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Murray Gunn (murraygunn) | 211 comments Tracey wrote: "it seems the whole world is trending towards a globalized [made that word up] language and idioms"

No you didn't. You just used the American spelling of 'globalised'!


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BlueSky We are all so diverse in our perceptions aren't we! I rather like the rolling amble of an echidna ... they are amazing little creatures. There are very few native animals I don't find beautiful. Even snakes have their own beauty. Although Death Adders look rather punchy little individuals!! And I don't like crocs ...


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Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments I love the way an echidna walks - and freezes rather dopishly in the middle of a trail when you come upon it as if you won't see it standing there. But, sorry, I can't classify them as beautiful. Wonderful, yes, a beauty - nah.


message 54: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Alley (traceya) | 485 comments Murray wrote: "Tracey wrote: "it seems the whole world is trending towards a globalized [made that word up] language and idioms"

No you didn't. You just used the American spelling of 'globalised'!"


Oh now I'm really embarrassed **blushing**


message 55: by BlueSky (new)

BlueSky Laura last week I had a python do the same when I was walking ... it was crossing the track ahead of me and just froze and pretended he was a stick. Then would inch forward a little and stop again. I could almost hear him thinking "You can't see me ... you can't see me ..." Ha ha it was so funny. Finally I got tired of waiting and just skirted around the back of him. Hmmm I must google to see what kind of snake he was - he was a very pretty soft grey/blue, and non-aggressive.


message 56: by BlueSky (last edited Dec 03, 2010 12:35AM) (new)

BlueSky Oops! Have unintentionally high-jacked the thread :o}

Carmel, I used to be terrified of snakes but after living in semi rural areas for most of my married life I have learned most snakes are more concerned about getting out of your way instead of attacking you. If the snake had been a Death Adder, Dugite (Brown Snake) or Tiger Snake I would have been backing away at a great rate of knots! (And probably have to change my undies afterwards) lol

Now ... Back to those Yanks and what we are adopting from their language. :)


message 57: by Neko (new)

Neko Carmel wrote: "A little treat for you Janet & others!
We certainly have some beautiful native animals:

Take 2 - hopefully this will work,if not I'll have to try at home!





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Some very nice photos there! :)

Baby puggles...erm...baby Platytpus! I think they are ugly cute..ehehe...Reminds me of those dogs that have tuns of folds for skin/fur (can't remember their names at the moment).

Tassie has some terrible snakes but I don't think I've come across one..*phew* Snakes scare/worry me.


message 58: by Mandapanda (last edited Dec 03, 2010 02:16PM) (new)

Mandapanda Carmel wrote: "A little treat for you Janet & others!We certainly have some beautiful native animals: Take 2 - hopefully this will work,if not I'll have to try at home!"


Carmel that is the best photo of platypus that I've ever seen. Aren't they the cutest things!! And I agree with Bluesky, the way an echidna walks is funny and endearing - kind of like a toddler stumbling his way around.

A few years ago I was lucky enough to see a platypus in the wild at Carnarvon Gorge near Injune in Qld (worth visiting). I was amazed how tiny they are.

Carmel can you save these photos and the one of the kangaroo into our group photos?


message 59: by [deleted user] (new)

Carmel would you mind if I posted the platypus photo in another group I am in? I know they will go ape over it.


message 60: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Alley (traceya) | 485 comments Off topic I know but that's one thing I've always wished I could do - take great photos. Mine all suck, without exception. The last time I bought a camera, just before trip to Fiji I told the salesman I wanted a completely, totally idiot proof camera and he laughed, then realised I was serious :) Then I told him the idiot was me. Still didn't work. Oh well, one day I'll take a course... back to the discussion


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Tracey Alley (traceya) | 485 comments Carmel wrote: "Can't be good at everything Tracey!!"

Too true Carmel but I do like to try something new and different every year, just for fun


message 62: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Alley (traceya) | 485 comments Judging by the 'roo pic I'd say great shots. I have an uncle, getting on in years now, who was a professional photographer all his working life and he hates digital cameras - still does old fashioned black and white film shots even that he develops himself. They are lovely though.


message 63: by Mandapanda (new)

Mandapanda In today's Sydney Morning Herald. A controversial review of Hugh Lunn's book, Words Fail Me: A Journey Through Australia's Lost Language by an expat Australian academic.

Fair suck of the sav, says outraged author

"Hugh Lunn, journalist and author, has collected Australia's ''lost language'' - the vernacular that is dying with our older generations - in his best-selling book Lost for Words and its sequel, Words Fail Me.

