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Corrected the title; I am unable to confirm the number of pages, as I do not have a copy...I'll have to wait for a librarian with a copy to update that. All other information is correct, according to Barnes & Noble...Amazon does not have a listing with this isbn; there is no worldcat entry to confirm.
I can post a screen grab from ADE to show you the page numbers if that helps.As for the cover, the rounded cover is not correct S&S (the publisher) does not use rounded covers. The link I posted for the replacement cover comes from the publisher. Also, the description I posted comes from the publisher.
Since B&N differs from the publisher, one would thing B&N is wrong, not the publisher.
As for the title, why doesn't the series show up in my book list? It only shows when I click on the title. Can this be fixed? I have some in my list that do have the series showing without having to click on the title.
Any changes we make take about 10 minutes to show. B&N gets their info from the publisher...
Thanks.I do have one question. Would you take B&N's word on a book's information over that of the publisher?
Was the cover changed and the description?
As for the page number, the page number shown is for the print edition. So that is wrong. But as I own the eBook, why would I lie about the page number being different?
I just had another look and I notice a lot of errors still.The cover has not been fixed. The page numbers has not been fixed and the description has not been fixed.
Can these error please be fixed? The issue I have is why bother to point out errors when they get ignored? I gave you the correct information from the publisher and from the book itself. Yet you still feel that the info that B&N so incorrectly has is correct.
B&N's pagecount on the website is pretty off most of the time in my experience, at least when it comes to eBooks. I've noticed it's often the same pagecount as the paper copies, and no clue whether the publishers are giving them bad info or if they're just copying it for simplicity. Either way, I never trust them until I have the book downloaded and can check it myself.
Ok, I just looked at the listing:The cover looks fine as it is, it is the same basic cover, but with the rounded corners that B&N (and others) use to visually connote e-books (which, after all, don't technically have covers), which many readers find helpful. So, leaving that as-is.
The book description matches that of your original post, so I'm guessing that has been changed already.
The title and series information matches what you're telling us (but in GR format, so it's in the series field), so that is fine.
I don't touch page counts on e-books, so I can't verify that one to make the change.
To your complaint on why bother to point out 'errors' when they "get ignored", I'll say this: Librarians do take the time to correct errors, but it would be helpful for you to learn GR formatting policy and to understand that the publisher's (or any other website) does not trump this. If you have an issue with GR policy, as has been suggested to you before, feel free to raise it as a suggestion to change the policy, but repetitively asking the same thing is not going to get you different answers. I'm speaking speficially of the rounded-corner book covers thing, which I know we discussed months ago.
Your insistence that what you want it to look like is 'right' is frankly very frustrating to many Librarians, since we seem to all be repeating the same things to you in various threads and over multiple months. GR policy, as stated in the Librarians' Manual, is what is 'right', not what other websites state.
Having said that, Librarians are happy to correct actual errors, so please do continue to report those.
If you would please swap the cover for the one I linked to, we would have a much better quality cover. As it is, I find the cover hard to read. A higher resolution cover would definably look better and be easier to read even at the largest size. This is not a great cover for contrast and it does need all the help it can get. This is not rounded vs. rectangle. I did take a look at the cover and found I cannot clearly make out the book number on the cover and would not know what it was just by looking at it.As for the page number, I'll post a screen grab from ADE to show the page number so it can then be changed. I do have a suggestion about eBook page numbers. Since all the sites I've seen do page numbers wrong, why not just ignore imported page numbers since they will be the print version's page numbers and let people who own the eBook give the proper page numbers?
I do have a question, why is it that the series information cannot be shown like some of the other books when it works fine by just clicking the series part of the title when looking at the listing?
The cover on the listing looks exactly the same as the other edition of the book (except for the rounded corners), so I'm not sure why you are finding it hard to read. Are you looking at it on a small device?I answered your question about the series information in your other thread. It's pretty long, so I'll not repost it, but it's here: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/5...
I'm not sure what you're clicking on when you say by just clicking the series part of the title when looking at the listing
Do you mean clicking on the series name when you are looking at the book in a list of books, or do you mean clicking on the series name when you are on the book page?
The cover on the paperback listing is of higher resolution. When I click on the cover for the paperback edition, the larger image I see if clearer and easier to read. The words are much clearer to read. The eBook cover is lower resolution and is hard to read. I am using a laptop. So the screen is not too small. It's just that the resolution is low and the image is fuzzy. It would really help if we could have a higher resolution image please.As for the series information, the following listing shows what I am trying to get at...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/96...
The listing in my list shows the title of the book and the series information next to the title. When I click on the book, it also shows the title with the series information next to the title. When I am looking at the book's listing, I can click on the series information and be taking to the Jack Reacher series listing. This works very nicely as I can see the series and click on the series. This is what I want for all the book that are part of a series. I'd like to be able to see the series information in the listing and also be able to click on it in the books more detailed listing.
I'll see if I can find a better resolution image for the cover.OK, so on the book page, you're seeing the title of the book and the grey series information in parentheses, correct?
Except for the original start-up loading of series information that the programmers did when they created the series object/pages a couple of months ago, all other series creation and maintenance is done by Librarians manually.
