especially in the environment they're in. This isn't ROOM. LOL
Me: LOL, true. It was a good idea, though, to your credit.
Love doesn't always have to make children, either. It took my parents seven years before they conceived me and my siblings.
Love doesn't always have to make children, either. It took my parents seven years before they conceived me and my siblings.
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Me: Ot course not! Lol I strongly believe that, I'd have to seeing as how I have no desire to have children when I'm older. I was more thinking as the child being a bad thing rather than a positive thing.
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Malinda: Where shall we go?
Me: And just so I don't have to embarrass you anymore, you might take a look at my character list, eh? So you can remember? XD
Me: And just so I don't have to embarrass you anymore, you might take a look at my character list, eh? So you can remember? XD
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Me: Apparently I have to look at my own as well. :D
Aight ummmm how about somewhere outside like the peach tree or outside courtyard??
Aight ummmm how about somewhere outside like the peach tree or outside courtyard??
Books mentioned in this topic
Evolution, Me & Other Freaks of Nature (other topics)Fever 1793 (other topics)
Authors mentioned in this topic
Donna Jo Napoli (other topics)Christopher Paolini (other topics)
In a well written paragraph, choose a specific short story element (plot, character, setting, point of view, or theme) or literary technique, such as irony, used by one of the authors of the short stories we've read in class( listed below). Using specific details from the chosen story, show his the author uses that element or technique to develop the story. Beaure to include the title, correctly spelled, capitilizatiib and in quotation marksc and the author's name in your paragraph. Your paragraph should contain unity and coherence, and complete and correct sentences.
I get to choose from
The Adventure of the Speckled Band
The Birds
The Necklace
A Christmas Memory
Thank You M'am
The Cask of Amontillado
Chickamaugu
The Landlady
The Scarlet Ibis
The Sniper