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message 51: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) Lora, believe me, I understand you totally. And in a similar way, coming on here and joining groups has been a sort of addiction. I am trying to make more time to be "computer free" time. Actually with Goodreads giveaways I have had one that was very uninteresting and I was disappointed because the author used the older format of footnotes with ibid and op cit. I had three that seemed difficult to get into and once I did though I loved them. But none of them had the kind of errors I have found in e-books. In all fairness, I have to say when my daughter's publisher first released her ARC books someone at the publishing office made a big big mistake and ended up sending out the very first draft she had submitted. I know at least one person on Goodreads got one of those.
One economical but indulgent way of reading for me has been joining BOMC2 online. It's an online book club Book of the Month Club 2. But you keep a running list there. On a certain date (for me it's around the 16th of the month) they send you the first book on your list. You can change your list around any time. I have not found a cheaper way to buy new books. Of course they don't carry everything. but they have a lot of new releases, best sellers. Each book is 10.65 for me, that includes shipping and state sales tax. They also have a list of premium books that cost a little more and you have to purchase them as "buy now" order, you can't put them on your list. Many of the 10.65 books include large print which I prefer. I have decided I am continuing with BOMC2 even with the Kindle because some new release Kindle books are more expensive than the 10.65. My latest purchase was the Stephanie Plum Smokin Seventeen for 1065 in Large Print! Compared to even the Kindle price it was a better deal and I didn't want to wait. I also have found some great buys at Amazon in their used books section. I try to get ones that come from "Amazon Fulfillment" so they include super saver shipping. Also I never get anything less than "good" condition and some books listed as used had actually never been read it seemed to me.


message 52: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) Bells, truthfully I am still trying to learn it. But apparently it puts a little sticky note up and when you type your note it comes out in a larger font and then you stick it to the page, so if you come back to that page it's right on there. That is if I understand it correctly. It was 99 cents and because I review some e-books I thought it would be helpful.


message 53: by Cat (new)

Cat (calail) | 17 comments **bells** wrote: How do I know what generation I have?"
here's another way to check. go to your Kindle account and in "manage kindle" you'll find the serial number.

B001 = Kindle 1
B002 = Kindle 2 U.S. (Sprint)
B003 = Kindle 2 International (AT&T)
B004 = Kindle DX U.S.
B005 = Kindle DX International
B006 = Kindle 3 3G + WiFi Graphite/White (U.S. and CA) NOTE: Some European cities may also use this.
B008 = Kindle 3 WiFi
B009 = Kindle DX Graphite
B00A = Kindle 3 3G + WiFi Graphite (Europe)


message 54: by Everly (new)

Everly Anders | 71 comments Does anyone know when, and if, the kindle is going to come out in color?

Elle
elleapraim.com


message 55: by Lora (new)

Lora | 81 comments Elle now that would be cool huh? I'd like to be able to see the book covers and the web browser stuff in color. That's what I miss is the beautiful book covers on a regular book.

BTW, your link doesn't work. Maybe your missing a letter?


message 56: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) From what I have read I don't think that is going to happen in the Kindle form. They are going to come out with a type of I-pad thing. But having a color Kindle I think would compromise the whole e-ink thing that is easier on the eyes. I was doing some research because originally I wanted a Nook color but everyone told me with the white background it is the same as reading on the computer. I find the Kindle the way it is much more accommodating to my eyes than the computer.


message 57: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments I agree Karen, I don't think Amazon will introduce a color Kindle, I think they want to maintain the integrity of the e-ink screen, but I think they'll come out with a color tablet that allows reading on it. I think it will be in addition to, not a replacement for, the Kindle.


message 58: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) That's my understanding too. They are going for the multi gadget crowd.


message 59: by Clare K. R. (new)

Clare K. R. (clare-dragonfly) Actually, I'm pretty sure color e-ink is in development, so there probably will be, someday, a color e-ink Kindle. I would love that. It might not be for years, though.