So, if there is a book that should be part of a series, but isn't, either the edition is not combined with other editions of the same book, or, just as likely, the series has not yet been created, or the book hasn't been added to an existing series.
Again, all this is done manually by Librarians, so if you find books that should be in a series but aren't, create a thread here on the group, asking for a Librarian to create the series, or to add the book to an existing series. Please give as many links as possible to make it easier for the Librarian to do.
JSWolf wrote: "The cover on the paperback listing is of higher resolution. When I click on the cover for the paperback edition, the larger image I see if clearer and easier to read. The words are much clearer to read. The eBook cover is lower resolution and is hard to read. I am using a laptop. So the screen is not too small. It's just that the resolution is low and the image is fuzzy. It would really help if we could have a higher resolution image please."OK, I found a higher resolution image and loaded it.
Thank you. Now I can read the small words in white.
OK, I see the issue in terms of series. Can we please put the series information in the title field as well as the series field so the series displays in book lists? That would help a lot. Thanks.
JSWolf, fixed the series info. Most librarians don't add it to the title anymore because eventually it will be removed when the series programming is complete.
I usually only add it to the most popular edition because like you, I like to see it come up in lists etc.
When the series programming is complete does this mean that we won't be seeing any series information in any of the books in our list?Sandra, would you mind doing me a huge favor? Would you mind going through my list and putting in the series information in the titles where they no longer show so I can see them all?
JSWolf, when the series programming is complete I'm pretty sure the intention is to see the series info, so the reason they will strip the titles is so that it doesn't show up twice.OK I'll have a look, may take a couple of days, depending.
Sandra wrote: "JSWolf, when the series programming is complete I'm pretty sure the intention is to see the series info, so the reason they will strip the titles is so that it doesn't show up twice.OK I'll have ..."
Thank you very much I really appreciate it.
To take out the series info from the titles is a poor idea (IMHO). It makes things harder to see without having to then click on the title. And I don't always know what books belong to what series so I'd be a bit lost.
JSWolf wrote: "Sandra wrote: "JSWolf, when the series programming is complete I'm pretty sure the intention is to see the series info, so the reason they will strip the titles is so that it doesn't show up twice...."I think you aren't quite understanding what Sandra is telling you. Go to your Discworld shelf. See how the series information is showing beside the title in a slightly different color? Eventually all lists should show the series that way. When they do you won't even be able to see the series info in the title field.
Deborah wrote: "JSWolf wrote: "Sandra wrote: "JSWolf, when the series programming is complete I'm pretty sure the intention is to see the series info, so the reason they will strip the titles is so that it doesn't..."Some of the titles I have that are part of a series do not show the series info in my list. Are they supposed to eventually all show like they do in my Discworld shelf?
JSWolf wrote: "Some of the titles I have that are part of a series do not show the series info in my list. Are they supposed to eventually all show like they do in my Discworld shelf? "Yes.
Is it OK if I make a list of the books in my list that are part of a series that do not show the series info in the list so they can be fixed?
JSWolf wrote: "Is it OK if I make a list of the books in my list that are part of a series that do not show the series info in the list so they can be fixed?"I can only speak for myself, but I'm more likely to make changes when there is a link included and if the change can be made quickly.
It might be better to only put a few in each message. Putting the entire list in one message could be a lot of work for one person, but if you divide it into separate messages, it could more easily be done at different times or by different people.
There seems to be not many that need series fixing so I'll list them here with the links.http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/73...
Greater Than the Sum (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...
Paths of Disharmony (Star Trek: Typhon Pact, #4)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/85...
Star Trek: The Lost Era, 2298: The Sundered (Star Trek: The Lost Era)
The Sundered (Star Trek: The Lost Era 2298) ...Unless someone has a better way to fix this one.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/72...
Many Splendors(Star Trek: S.C.E., #66)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/72...
10 Is Better Than 01 (Star Trek: S.C.E., #65)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...
Distant Early Warning (Star Trek: S.C.E., #64)
I've put the link and then the way it should look in the listing. If I have made any mistakes, please let me know. It is just 6 books to be dealt with. Thanks.
This listing could use some fixing up.
The description is not the same one as the publisher uses on their website. The following description is the the publisher's description.
"Many years ago, a bizarre alien life-form known as the Black Mass consumed and destroyed an entire solar system in what was then the Thallonion Empire. Now the Black Mass has returned and its target is Tulan IV, homeworld of the fearsome Redeemers. Faced with near-certain destruction the Overlord of the Redeemers is forced to turn to an unlikely ally: Captain Calhoun and the Starship Excalibur.
Busy coping with the return of his rebellious son, Calhoun is none too eager to come to the aid of his despotic enemy, but when innocent lives are threatened he has no choice but to confront the unstoppable Black Mass. But how can one starship turn back a force capable of consuming entire suns?"
The number of pages is actually 187.
The cover could use replacing with http://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/...
The name of the book is wrong. The title is Dark Allies and the series is Star Trek: New Frontier.
And finally the publisher is just "Simon & Shuster"
Thanks.