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What books are you given the most flak for reading?

I read all three almost exclusively. I'm still relatively new to reading. Two and half years ago I didn't read at all, then someone talked m..."
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Thanks everyone for all the YA historical recs. I'll be checking some of them out.
My experience with historical in the YA genre has been less historical and more romance or fantasy oriented like The Luxe series and the Gemma Doyle trilogy, so the historical part is more of a background noise and not the focus. The books that you all listed will fit more of the niche I'm looking for.

As for YA historical fiction, I remember reading The Nonsuch Lure when I was a young teenager and being teleported back in time.




I've never read Brown or Sparks. I have seen the movies for DC and the Angel's something.or.other, but I don't watch sad sappy stuff, so no notebook for me.
Is this where I declare to the world for the 7000th time that I have not ever and will never watch Titanic?
Is this where I declare to the world for the 7000th time that I have not ever and will never watch Titanic?
Well.. okay I have read those books, but I read them when I was a kid. I likely wouldn't read them now. And I have to correct myself, that there are some books where a main character is an adult, but a good portion of the book is the character as a child, growing in to their character - I don't mind that if the book is written well, of course.
I still am a kid...age is relative.
I still am a kid...age is relative.
Stacia ~ Mistress of Mediocrity wrote: "Speaking of YA, if anyone has any historical fiction recs in the YA genre they can rec...
I got asked to mod a new group focusing on YA historical fiction and my knowledge of it is pretty limite..."
YA historical fiction? Like
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? Kipling has a lot, but Kim was my favorite.
I got asked to mod a new group focusing on YA historical fiction and my knowledge of it is pretty limite..."
YA historical fiction? Like



I love The Secret Garden, and in a way feel like it is like a juvenile fiction version of Jane Eyre.

That said, I do enjoy some children's lit and middle grade fiction (mentioned my love of Percy Jackson already), but I do prefer YA to children's lit. A good portion of YA is really similar to adult books in content nowadays. The violence might leave out a detail or two, or the sex might not be as graphic, but the stories are often just as intense and even more imaginative.
I try to read about half YA and half adult, but I see my YA shelf has a few extra books on it.

I'm gonna see if there's a bargain out there for it.

As for Twilight, not at all my thing (vampires) and by now so many people have made fun of it there's no way I am interested in sparkly vampires BUT many of my friends have gotten all caught up in it. Heheh. It's fun to rag on them. Because they've ragged on some of my choices too.

Harry Potter books- love them.
Jane Austen books- chick lit for geeks, according to my friends.
Twilight (yes, I read them- how else could I put down my twi-hard friends? I need a leg to stand on) Not for me... teenage angst is a bit boring, really.
Sookie Stackhouse series (love these)
To me, a truly great story is one that can be enjoyed by a person of any age.

I feel I've missed out - I don't know Mr Poppers Penguins!

People give people flak for reading Jane Austen? That's just sad.
I keep hearing that a good story is a good story regardless of what age it's aimed at. Maybe. I reread A Little Princess and The Secret Garden a couple years ago and they didn't live up to my memories. I loved them as a kid, I thought they were magical and fabulous. It makes me doubt that I should revisit old childhood classics.
I think there are some children's books that probably retain their magic. Picture books, like The Story of Ferdinand probably do more so than chapter books.
I keep hearing that a good story is a good story regardless of what age it's aimed at. Maybe. I reread A Little Princess and The Secret Garden a couple years ago and they didn't live up to my memories. I loved them as a kid, I thought they were magical and fabulous. It makes me doubt that I should revisit old childhood classics.
I think there are some children's books that probably retain their magic. Picture books, like The Story of Ferdinand probably do more so than chapter books.
Here's that other thread:
Do you think less of people if they read shitty books?
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/4...
Do you think less of people if they read shitty books?
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/4...
Lobstergirl wrote: "Here's that other thread:
Do you think less of people if they read shitty books?
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/4..."
You are slowing down LG.
Do you think less of people if they read shitty books?
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/4..."
You are slowing down LG.
So, "historical fiction" has to be written now but taking place way back when? Like the cheesy period romance novels, only kid lit? Hmmm, can't think of a thing.


LAME!!! Who would make fun of you for that book, Smetchie?!! I'll beat them up. I LOVE that book. J'adore!
The Jungle, Bun? I'm trying to find an example that I have actually read so I have a feel for the genre.
That may be why I am having a hard time coming up with an example. I understand what you're saying are the parameters...I was just having trouble coming up with a familiar example.