message 60: by Lora (new)

Lora | 81 comments Yea, I kinda like the Kindle just the way it is actually now that I think about it. Why mess up a good thing?? lol Graphite color and all. :)


message 61: by Ben (new)

Ben (bevenh) | 8 comments Does anyone have any knowledge or experience using a web site called Lendle? It is an internet site that allows persons to lend and borrow books form other lenders with Kindles. I think there is a cost, but a lender earns money for lending his owned books? I am leery of using the site. The old to good to be true rule.


message 62: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments Ben, I use Lendle, but I loan more books than I borrow. I think the reason for that is most of us own the same lendable books! There is no cost, unless you voluntarily want to contribute $25 to become a Patron.

The hardest part about it is listing all your lendable books. Once you do that, you'll get an email when someone wants to borrow one of your books. Once you've successfully loaned it, you get a $.50 credit on your account and when you get to $10 credit you get an Amazon gift card. Of course there's the feature where you can request to borrow a book, and when someone has it available, you'll get an email.

It's really no different than just lending or borrowing from other people, only things are organized and you can search for books you want to borrow, and you can earn gift cards for the books you loan to someone. And like I said, there is no cost to you, unless you chose to donate $25 and become a Patron. Patrons earn $1.00 each time they successfully loan a book.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.


message 63: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) Patricia, is it like the Amazon site where you can only lend a book once?


message 64: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments Yes. As a matter of fact, to complete the actual lending process, it actually takes you to Amazon.com.


message 65: by K. (new)

K.  (eowyn1075) | 35 comments Ben wrote: "Does anyone have any knowledge or experience using a web site called Lendle? It is an internet site that allows persons to lend and borrow books form other lenders with Kindles. I think there is a ..."

I am a Lendle Patron and I have made about $15 lending. I have also borrowed about 8 books and I have about 28 books that I have "booked" a place in line so I will get it whenever I am ready. I love Lendle!


message 66: by Weenie (new)

Weenie | 55 comments Thought Lendle sounded pretty cool until I noticed it's only for the US... :-(


message 67: by Helen (new)

Helen me too Weenie.


message 68: by Lora (new)

Lora | 81 comments Patricia wrote: "Ben, I use Lendle, but I loan more books than I borrow. I think the reason for that is most of us own the same lendable books! There is no cost, unless you voluntarily want to contribute $25 to b..."

Pat with the credit you earn is it just for Amazon cards? Seems like a lot of books I get are not lendable. But worth checking out anyway. Only bad thing about it for me is that sometimes I like to read my books at my leisure and not have a deadline. That's what I hated about getting books from the library. Sometimes I would buzz right through them and other times it took me 2-3 weeks to read one in between everything else I have to do! lol


message 69: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments Lora, yes you can only earn Amazon gift cards. I lend more books than I borrow, but I admit I do feel pressure to read it right away when it's a borrowed book. I get books from the library (read them on my Nook) and I always feel that way somewhat with them, but they are for 21 days so that's not too bad.


message 70: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) very interesting; I had no idea that so many people have a Kobo and a Kindle or a Nook and a Kindle.
I had originally wanted the color Nook because they showed it in the "landscape" format and I thought that would be better. Then someone pointed out to me that with Kindle you can set it that way too.


message 71: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments Yes I bought my Nook over a year ago, just for the purpose of reading library books on it, and it's probably paid for itself, if I considered I would have bought all the books I've read for free from the library.


message 72: by Lora (new)

Lora | 81 comments Patricia wrote: "Yes I bought my Nook over a year ago, just for the purpose of reading library books on it, and it's probably paid for itself, if I considered I would have bought all the books I've read for free fr..."
Well isn't Kindle suppose to be able to do Library books too maybe by the end of the year? Gees...I don't want all these different reading devices. I just want to read! Why can't they just make it easy for all the e-readers. Although I do think it's nice that the new Nook has a touch screen. :)


message 73: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments "Why can't they just make it easy for all the e-readers."
Lora, that's the $64,000 question! That's why so many people are opposed to DRM. But most of the companies who make ereaders actually make their money on selling the books to read on them, so I guess that's why they want us locked into a specific format to fit their ereader.