Now he is preparing to sue the magazine The Monthly for a savage review of the new book by an expat-Australian academic, Peter Conrad, who calls it 'a little sinister'.

Conrad, who left Tasmania in 1968 and teaches at Oxford University, wrote in The Monthly last month that Lunn, a Queenslander, 'has taken on the persona of a philologic Pauline Hanson', 'fantasies about an Australia hunched inside its rabbit-proof fence' and 'is leading a peasants' revolt against multiculturalism and its dilution of Australian integrity'."

Ouch! Just what we love, a literary 'blue'! Read more here.


message 64: by Mandapanda (new)

Mandapanda Carmel wrote: "Mandy you don't happen to have a link for the actual full review do you? - I suppose being in the magazine it would be difficult to get."

I can't get the full copy of Peter Conrad's review but here is the website of The.Monthy magazine. And here is one of many blog sites that are discussing Peter Conrad‘s article. It has more of an excerpt of what the reviewer said.

I love a good verbal stoush. It really proves that the pen is mightier than the sword!!


message 65: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79977 comments Mod
Carmel wrote: "A little treat for you Janet & others!
We certainly have some beautiful native animals:

Take 2 - hopefully this will work,if not I'll have to try at home!

OMG!!! How cuuutte!!!! Oh, I wanna have them...:) Where did you get the opportunity of holding them, Carmel??



"



message 66: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79977 comments Mod
Oh, yes, definitely precious!!! Yes, I continued reading through the thread, after I made my comment, and saw you had taken the pics from the internet. Also that you had personally taken the roo and joey...that was an amazing photo Carmel! You did extremely well! Love, love, love our Aussie animals (well, most of them anyway) :)


message 67: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79977 comments Mod
Right there, Carmel :)


message 68: by Monya (new)

Monya (monyamary) Tracey wrote: "Judging by the 'roo pic I'd say great shots. I have an uncle, getting on in years now, who was a professional photographer all his working life and he hates digital cameras - still does old fashio..."

Off topic again, I know. My digital camera is one my son the I.T. pro bought from a garage sale for 50 cents. "Old" model. After the new one he gave me for Christmas the previous year died... Now he's saying "You need a new camera" and I won't be surprised if he gives me one THIS Christmas. But mine works, and for a technologically challenged old lady I do fairly well with it.

Mandy & everyone - may have to start a new topic on this. But like most of my generation I was raised to get maximum use out of everything. My adult children are pretty down to earth (except I.T. son with anything electronic) but our grandchildren are SO Generation Y it scares me! ("Nana, why have you still got that old thing?" "Because it works!")

End of tirade. You may now kick me off the thread.


message 69: by Mandapanda (new)

Mandapanda Monya wrote: "Mandy & everyone - may have to start a new topic on this. But like most of my generation I was raised to get maximum use out of everything. My adult children are pretty down to earth (except I.T. son with anything electronic) but our grandchildren are SO Generation Y it sc..."

Yes I think a discussion of cameras and technology is getting a bit off topic and could confuse newcomers to this thread. Maybe if you want to keep talking cameras you could move to the general chat thread!;D


message 70: by Murray (new)

Murray Gunn (murraygunn) | 211 comments Tracey wrote: "Oh now I'm really embarrassed **blushing** "

Tracey, you definitely didn't make the word up, but it may not be as American as I thought. My Oxford dictionary lists words with 'ize' and has '(-ise)' to show an alternate spelling.. I wonder if this means that Australia has taken the ise up as standard to differentiate ourselves or if the English had been Americanis/zed long before us...


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Interesting spin Murray, I do know when I am spelling things I immediately go for the s key rather than the z. It's as if I have reduced the alphabet to 25 letters.


message 72: by [deleted user] (new)

I vaguely remember on one of the rare times I was at lower grade school I wrote something that ended in 'ize' (I've a feeling the word was surprise) & the teacher at the time, who I recall could have been in her late 60's, exploded at me saying 'you don't live in America so stop spelling like one, so we are talking of a gap of approximately 100 years, so our 'ise' has been around for quite some time, I think the Americans changed to 'ize' when they started with the 'spell as it sounds' aspect, again, quite some time ago, even as a child I remember comments from Aussies & British about how they were ruining good english, also I noticed in some of Shakespeares early writings he used 'ise'.