Afterlands is a great example of historical fiction. It's a story written by a contemporary author about the Polaris expedition of 1871. The first part of the book is a retelling of the story of the people who were stranded on an ice floe. The second part of the book goes further than what is known from history and creates a storyline of what may have happened after they were rescued.
It is definitely not a YA historical fiction story.
Okay, Bun. So, I've been having a wee of a time on this First Reads thingy I never heard of? I think I've entered to win about 50 now. Sept, I was perusing the "Historical Fiction" section...just cause you put it on my mind and the new Jean Auel book...the next in the Clan of the Cave Bear (prehistoric porn...I know, I've read em all) series is listed there. They're giving away 25 copies. I wouldn't have really thought of them as "Historical Fiction" just plain "fiction" if you know what I mean.
Do clarify, its thowing what I thought I understood into a tail spin. It has to be based in actual reality / History, right? Not made up it could maybe have been this way from what scraps we've dug up kind of thing, right? I mean, Auel is just winging it for the most part based on some theories and her own imagination.
Do clarify, its thowing what I thought I understood into a tail spin. It has to be based in actual reality / History, right? Not made up it could maybe have been this way from what scraps we've dug up kind of thing, right? I mean, Auel is just winging it for the most part based on some theories and her own imagination.
Amelia wrote: "So, "historical fiction" has to be written now but taking place way back when? Like the cheesy period romance novels, only kid lit? Hmmm, can't think of a thing."
A good example of historical fiction is The Minister's Wooing by Harriet Beecher Stowe. Written in the 1850s, but it takes place in the 1790s. Some of the characters are fictional, some are real, like Aaron Burr, and the Puritan minister of the title. I love what she did with the Aaron Burr character.
A good example of historical fiction is The Minister's Wooing by Harriet Beecher Stowe. Written in the 1850s, but it takes place in the 1790s. Some of the characters are fictional, some are real, like Aaron Burr, and the Puritan minister of the title. I love what she did with the Aaron Burr character.
I wouldn't consider Clan of the Cave Bear historical fiction, because it's set in prehistoric times. Historical has to relate to written, recorded history.

Oops! Sorry, was transposing numbers or something when I was reading earlier. That's my excuse anyway.

Well there's good historical fiction and there's not so much good historical fiction. I mean if someone puts something out that claims to be historical fiction but is full of mistakes, the genre police aren't actually going to show up at their door.
But yeah, it should be based in actual history to the best of the author's ability. There are some things we just don't know about, but you shouldn't contradict the facts that are known."
Ooooh, your last sentence reminds me of why I wanted to throw The Other Boleyn Girl against the nearest wall.
I'm not sure I could read The Other Boleyn Girl. I love the Tudor time period too much. It would piss me off. I'm already irritated with the TV show for combining Margaret and Mary into one character and then killing her off BEFORE Wolsey died and never mentioning the fact that she (Mary, not Margaret who married a Scot) had 4 sons! ALSO, no wedding to an elderly Portuguese king...he was French and she didn't suffocate him with a pillow. Grrrrrr. The Tudors were perfectly dramatic enough on their own thank you, Hollywood!
Also, I put in for several books under the "Historical Fiction" heading on First Reads...so we'll see. If I win one then I'll have to see if it even really is Historical Fiction. :)
Also, I put in for several books under the "Historical Fiction" heading on First Reads...so we'll see. If I win one then I'll have to see if it even really is Historical Fiction. :)
How are they going to work that, I've actually thought about it. I mean, before long he's going to have to start getting fat...will they change actors, or get a fat suit?
He's much cuter to watch walk around without a shirt on, I think that was all they cared about...
Hahahahahahahahahahaha, Christina Ricci as MM. ARLOL, Seriously. I had a mental picture there that was worthy of a milk waterfall out of the nose!!!
Brits don't value the Gingers. I love red hair, personally. Casting directors are often over paid...
Brits don't value the Gingers. I love red hair, personally. Casting directors are often over paid...

The two biggest were writing Mary as Anne's younger sister and then asserting her children were Henry's.
Interesting...must add to Moleskine.
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And, Dutch...you're a curmudgeon. You don't like any books with a juvenile lead character? Harold and the purple crayon? Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? To Kill a Mockingbird???? You can't mean it! Say it isn't so!!