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Vampires don't sparkle.
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Apr 27, 2011 07:23PM
Now I know I may seem a little harsh, but vampires are supposed to be blood thirsty, ruthless, evil creatures. They disintegrate in the sun and are totally baddass. Right? Am I alone in thinking that Meyer made a huge mistake in having vampires sparkle in the sun? Cause I just think that that's stupid...what do you think?
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i liked the books and movies but i have to agree i liked the oolder scarier version more james was the opnly one i liked
I agree that having Vampires sparkle kind of detracted from the story. I feel like Meyer was really looking for a plot device that hadn't been used yet. Which after you look at the plethora of vampire material out there this was one of the few original ideas left. @Alice, I also really enjoyed the Vampire Chronicles they to me were so realistic and gritty. I skipped Interview with a Vampire though and started with The Vampire Lestat and it did not distract from the story at all.
There are a lot of books that deal with vampires in the sunlight and none makes it ridiculous like in Twilight!Frost's vampires don't die in the sun and she makes it in a fun and enjoyable way!
We have many other examples and although Meyer was original to make vampires sparkle she made Stoker cringe in his grave!!! Vampires are blood sucking creatures not sparkly vegetarian ones!!!
why do they get destroyed in sun light that makes no sense in real life too but still sparkling is just gay
i like vampires from vampire knight they make sense
Marília wrote: "There are a lot of books that deal with vampires in the sunlight and none makes it ridiculous like in Twilight!Frost's vampires don't die in the sun and she makes it in a fun and enjoyable way!
We..."
That's funny.
@ Abbie: yeah, I understand that, but what I'm saying is, couldn't she do it differently? I mean, I understand that she wants to make them seem good, but I think she could've done it in a different way. "I'm pretty sure that the idea of sparkling vampires was just her version of the effect of sunlight."
That's true, but it looks too much like something out of a fairy princess book...
There are pleanty of vampire stories where sunlight dosen't hurt vampires. Meyer took the sun thing and turned it around. The sun is what makes vampires more attractive to thier prey. I know that if I saw a hot guy sparkling in the sun, I'd wanna get a closer look. Curiosity killed the cat you know!
I think sparkling Vampires are a bit odd. Meyer has a great 1st Person POV though and I think that makes the story. Her characters are solid and her writing skill is decent. There was no head hopping and that is important.
Chameleon wrote: "Now I know I may seem a little harsh, but vampires are supposed to be blood thirsty, ruthless, evil creatures. They disintegrate in the sun and are totally baddass. Right? Am I alone in thinking th..."I think Meyer made a mistake in making this unbelievably awful series in the first place.
I liked the Twilight series before it got popular. After it did and got turned into movies, I hated it. The last 2 movies were OK, especially Eclipse, but Twilight was HORRIBLE. I lost all respect for the series. I've read my Twilight book so many times that it's falling apart but now if I pick it up, I can't help but laugh, especially the whole vampire sparkle thing. The way they put it in the movie was not how I pictured it. It was sooo much worse.So my take on this subject it:
EDWARD CULLEN
doesn’t bite people, he looks like he resides in the woods, and he sparkles. Face it, he’s not a vampire, he’s a fairy
Danielle wrote: "So my take on this subject it:EDWARD CULLEN
doesn’t bite people, he looks like he resides in the woods, and he sparkles. Face it, he’s not a vampire, he’s a fairy "
Just curious. What makes you think a fairy doesn't bite people?
Kaitlin wrote: "but still sparkling is just gay"Yeah, I guess...
"Say, Edward, is that a sparkle or are you just happy to see me?"
Chameleon wrote: "Now I know I may seem a little harsh, but vampires are supposed to be blood thirsty, ruthless, evil creatures. They disintegrate in the sun and are totally baddass. Right? Am I alone in thinking th..."it's called imagination. Just because others make vampires out to be that way doesn't mean stephanie meyer had to do the same thing. You just might have to get used to the fact that stephanie made them that way. As always anyone has their right to their opinions. And this is my opinion.
Kaitlin wrote: "i like vampires from vampire knight they make sense"Completely agree
Juliet wrote: I think Meyer made a mistake in making this unbelievably awful series in the first place.Oh, I thought that was obvious...
@ Atarah: yeah, okay, creativity is a good thing, but sparkling vampires isn't exactly the best idea. I respect you opinion, I just don't understand it...
Haha yea sparkling was kind of dumb and the movie just made it worse cause the effects just make it look like Edward is sweaty. But I think she just wanted to do something different so every author can kind of make up their own vampire rules if they want to. I don't really care either way.