I don't think it's at any level where we are losing our identity or culture because of it. I've always consider the Australian language and culture to be a mixture of different cultures anyway

Polk, I respecfully agree & disagree with your comment, yes! Australia was built on a mixture of different cultures, but, it is language we are talking about here & I do feel we are rapidly loosing our iconic Aussie vernacular, I can't see how old you are so, I don't know if you were around when after WW2 we had an influx of european migrants, they retained a big part of their culture, but made a huge effort to be 'Aussie's' to the extent that, many, were teaching their children & vice-versa to speak Aussie, eg. G'day, bloke, mob, sheila, slab, mate etc. unlike so many arriving here today, in a way America is taking over, not by force, but by us being bombarded with their way of life, don't get me wrong I admire many of our American friends & the lifstyle they have held to, but it is their life not ours, we never used to play baseball, basketball, gridiron, etc, we would only here the occasional American song on the radio, we would only see the occasional American T.V. show, & we retained our unique vernacular, today though, so many young & some not so young talk the Americal talk & walk the American walk, dress the American dress, so, oh! yes! we, as 'Aussies' are loosing very quickly our language, lifstyle, & 'Australian' old fashioned values.

I respect anyones culture & they should remain proud of it, but, lets not loose our unique, world known, language.

Mate, I sure hope 'she'll be right' Eh!


message 73: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 06, 2010 03:05PM) (new)

You raise some excellent points Polk and I could not agree more. One thing I would like to add (I am somewhere in between you and David, though I am not disclosing where.) The attitude to being Australian has changed a lot. This is just my impression. We are far more proud to be Australian than we have ever been. When I was a kid we suffered from cultural cringe.


message 74: by [deleted user] (new)

G'day Polk, good comment mate, & yes, there will undoubtedly be generation gaps (my old man hated my long hair & the music I listened to back then).

Most of America has not lost it's language & or cultures, look at the difference between the north & the south, most european countries have not lost their language & or cultures, I would hate to see Australia become another America, this is why 99% of my writings contain 'aussie' vernacular.

I too have heard many younger aussies use 'aussie' words then with their next breath use guy's, dudes, bro. etc. it is a shame they copy but Que sera sera.


message 75: by Geoff (new)

Geoff Woodland | 313 comments Perhaps the Americanisation started a lot earlier. The current Labor Party (now in Government) used to be known as the Labour Party and changed its name from Labour to Labor around 1908. It is thought that the Australian Labour party was influenced by the American Labor movement and so they changed their name to the American spelling. There was an American born influential party member at that time who influenced the change. King O'Malley was his name - that sounds like a song!
When the political party refers to the labour movement they spell it 'correctly' :-o)
Although I use UK English when I write, often the spell checker will offer an American spelling (color etc), but I just add the English spelling and the system remembers.
Life evolves, but I do have tendency to hang on, to what I consider, is the correct way to spell, pronounce & use words e.g how many times to do we hear / or read in the media that something is 'very unique' - something is either unique or it isn't - so it can not be 'very' unique. The number of newspaper 'opinion' makers (Sydney Morning Herald comes to mind) who end a sentence with a preposition is frightening. The newspaper opinion makers are considered the cream of the crop . . . . . . :-o(
I think the Americanisation (which isn't the Yank's fault) is part of a major change in our society. It is our fault for accepting the change and substituting the American way for the Ozzy way.
Perhaps start a list of Americanisms -

What ever -
I'm on it (after one has been asked to do something)
December 6 as against 6th December
Fries - hot chips in Oz & chips in the UK
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I'm sure there are many more


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Onya Geoff, well said, yes I agree it is what our media outlets have 'pushed' onto us as to what we are 'picking up' in our language.

One of my pet hates is the 9-11 or 24-7.

the rare times I do go to MacDonalds, I always ask for chips, & when I'm asked 'do you mean fries?' I say NO! I asked for chips. hehehehe what a pain I can be (-:

I've noticed a 'new' one on the scene, if someone makes a mistake they say 'my bad', I then say 'you mean you made a mistake'. hehehe!!


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Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments David wrote: "Onya Geoff, well said, yes I agree it is what our media outlets have 'pushed' onto us as to what we are 'picking up' in our language.

One of my pet hates is the 9-11 or 24-7.

the rare times I..."


In my mind "chips" and "fries" are actually different things. Maccas sells fries that are thin and long. Chips are much thicker though nothing as weighty as wedges.

