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message 1: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments If someone can summarize I would be most appreciative.


message 2: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments I believe that they are protesting because they want a democracy type of government.


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Egypt has long since been a dictatorship, from Nasser to Sadat and now Mubarak.

Yes, the turmoil in Tunisia has much to do with the uprising in Egypt, but Mubarak's dictatorship has a long history of suppressing opposition, denying human rights, and now with their economy faltering and unemployment at record highs, the people have had enough.

Al-Jazeera is providing live coverage of what's happening. I suggest you check in and see for yourselves what's happening.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

If Mubarak were to fall, the domino effect throughout the Middle East would be enormous.


message 4: by Cosmic Sher (new)

Cosmic Sher (sherart) | 2234 comments "If Mubarak were to fall, the domino effect throughout the Middle East would be enormous."
Can someone explain what this statement means for the slightly politically-ignorant people such as myself?


message 5: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24788 comments Mod
Mubarak has just announced he is dissolving his government. Which is a lot less radical than it sounds, as he will presumably be picking the new government, since he is a dictator. "The president -- who has been in power for 30 years -- then said he would form a new team, with a refocused mission acknowledging a popular desire for economic reforms, starting Saturday."

We'll see, I guess. Iran had all those street protests a few years ago and that didn't end up going anywhere.


message 6: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) This is bigger and more focused on his removal than ever before.


message 7: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
But why is it happening in Egypt and Tunisia all at once? Is that important?


message 8: by Félix (last edited Jan 28, 2011 08:22PM) (new)

Félix (habitseven) Young people seem to be fed up with oppressive governments. Facebook seems to be fueling the free flow of ideas about human rights.


message 9: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24788 comments Mod
Mohamed ElBaradei, a political reform advocate and Nobel Peace Prize laureate who returned to Egypt from abroad to participate, was soaked with a water cannon and later placed under house arrest, the Associated Press reported. ElBaradei, the former chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency, has said he wants to lead Egypt in a peaceful transition to democratic government.

This is interesting (to me, at least). ElBaradei was the guy who went into Iraq looking for WMD with Hans Blix and didn't find any, and publicly argued that the U.S. invasion was therefore unwarranted. He was naturally loathed by the Bush administration.


message 10: by [deleted user] (new)

The fear is that Mubarak's government will be replaced by hardline Islamicists, as BunWat mentioned. The primary opposition force is known as the Brotherhood of Islam; they possess a sinister sounding name, but in fact they've openly rejected the kind of Islamofascism favored by Al-Qaeda or the Taliban in favor for a more accepting secularism. But, being it's rooted in Islam, the West fears some kind of Islamist state like Iran, where it's suddenly open jihad season on the Western devils.


message 11: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) The whole this is disconcerting. It's hard to know exactly how to handle it so that we end up actually supporting the right people. We've screwed that one up more times than not.


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

El Baradei is the person the West should support. All he is asking for is political reform, and an end to the one-party dictatorship that passes for government in Egypt. The US is in a quandary because Egypt is an ally of Israel and one of the solidifying forces in the Middle East, but they can't continue to support a regime that has a long history of human rights abuses and voter fraud.


message 13: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11841 comments Is this for real, or was it doctored? My brother had it on his facebook page. Notice that FOX News appears to have no idea where Egypt is actually situated.




message 14: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments they should be VERY ashamed of themselves. the sad thing is a lot of people won't even notice.


message 15: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24788 comments Mod
I have to think it's doctored. Even if your low-level graphics coordinator/producer doesn't know where Egypt is, don't they already have stock digital maps made by someone who does? Or a map company?


message 16: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11841 comments I googled it and found a link to huff-po that says it was a real FOX mistake, but it happened two years ago when they were trying to identify Iraq.

Total gaffe but not current.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01...


message 17: by Lori (new)

Lori He resigned! All eyes on the military now...


message 18: by Cosmic Sher (new)

Cosmic Sher (sherart) | 2234 comments Wow. This is amazing. I know I don't fully grasp what this truly means, but it kinda hits me that we're witnessing some incredible history here.

I was watching Craig Ferguson who interviewed Dr. Kara Cooney, Egyptologist at UCLA, and she said that the whole situation has taken them by surprise. They knew this was eventually coming but didn't predict the way it has now unfolded. She said that many of her collegues & friends in Egypt have told her that "for every person looting there are a thousand Egyptians ready to defend their national treasures". They are forming human chains around the museum and, in fact, looters tried to break into the Luxor Temple but the neighborhood people came out in force to stop them. Her contacts over there also said they suspect that these particular looters were Mubarak's men, as they had heavy equipment & were rappelling down the building. I just love that the people are banding together to take back their country & protect what they love. Beautiful!

Here's the vid for any who want to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf3iO4...


message 19: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Colbert had a really excellent guest on the other night. I felt like I learned more about the situation from him than I had from anything else.

I think this particular military does have a chance of doing right by the people. It's a different dynamic than most.


message 20: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24788 comments Mod
CBS News reporter Lara Logan beaten, sexually assaulted during Cairo celebrations

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/...


message 21: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments We could learn a lot from the way they handled themselves.


message 22: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11841 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "CBS News reporter Lara Logan beaten, sexually assaulted during Cairo celebrations

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/..."


Sick, sick, sick.


message 23: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Compare that with what is happening in Bahrain. It makes a difference when the military is on the side of the people.


message 24: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24788 comments Mod
In Bahrain riot police apparently just killed several sleeping protesters.


message 25: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments Thanks for sharing Bun.


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