The sparkling effect seemed, to me, to be directed specifically toward the female, pre-teen audience. Don't all 13 year old girls like glitter? But, yes, Meyer was probably just trying to find something different to portray her wholesome vampires. I must admit that I did read the entire series and only really liked the 3rd one.
Seems like it was a pretty good ideal. She has been made rich by them...so I'd say the number who like the sparkle completely out weigh those who don't. Not to mention a person shouldn't get bashed for trying to be creative. The thing I think is funny is that all the ones who fuss about the sparkle didn't stop reading when they found that out in the first book. It hasn't stopped them from watching all the movies either.
Actually, she took this story from a dream that she had. The dream was the meadow scene. In the book he reveals his sparkliness to her in "their meadow" not up in the montains between the rocks like the movie. Her dream was a young couple, deeply in love and he (Edward) was tormented by his love for her and his strong desire to kill her. In this dream, the boy was glowing,a sparkly kind of a glow. That is where the sparkliness came from. She just wasn't trying to come up with someting different.Stephenie Meyer didn't just say to her self one day, "Gee, I think I'll write a vampire book and try to make it different." She had this dream and the image haunted her so much that she had to write it down. That's where the book started.
In, I believe, less than six months the book was in the hands of a publisher. Maybe that's why the grammar is what everyone here is calling "so poor" it dosen't bother me. Usually writers are obsessively editing and revising. Twilight happened so fast. She had more time to work on the ohter three. : )
The grammar has nothing to do with the writer. The Publisher is responsible to that, along with the editor. It is weird if anyone keeps blaming Stephenie for that. Btw...about the glittering stuff. I also dislike the idea added to my usual vampire world. But if there are lots of people (teenagers) are having fun with that, then who cares? If you dislike the idea, you could just stop reading the books.
Nurlely wrote: "The grammar has nothing to do with the writer. The Publisher is responsible to that, along with the editor. It is weird if anyone keeps blaming Stephenie for that. Btw...about the glittering stuf..."
It's not just teenagers that are having fun with it. I'm 40 years old and I totally get it!
Heather wrote: "The thing I think is funny is that all the ones who fuss about the sparkle didn't stop reading when they found that out in the first book. It hasn't stopped them from watching all the movies either. "Sorry to burst your bubble, but at least seven people I know stopped reading the series because of the way Meyer portrays her vampires...just saying...
Lindis wrote: "It's not just teenagers that are having fun with it. I'm 40 years old and I totally get it!"Yes, I understand it as well, but the idea seems rather silly to me...but that's just my opinion.
Yeah, Bella should've died giving birth...read the discussion...
Chameleon wrote: "Lindis wrote: "It's not just teenagers that are having fun with it. I'm 40 years old and I totally get it!"Yes, I understand it as well, but the idea seems rather silly to me...but that's just my..."
LOL, yeah I can see the sillyness in it.
Lindis wrote: "Yes, I understand it as well, but the idea seems rather silly to me...but that's just my opinion. "Same here...:)
Chameleon wrote: "Heather wrote: "The thing I think is funny is that all the ones who fuss about the sparkle didn't stop reading when they found that out in the first book. It hasn't stopped them from watching all t..."LOL! Yeah, they probably still watched the movies though. Not to burst your lil bubble but I am talking about the people fussing on here. You go to their profiles and what do ya know all the books have been read. LMFAO!!!
I used to play vampires with my friends at night on the trampoline or play in the backyard sipping red koolaide.and always had those big plastic fangs.
I loved the movie The Little Vampire! It was so cute and me and my friends thought it was awesome.
We had plastic bats we would fly around when we turned into bats haha
We could only play vampires when it was darker outside.
and we even had really long boxes that were are coffins.
We would go into the small grocery store with our plastic fangs buying rasberry filled candy with our saved up quarters.
Vampires just weren't as popular like they are now or thought of as something to have as a boyfriend.
So I was about 13 when Twilight came out.
I was curious because I liked vampires in a scary monster way, but this book wasn't anything scary or exiting in the least. I wondering why in the hell the vampire has glittery skin that was the exact spot in the book I stopped reading.
I was mad, my vampires were ruined.
I just have my memories and The Little Vampire movie
I just think she was trying to come up with something different from every other vampire book out there -- and FAILED miserably. By far the dumbest vampire quality EVER. Period.
In my opinion, vampires are supposed to be evil demons. They do not love, they are not kind, and they definitely do not sparkle. It's so hard to find good vampire books, and by that, I mean the ones where they are the bad guys.
Apri wrote: "In my opinion, vampires are supposed to be evil demons. They do not love, they are not kind, and they definitely do not sparkle. It's so hard to find good vampire books, and by that, I mean the one..."Agreed, I actually prefer the stereotypes to the hug-a-tree loving "vegetarian" vampires.