A friend of mine (True Blue where I'm just an import) told me that she uses the term "cookies" for those lumpy chocolate chip things that you get from Mrs. Fields and such. "Biscuits" she insisted, are smaller and less gooey. She swears (she's in her 70s) that there were no "cookies" when she was growing up so using that word for the new, high calorie (and tasty) import works for her.

So, in some cases are Americanisms really a bit shifted on the grey scale between black and white?


message 78: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 05, 2010 09:45PM) (new)

G'day laura, I too have been guilty of calling cookies, 'cookies' because that's what is written on the packet, but, when the same are tipped out into our 'biscuit tin' I call them 'biscuits', s'pose it depends on what one has grown up with.

My 'Nan' used to make the best chocolate chip biscuits & ANZAC biscuits.

I also used to live nexr door to a fish & chip shop & the bloke there used to slice his chips about the same size as Macca's & everyone agreed 'old Deno' (Mr. Dean) had the best chips around.


message 79: by Laura (last edited Dec 05, 2010 09:47PM) (new)

Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments David, how did Nan's bikkies compare to Mrs. Fields cookies? Just as bendy? Or a bit more crunchy? I'm not convinced, but my friend seems adamant that that's the differentiator.

And, for the record, my Nan's chocolate chip cookies weren't all that chewy.


message 80: by Laura (new)

Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments Polk wrote: "In my mind "chips" and "fries" are actually different things. Maccas sells fries that are thin and long. Chips are much thicker though nothing as weighty as wedges.

You are spot on. Those types o..."


Which leads us to a new thread (that I'm not game to start), "Is our Aussie diet being 'Americanised'". Probably not a very interesting thread anyway since the obvious answer is 'absolutely!'


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Nan's were crunchy melt in your mouth type.

& sorry you 2 but to me a chip is a chip is a chip LOL!!


message 82: by Laura (new)

Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments Unless, I assume, it's a wedge!


message 83: by Geoff (new)

Geoff Woodland | 313 comments The one thing that my wife & I missed when in the UK last year was the salads of Australia - they are so FRESH! & varied. The salads supplied in pubs etc were not a patch on the Oz salads.
But I do miss Cheshire cheese in Australia :-o)


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LOL!!!...OK, unless it is a wedge (-:


message 85: by Laura (new)

Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments Geoff wrote: "The one thing that my wife & I missed when in the UK last year was the salads of Australia - they are so FRESH! & varied. The salads supplied in pubs etc were not a patch on the Oz salads.
But I do..."


Geoff, not to be controversial, but when I first moved to Aus (Melbourne) back in 1988 I bemoaned the loss of the great US salads. The ones I got in Australia seemed paltry in comparrison. They seem to have grown in size and availability in the past couple of decades.

Thank God 'salad' is 'salad' in US, UK and even Aussie-speak. Though in Australia there is the bizarre habit of putting 'beetroot' (as opposed to 'beets' which no sane Yank would ever add to a salad) on salads.


message 86: by Geoff (new)

Geoff Woodland | 313 comments I agree with you on the 9/11 & the 24/7 rubbish. Is it 9th of November or 11th Sept ??
How about 'bottom of the hour' (or top etc)or ten past the hour instead of ten past three (or what ever the hour is.)
& biscuits are baked twice, hence the name, they are not cookies.
The sun is over the yard arm, so this GOM is off to open the bar. At least BAR is the same in Pommie land, Yankee land and Oz :-o)


message 87: by Geoff (new)

Geoff Woodland | 313 comments Polk, considering the adopted words we now have in the English language I don't think new words are a problem.
garage - French
bungalow - Hindi
cha - Hindi via China
kahki- Hindi
aperitif - French
carte blanche - French
kudos - Greek
confetti - Italian
Assassin - Arabic
I was referring to the media thinking that it is 'smart' to use American phrases to create a mid Pacific culture when a perfectly good Australian phrase / word can be used. Cookie & biscuit comes to mind.
The importing of another culture's word for something that we don't have enriches us. We have many French phrases / words for a situation where we didn't have the equivalent English phrase or word. How would we describe conffeti in English :-o)


message 88: by Monya (new)

Monya (monyamary) Geoff wrote: "Perhaps the Americanisation started a lot earlier. The current Labor Party (now in Government) used to be known as the Labour Party and changed its name from Labour to Labor around 1908. It is thou..."

Hi Geoff - another for your list. We used to say, "Are you up (equal) to it?" Now they say, "Are you up FOR it?"

Journalists - I can never read a newspaper or watch a news edition without cringing. AND I wish the newspaper types were still taught shorthand. Only the really big ones have recording implements. On the occasions I've been interviewed by reporters for country papers, they've always made rough notes and relied on their memories. And ALWAYS got something wrong.

