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message 11151: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Hmm this is my assignment tomorrow.

In a well written paragraph, choose a specific short story element (plot, character, setting, point of view, or theme) or literary technique, such as irony, used by one of the authors of the short stories we've read in class( listed below). Using specific details from the chosen story, show his the author uses that element or technique to develop the story. Beaure to include the title, correctly spelled, capitilizatiib and in quotation marksc and the author's name in your paragraph. Your paragraph should contain unity and coherence, and complete and correct sentences.

I get to choose from
The Adventure of the Speckled Band
The Birds
The Necklace
A Christmas Memory
Thank You M'am
The Cask of Amontillado
Chickamaugu
The Landlady
The Scarlet Ibis
The Sniper



message 11152: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (last edited Nov 18, 2012 06:28PM) (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Oh, do The Cask of Armontillado. There's plenty of complexity in that. You could do plot, or character, or even irony--all would yield an interesting paper. Montresor, the main character, could be discussed at length, and so could the plot, the walling up of the drunken Fortunato. The irony of it? We all know that Fortunato is getting murdered--but he himself doesn't realize until its too late.


message 11153: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Unfortunately I can't do POV with irony because we already discussed it in class. :( That's a really good one


message 11154: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: You don't have to do point of view, you can discuss Poe's use of dramatic irony used throughout the piece. If not, you could write on the plot (Montresor's perceived insult and then his murdering of his friend) or, if not, you could write about Monstresor himself. There are so many wonderful assumptions one can make about him.


message 11155: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: And dramatic irony is when you know something te character doesn't, right?

Hmm as far as plot I could write about the climax of the story when Montressor suddenly chains Fortunado to the manhole in the wall.


message 11156: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Yes.

Right. And you could go on to mention how it pretty much goes downhill from there, with Fortunato gradually growing more frenzied and Monstresor keeping himself deep in a kind of dreamlike calm.


message 11157: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: I was also considering setting for the story Chickamaugua if I can't do Poe, but I really like that. Ever heard of it?


message 11158: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Nope.


message 11159: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: It's. Story about a death mute child who you don't know is death mute until the end. He goes to play war in the woods and comes across a real army whom are barely alive. Still thinking its a game, the boy leads the men to a large bonfire which ends up being his own home and the boy finds his mother dead with her brains leaking out. If I wanted to do setting and irony then I could point out that the title would have to be changed (Chickamaugua is the city whet civil war battles were held) and how there would be no irony where the boy would discover how gruesome real war is by "playing war".


message 11160: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
*deaph


message 11161: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) wrote: "Me: It's. Story about a death mute child who you don't know is death mute until the end. He goes to play war in the woods and comes across a real army whom are barely alive. Still thinking its a ga..."

Me: Hmmm. Either works.


message 11162: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: And I think that's situational irony, but I'm not sure and I think I like TCOA better. I'll try that out then. So we're talking about the climax of amontillado and how it causes the edit of the book to go downhill as far as how the characters react to the gruesome murder...? That sounds good? I always hate putting together beginnings of sentences.


message 11163: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Yeah, that sounds fine.


message 11164: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Okay so then the beginning sentence could be something like;

Climax is the part in a story where the rising action takes place, affecting how the resolution or denouement turns out. In this case, the climax of The Cask of Amontillado, written by Edgar Allen Poe is when our main character, Montressor, shackles his friend Fortunado to his fate in a manhole in the Montressor crypt.

That sound good? Thanks for helping me this is better for me Whn j talk about what I'll write before I do so.


message 11165: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (last edited Nov 18, 2012 07:17PM) (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: That's fine Silvy, just fine. But the names are spelled Montresor and Fortunato. One 's' in Monstresor and a 't', not an 'n', in Fortunato.


message 11166: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Ah, thanks! That's a big help. Thank you!


message 11167: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: De nada.


message 11168: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Do you think it would be safe to say that both characters are dynamic characters in the end? The way that Montresor acts so calm listening to the death of his friend and Fortunato changes by becoming frantic before he dies? They're not exactly dynamic characters, but after the climax their personalities change slightly... Hmmm


message 11169: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Perhaps, perhaps. Though Montresor's calm is completely justified as he was planning the murder before the narrative even began, and Fortunato's frenzy, as well, is justifiable: he was drunk, and coming to his senses, and slowly realizing that he was going to die. Neither "changes" in their behavior are changes at all, not when one breaks it down--they are natural, predictable courses of action set by the particular circumstances of the climax.