And yes, Amazon is supposed to implement library borrowing on the Kindle before the end of the year. I'm really looking forward to that. I probably will sell my Nook at that time.


message 74: by Helen (new)

Helen I haven't read a library book in years. I went of charity shop books too. I don't smoke and I had a few that smelled so strongly of tobacco they made me gag, totally put me off.


message 75: by Joe (new)

Joe (skinsjoe) | 3 comments Helen wrote: "I haven't read a library book in years. I went of charity shop books too. I don't smoke and I had a few that smelled so strongly of tobacco they made me gag, totally put me off."


I am the same way. I rarely read library books. I used swap.com for years and traded books on line. Have yet to try it in goodreads. But you eventually get those books that smell like smokers and that makes me gag as well. The only thing I found that helps, is to find a nice dry place outdoors and let the book breathe in the fresh air for a couple of days. Just be sure it's dry.


message 76: by Helen (new)

Helen Glad it's not just me! e-book lending could be a solution. If it arrives in the UK.


message 77: by Karen B. (new)

Karen B. (raggedy11) I don't like library books unless they're new and I only want used books from people I know. I don't want to go into the details, but one of the reasons, as many of you have said is smokers' smell. My exception is used college books (certain ones) that may have notes written in the margins. I love the big old English lit books; remind me of my own days in college I guess


message 78: by Wendy (last edited Jul 12, 2011 07:30PM) (new)

Wendy (wendyi) | 3 comments Hi All. I'm from Australia, and I wanted to know why some Kindle books are unavailable for us Aussies. Would anybody know the reason for this? :) Very frustrating!


message 79: by stormhawk (new)

stormhawk | 542 comments The deals are made with publishers country by country. There are a lot of British and German Kindle books that aren't available here in the U.S. I agree, it would be a lot easier if we all could read each others books, but hey, international law is confusing.

Also, you folks have to read upside down don't you? That conversion takes longer.

:D (I just really crack myself up)


message 80: by Wendy (new)

Wendy (wendyi) | 3 comments stormhawk wrote: "The deals are made with publishers country by country. There are a lot of British and German Kindle books that aren't available here in the U.S. I agree, it would be a lot easier if we all could re..."

Thanks Stormhawk! And yeah, let's not get into the reading upside down thing, lol!


message 81: by Helen (new)

Helen Heehee!Someone in my class asked why you didn't fall off, impromptu lesson on gravity. I think with the upsurge in e-readers, we need a revamp of the copyright laws to enable across world book buying.


message 82: by Wendy (new)

Wendy (wendyi) | 3 comments Helen wrote: "Heehee!Someone in my class asked why you didn't fall off, impromptu lesson on gravity. I think with the upsurge in e-readers, we need a revamp of the copyright laws to enable across world book buying."

Yeah, high five Helen! I agree :)


message 83: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Guterl | 3 comments I have a question about boxed set ebooks. Does anyone know how to figure out what page you are on? When I hit 'menu' on a boxed set book, it only gives me the location not the page number. When I read a regular ebook, the menu option does give me the real page number. Help!!!


message 84: by Betsy (new)

Betsy Not all books have page number; it apparently is up to the publisher.


message 85: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Guterl | 3 comments Betsy wrote: "Not all books have page number; it apparently is up to the publisher."

All regular books have page numbers though. Do you mean its up to the publisher to put page numbers on ebooks?


message 86: by Helen (new)

Helen Not all ebooks have pages numbers.


message 87: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Guterl | 3 comments Helen wrote: "Not all ebooks have pages numbers."