Monya (aka Mary)


message 89: by Laura (last edited Dec 05, 2010 10:59PM) (new)

Laura Rittenhouse | 200 comments We need a better national dictionary to help us defend against Americanisms. I'm an author and when I set a book in Aus, I worry that my Yank background will show through and I get Aussies to proof and give me feedback. A couple of points I recently asked yeilded startling (IMHO) results:

It's acceptable for an Australian to put his dog on a 'leash'. That's what I said in America but in Aus I've adopted 'lead'. No idea why if 'leash' will do.

I use 'sofa' in Australia as opposed to my more American tendancy to say 'couch'. Well, apparently 'couch' is Australian. Who uses 'sofa'? Is that the English?

I think a lot of this stuff varies with time and quite possibly region. (Some people smoke 'smokes', to others it's 'ciggies' while some still cling to their 'fags' - those are the slangs I was told are the 'correct' usage by friends from Darwin, Perth and Melbourne respectively - none of which are used in the US I believe).


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Carmel wrote: "I've missed this thread all day today, so have just had a quick squiz to catch up.
Personally, I really don't like the term fries - chips all the way for me! I have fond memories from my youth of..."


Hahahaha!!..I never said I like 'dishes' or washing up. I'm so glad we have a dishwasher, I'm from a large family & we had a weekly roster on the fridge when & who did the washing up, who did the drying, who cleaned off the table etc.


message 91: by Mandapanda (new)

Mandapanda Polk wrote: "Who we are as a nation is defined by a myriad of different cultures. That's really what makes Australia unique—that's our identity. It's not the language because not everyone uses the language. Nobody is 'more' Australian than someone else. The language we speak doesn't define who we are as people or as a Nation, rather language evolves as society does. The language we speak is dictated largely by 'the times' so to speak..."

Polk you've expressed your POV in a very inspiring way. Thanks for that and I totally agree with you!


message 92: by Murray (new)

Murray Gunn (murraygunn) | 211 comments Monya wrote: "Hi Geoff - another for your list. We used to say, "Are you up (equal) to it?" Now they say, "Are you up FOR it?""

I would have said that these mean different things. 'Are you up to it?' is, as you say, a question of ability whereas 'are you up for it?' is a question of desire. So I agree with Geoff that we import words/phrases to cover concepts we don't have.

I think you're right, Polk. The language will evolve and it will always be unique to an extent. I respect people's right to like American music and use American spelling / slang, but it will always bother me.


message 93: by Neko (new)

Neko Hehehe, my partner is american...We have a great ol'giggle over words that differ in each of our cultures but mean exactly the same thing.

Flash Light and Torch is also one that crops up.

Receipt and Docket

Gas Station and Petrol Station

How are you going and How are you doing

Jam and Jelly

When it comes to Fries and Chips...I'll just call em Chippies instead...Confuses many but I think it's funny.

Chips can be confusing I guess cause here we also have potato chips which in England are known as Crisps which neither Australia or Americans use. So it's like Chips here can mean = (Hot)Chips/Fries/Potato Chips...Just kinda learn which is which.

I've noticed more and more people using the term soda which I still call 'fizzy drink' more often than not.

I'm guilty of calling biccies, cookies instead. But I usually call my cats dry biscuits biccies..lol

And then there is the word candy for lollies...I still use the word lollies and prolly will never switch to fully saying candy.

One thing I get teased about is rubber which people always refer to as easer. I don't know if the term rubber is Australian or I just picked it up from my family but people in the usa and people in australia think I'm going to rub out with a condom..lol XD

Just on some of the terms I mentioned have been slowly oozing into our language but I still think we'll never get rid of our Aussie language.


message 94: by Monya (new)

Monya (monyamary) Polk wrote: "It's hard for me to comment on the language and culture of this country because I'm 25 years old. There's a 30 year gap between the time you were born and I. Because of this I imagine we would have..."

In the 1920s Australians still thought of themselves as British, of the U.K. as "the mother country", and if anyone took a voyage there they were going "home". We were part of the Empire and proud of it. (No, I wasn't born in the 1920s, but in 1941.) And at the beginning of W.W.II the P.M. Robert Menzies said something like, "Britain is at war, therefore we are at war" and "We will support her to the last man and the last shilling."