message 11170: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: True. So after the climax, neither are really dynamic per say, but their natural instincts cause them change from their previous dialogue and that is how the climax has affected the resolution, as well as Fortunato dies which though was planned before the climax, didn't happened until after te climax occurred, which changed Fortunato's living status. If that makes sense.


message 11171: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Makes perfect sense, and you're correct on all counts.


message 11172: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Thank god! Now we pray it impresses my English teacher or she at least agrees with my points.


message 11173: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: If she's a good English teacher, she should.


message 11174: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: if she's a good English teacher. She makes grammar mistakes more times than in comfortable with and doesn't catch them LOL.

It's almost eleven here! Yikes! One more post in Jason's dorm then I'd better sleep. Night!


message 11175: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: The same. Good night with the last posts, then.


message 11176: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Agreed.


message 11177: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Silvy, to tweak your idea to make it a little less devastating: why do Jason and Cleo have to fight first? The loss of an expected child will already be a blow enough for both of them; and Jason especially if he's to do what I think he will.


message 11178: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Okay, good point, but I was thinking that Cleo wouldn't have time to tell Jason were she was going and that would make him upset. Or something like that...


message 11179: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (last edited Nov 20, 2012 01:09PM) (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: He would pester the doctors until they told him. Besides, if we give Cleo a miscarriage, his already-broken mental state will completely shatter. (view spoiler) We don't need a fight to help with that.


message 11180: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Awws well I don't want Jason to go completely loco. :( LOL but okay.


message 11181: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (last edited Nov 20, 2012 01:10PM) (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Then don't give 'em a miscarriage. XD

Raven: The fact that you're even discussing this is enough to turn anyone to abstinence...


message 11182: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: But not Raven. XD

Idk LOL I kinda want to xD


message 11183: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (last edited Nov 20, 2012 01:15PM) (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Raven: What?

Me: Then we can. Again, I'm just warning you. Actually, if Cleo reacts with emotional intolerance and enough doctors try to reassure him that things will be fine, he might actually attempt suicide.


message 11184: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Raven won't stray from abstinence LOL.

Omg omg no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want him to commit suicide. D'; I'll bawl.


message 11185: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Raven: ...I'm not even going to say anything.

Me: Silvy, he's already considering it. Do you really think that the loss of a baby--his baby--is going to make him any less likely to end his own life?


message 11186: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Yeah that's true. I can't do tht to Jason though! Lol so it's a no go but it was a good idear.


message 11187: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: No to what? The pregnancy at all or the miscarriage only?


message 11188: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Well I don't think they should attempt to have a child together- especially in the environment they're in. This isn't ROOM. LOL


message 11189: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: LOL, true. It was a good idea, though, to your credit.

Love doesn't always have to make children, either. It took my parents seven years before they conceived me and my siblings.


message 11190: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Ot course not! Lol I strongly believe that, I'd have to seeing as how I have no desire to have children when I'm older. I was more thinking as the child being a bad thing rather than a positive thing.


message 11191: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Right, it was pointed out that such would not turn out well. XD

Anyway! Up for another RP?


message 11192: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: OF COURSE! Lol


message 11193: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Jackpot. Who and who?


message 11194: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Anyone but Cleo LOL. XD


message 11195: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: Malinda and Domonic, perhaps? He could use a friendly(er) face.


message 11196: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: I have a character named Malinda? O.o Snap.


message 11197: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Me: I do. Domonic is yours.

Malinda: *facepalm* Please!


message 11198: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Wow okay, right. Been how too long LOL. Sounds like a deal.


message 11199: by Hope , I belong here more than they do. (new)

Hope  | 14351 comments Mod
Malinda: Where shall we go?

Me: And just so I don't have to embarrass you anymore, you might take a look at my character list, eh? So you can remember? XD


message 11200: by *~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis), Life's a dance, you learn as you go. (new)

*~Silvypoo~* (Chaser of Artemis) (Silverfur) | 9992 comments Mod
Me: Apparently I have to look at my own as well. :D

Aight ummmm how about somewhere outside like the peach tree or outside courtyard??


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