Me too. I prefer Damon over Stefan (even though Damon is going soft). James over Edward any day! At the end of the day: What is the point of reading and watching vampires if they don't kill, if they aren't EVIL? No point!
BunWat wrote: "Completely wrong. "Which part? Please do enlighten me with your opinions. I prefer discussions with manner...
Apri wrote: "In my opinion, vampires are supposed to be evil demons. They do not love, they are not kind, and they definitely do not sparkle. It's so hard to find good vampire books, and by that, I mean the one..."I disagree with love part. Vlad in Bram Stoker's Dracula loved Mina. Akasha loved Lestat in Anne Rice's The Vampire Chronicles. Stefan even cared for Elena in Vampire Diaries. Eric loved Sookie in The Southern Vampires series.
oh yeah! that is true! vamps should fall in love but that doesn't mean they have to be soft. I enjoy a vampire that is sweet and tender with the one they love, but then ruthless when it comes to everyone else. That's what I enjoyed about Eric! He was so warm with Sookie and Pam, and then with everyone else he was just soo..... ya know? he kicked ass. Don't get me started on when someone threatened Sookie!
why in the world did they make vampires sparkle throughout the decades of vampires not one of them as sparkled they burned and turned to dust and i wished that would have happened to edward because he gets on my nerves why does a vampire need to sparkle if they are suppose to be a very dangerous predator if i saw a sparkling vampire hunting me i would just laugh histerically because that is just ridiculous
Sophie wrote: "oh yeah! that is true! vamps should fall in love but that doesn't mean they have to be soft. I enjoy a vampire that is sweet and tender with the one they love, but then ruthless when it comes to ..."
Hahaha....I know. Eric is so awesome. My best vamp.
Tayanna wrote: "why in the world did they make vampires sparkle throughout the decades of vampires not one of them as sparkled they burned and turned to dust and i wished that would have happened to edward because..."I wonder what got into Stephenie's head doing this. If all vampires could live under the sun, their numbers will be unbelievable. Yes Stephenie balanced their number with the shifters, but the vamps still outnumbered the shifters. And it seems that one shifter can not defeat a single vamp. That is why Stephenie's vampires world is weird and ridiculous. But Twilight is simply romance series, wrapped by supernatural story to attract more Young Adult readers.
In all honesty, I have always looked at Angel for my view of vampires.
Tayanna wrote: "why in the world did they make vampires sparkle throughout the decades of vampires not one of them as sparkled they burned and turned to dust..."Actually, they didn't.
But some have, for example, a strange compulsion to count things, how's that for a "stupid" trait?
Vampire lore is far more varied than what Hollywood or Paranormal Romances make it look like.
Not that I personally thought the sparkling scene particularly brilliant, it is a rather "girly" idea which pushes "twilight" closer to chick-lit than paranormal romance.
Apri wrote: "In my opinion, vampires are supposed to be evil demons. They do not love, they are not kind, and they definitely do not sparkle. It's so hard to find good vampire books, and by that, I mean the one..."Well first, I agree that typically vampires are supossed to be evil. But I think that that is why a lot of people are attracted to Twilight. They made it okay to fall for something that was both evil and alluring.
Second. I will have to disagree with the comment that vampires do not love. The original vampire story, about Vlad the Impaler (some people think) is in fact, a love story. He trades his soul to the devil, forsaking God, in order to get revenge on thoes who sent a false message to his love. The message said that he had been killed in battle durring the crusades and she commited suicide because she couldn't live with out him. I could go on, but I won't.
Most Vampire stories are basically a love story. Or have a thread of a love story in them. : )
The editor sometimes cut the pages from things considered unnecessary. It is probably premature for me to say has the grammar has nothing to do with the writer but the writer builds a story, while the editor will see for any errors made. BunWat wrote: "A book editor will also assign a copy editor to look over the final manuscript and check for typos, mispellings, errors in fact, grammar mistakes and other problems. "
Surely it is the writer's name since the idea was hers. It is more difficult to create something than to edit them. But sometimes the case depends on the contract. Sometimes the writers have absolute right to the story, that it is not to be amended but not everybody has the privilege. It is bad that the Editors are paid less but they still have to do their works properly.
Janie wrote: "*cough* Well, they don't exist either. Darn that they sparkle in this fiction book. Just, darn."Who? Editors?
Breanna wrote: "Who cares if they sparkle, yah there "supposed" to turn to dust, but she changed it up a little to those who approve. I don't really care for the series, but in the world of writing who the hell ca..."Hooray Breanna! Well said! I totally agree!!!!! : )
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