Change began in the 1950s with the European migrations. We were so insular we despised them for a long time. Even so, in my home town of 30,000 it was unusual to meet any nationality of immigrant but British. NOW - in a small town of 1200 country people we have an Indian doctor, an African chemist, Filipino wives, and don't even blink!

You're right, Polk. Times change!

And Gail 'cyborg', you're right we're now proud to be Australian, when once we were famous for our national inferiority complex.

Monya (aka Mary)


message 95: by Monya (new)

Monya (monyamary) Geoff wrote: "Polk, considering the adopted words we now have in the English language I don't think new words are a problem.
garage - French
bungalow - Hindi
cha - Hindi via China
kahki- Hindi
aperitif - French
..."


Geoff - did you ever see that T.V. series on the English language on SBS a few years ago? I just loved it, it explained so much. English is noted for its flexibility, which is why we complain about it changing. Though change is one thing, and ignorance about spelling and grammar quite another.

But be comforted about the hordes of French words in the language. We are revenged! French is a 'fixed' language but in the electronic age has been forced to adopt English words like 'computer' and many more. I recall an email that did the rounds informing all of us they couldn't make up their minds whether 'computer' should be preceded by the masculine 'le' or the feminine 'la'. Don't know what they ended up with but do know that thousands of English words have now infiltrated THEIR language.

Just like redback spiders arrived in Japan via some of our imports and are thriving...

Monya (aka Mary)


message 96: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) Jam has fruit bits in it. Jelly has been strained.


message 97: by Neko (new)

Neko Carmel wrote: Laura said:"One thing I get teased about is rubber which people always refer to as easer. I don't know if the term rubber is Australian or I just picked it up from my family but people in the usa and people in australia think I'm going to rub out with a condom..lol XD:
Laura, I still call it an rubber too, and your comment made me laugh, because whenever I say it it makes me think nowadays it is generally taken as the US meaning & it's not good if you call out at work "can I have my rubber back please or can I borrow your rubber please" ha ha It's silly i know but it makes you actually think twice about your own language which is a shame.


Hahaha..I can imagine the looks at work. I'm just waiting for the day when someone grabs a little square packet and throws it towards me..lol

Funny thing about the term rubber is it seems to freak everyone out as well. It's not like using the word soda for fizzy drink..This one will make everyone stop and go WTF do you mean?! lol

Ah well, Carmel, we gotta keep people on their toes about that one..hahaha


message 98: by [deleted user] (new)

Now there is an example of Americanisims taking over a lot of our traditional words, it was sooooo common that 'rubber' meant exactly, 'a rubber for rubbing out penciled mistakes' now this innocent term has taken on a sexual Connotation.


message 99: by Geoff (new)

Geoff Woodland | 313 comments Monya,
No I didn't see the program - I wish I'd seen it.

......................................................

I suppose we could extend the chat from the Americanisation of Australia to the 'Antipodian' alteration of the English language being so far from Britain.
For example - I had to change my pronunciation of certain words so as to 'fit in'.

I soon picked up 'Shout' as against 'Round' in a pub - got to get the important bits right first :-o)

In England we would ask for a custard tart, in Australia it is a custard pie, but pronounced as 'poy' as in 'boy' (this was Melbourne)

Chips in Oz are crisps in England - hot chips in Oz are chips in England.

The colour maroon is pronounced mar-oon (as in moon) but Downunder it is mor-own

Yogut (Turkish word) is e-og (as in agog) -ut in England, but in Oz it is E-ow-gut.

Nestlé's - was pronounced Nessels, but when we arrived in Melbourne is was Nes-lay, I am not sure
if this was due to the Swiss owner changing the pronunciation to the French way to standardise the name around the world.

Like Carmel - rubber / selotape, created laughter.

I can never remember the size of a 'glass', 'schooner', 'midi' - I just ask for a large glass and let the barman work it out.

I am still picked as a POM in Oz - but in the UK my friends commented that I speak with an Aussie accent. I did notice that I used Australian words & phrases during conversation in the UK. After a couple of weeks I became more Pommie and had to relearn everything on our return :-o)

It has been said that Australia is the half way house between the UK & the USA, but after living here, I disagree. Australia has its own unique place in the world. Why live anywhere else after experiencing Downunder?


message 100: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 06, 2010 03:13PM) (new)

Good one Geoff, & another thing mate, in Aus & in a pub, when you have had enough do not turn your glass upside down onto the bar. LOL!! I've seen some poms & kiwis do this, created a bit of excitment let me tell you LOL!!. oh! & I've always called nessels, nessels.


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