That stinks!!! Thank you both for your responses.


message 88: by Helen (new)

Helen I was annoyed at first but whenever I do look at page numbers I find myself working out how far through the book I am - the %age does it for me so why bother!


message 89: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) You can also < and it straight away gives you the option to delete/remove.

It took me 7months to find that out and I only did so by pressing < by accident. -.-


message 90: by Tara (new)

Tara (mrstarax) I have just set up my kindle info in my goodreads account.

I don't actually know how it all works.

It says the kindle can sync with goodreads about what books i have read etc.

Can anyone confirm how it all works? has anyone set it up?


message 91: by Helen (new)

Helen My read books are organised into genre collections. My unread are just listed on various pages in the order I bought them. Is there a way I can organise these perhaps alphabetically?


message 92: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments How do you have it Sorted? If you Sort by Title it will put everything in alphabetical order, including your Collections. Sounds like you have it set to Sort by Collections so it's showing all of your Collections first, then any books not in a Collection are listed after that. There's no way to make them appear in alphabetical order under that setting. Why don't you just create a Collection called Unread Books and put them in there?

I put all my books in a Collection, whether they are read or unread. Most of the time after I read a book I delete it from my Kindle and just keep it in Archives. Sometimes if I have Unread and Read books in a series, I'll have them altogether in a Collection.

Hope I haven't totally confused you! Sometimes it's hard to write things down the way I want them to sound.


message 93: by Helen (new)

Helen No, thanks for the help. I've just looked at mine based on what you said. It is organised by collections but I noticed they can be organised by title or author. I think I'll put the unread into a collection and sort by either title or author. Thanks.


message 94: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments I know some people Sort by Title and then put a little symbol in front of their Collection titles so it forces them to the top of the list. For example: ~Mysteries. But I don't like sorting by Title even with that method because then you have all your Collections listed first, but ALL of your books are still listed, following the Collections. I like mine sorted by Collections, then I only have 4 pages.


message 95: by Helen (new)

Helen That is a good idea as my books have spread to 7 pages now. Thanks for the help.


message 96: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) Tara wrote: "I have just set up my kindle info in my goodreads account.

I don't actually know how it all works.

It says the kindle can sync with goodreads about what books i have read etc.

Can anyone confirm..."


I haven't really heard from anyone to say it actually works! I've tried it a few times and it has NEVER synced!


message 97: by Helen (new)

Helen I am reading Fortress in the Eye of Time on my kindle for a group read (Augusts!), as I'm enjoying it and like to read a whole series, I went to buy the other four books on Amazon UK. I was able to get parts 2, 4 and 5 but part 3 (Fortress of Owls) is unavailable to kindle.

Now, lets puch aside the idiocy of that and my annoyance. What I want to know is if I buy it somewhere else as an e-book (presuming I can), what do I need to be aware of? As in can I buy it through Calibre and regardless of anything it will smoothly go onto my kindle?


message 98: by Patricia (new)

Patricia (pg4003) | 243 comments Helen, you're asking if you can buy this as an ePub (or some other format) and use Calibre to convert it to read on your Kindle? The simple answer is No. The only way you could do that is if the managed to buy this book in a DRM-free format, which probably isn't going to happen. I guess I should amend this by saying in the U.S. it is illegal to strip DRM from ebooks, but seems like I've heard it's not in some other countries.

SO...if you bought an ePub version (and it's legal to do the DRM removal in your country) you could put it in Calibre and convert to Mobi format which will work on your Kindle.

We probably are not allowed to discuss DRM removal on this site. Google is your friend, Apprentice Alf is his name.


message 99: by Helen (new)

Helen Thanks Patricia, I had the feeling I was on a lost cause, it's wierd that books 1, 2, 4 & 5 are available but not 3.


message 100: by Betsy (new)

Betsy That's hard to believe. It doesn't make sense. Have you tried contacting Amazon? or even the author.


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