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message 51: by Wayne (new)

Wayne McCoy (geekwayne) | 45 comments Actually, it looks like those are re-airings of the first season (that's what I see when I look up the schedule in my area). Still, if you haven't seen this series it is very, very good, and worth re-watching to catch the subtleties of Martin Freeman's many expressions.


message 52: by Andy (new)

Andy Runton | 19 comments The newest episode with Adler is SO good! It's the best episode, by far. So complex! So delightful!!! Everyone should travel to England to see it. ;) There's a new episode is on Sunday and I can't wait!!!


message 53: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 7230 comments The guy that plays dr watson (martin freeman) was just on the graham norton show on bbc america with the lady (karen gillan) from dr who.


message 54: by Paul (new)

Paul  Perry (pezski) | 493 comments Tamahome wrote: "The guy that plays dr watson (martin freeman) was just on the graham norton show on bbc america with the lady (karen gillan) from dr who."

Interesting that Martin Freeman will have portrayed two iconic SFF characters soon - Bilbo Baggins and Arthur Dent. Although I suspect The Hobbit will be rather better than Hitch Hikers...


message 55: by Lloyd (new)

Lloyd | 2 comments Not only that he's also Scotty in the new Star Trek films too


message 56: by Walter (new)

Walter (walterwoods) | 144 comments Lloyd wrote: "Not only that he's also Scotty in the new Star Trek films too"

That's Simon Pegg


message 57: by Doug (new)

Doug (theonceandfuturedoug) Walter wrote: "Lloyd wrote: "Not only that he's also Scotty in the new Star Trek films too"

That's Simon Pegg"


You know what they say, all Englishmen look the same.


message 58: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 7230 comments I loved Martin Freeman in Hot Fuzz!


message 59: by Melissa (new)

Melissa | 50 comments Sorry to dissapoint, but the Sherlock episodes scheduled for January are repeats of Season One. We do not get Season Two until May.


message 60: by Dana (new)

Dana Baker | 11 comments ARRRGHHH!!!!! Wayne is right - the new episodes don;t air in the US until May - a crushing blow - I was so looking forward to it this evening. I guess I will have to troll the interwebs and find it. I know my daughter has watched it online somewhere - she is an even bigger geek for this series than I am (although I think it has something more to do with Benedict Cumberbatch than Sherlock...)


message 61: by Doug (new)

Doug (theonceandfuturedoug) There are places and ways of seeing these things online... You just know whom to ask. >.>


message 62: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Curtis (kingtriton92) | 62 comments "There are places and ways of seeing these things online... You just know whom to ask."

Sounds like a line from Neverwhere.


message 63: by Doug (new)

Doug (theonceandfuturedoug) It very well might be. I read that book years ago and absolutely loved it. It was my introduction to the world of Neil Gaiman.


message 64: by Kate (new)

Kate O'Hanlon (kateohanlon) | 778 comments I'm a bit of an emotional wreck after the finale.


How long til the next series?


message 65: by Doug (new)

Doug (theonceandfuturedoug) Word on the Interlink is early 2013. So, basically, thanks to the Mayans, never.


message 66: by Joseph (new)

Joseph The 2nd Season of 'Sherlock' (as its called here...do you guys get a different one?) was, excuse my french, FUCKING AMAZING.

Its easily the best thing Moffat has ever done, or ever will do I think. Everything about it is pure brilliance and genius.

Andrew Scott as Moriarty is just mindblowing.

I know you have to wait till May...the DVD comes out the end of the month here, if you have a region 2 or 4 DVD player you might get lucky with that..or the perfectly legal content online of course.. :D


message 67: by Doug (new)

Doug (theonceandfuturedoug) Nah, it's just called Sherlock here as well. But most Americans refer to the character rather than the show, it seems.

(view spoiler)


message 68: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments OMG!!! I love this show so much. Arthur Dent as Watson is brilliant.


message 69: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 7230 comments I hope Veronica enjoyed her trip to the U.K.!


message 70: by Kate (new)

Kate O'Hanlon (kateohanlon) | 778 comments Doug wrote:

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message 71: by Doug (new)

Doug (theonceandfuturedoug) @Kate: (view spoiler)


message 72: by Jim (new)

Jim (kskryptonian) | 202 comments I just got back from my friend's house in Cardiff where I watch all my favorite brit TV shows, and I have to say that Sherlock is ten times better than Steampunk Iron Man Holmes, except for the last on in Series 2. It felt like the writer for that one didn't give enough clues to show how he pulled off the thing he did that I will not discuss, but is all over tumblr now. Baskerville was perfection in updating and Irene Adler's message tone is now on my iPhone from episode one!

If you don't have a friend in Cardiff with a slingbox, I know for a fact that Netflix has series one. I think my favorite part about the modern interpretation is that no one in the 1800-1900's would have bat an eye at two men as roomates, but now the film and tv version have to make it either a joke or a statement about their sexual orientation. Guy Ritchie didn't even make it subtle. And Mr. Martin Freeman is so believable and humorous when he denies they are a couple, and then just rolls his eyes when no one believes him.

I also loved the "Mary Problem" was addressed. Doyle made a slight error in the original stories where John was married. If put in chronological order instead of written order, John is married to Mary, a bachelor in 221B and then married to Mary again. Either there was a period of seperation, or as my wife likes to theorize, John has a thing for women named Mary. In the steampunk Iron Man Holmes, he gets married to Mary in the second one, assuming it was the same woman in the Doyle stories.

Sherlock the series had a Mary in the first series, but he didn't get married. If we see a different actress in the part in series 3 (which was commissioned when series 2 was and just not advertised) then it means they are going with my wife's theory that John just likes girls named Mary.

(Visiting Cardiff is a great euphamism, innit)


message 73: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments I love this show but I almost wish that Moffet would use the short stories more to create an actual series instead of focusing on the novels to make one hour specials. I just want more of this Watson and Holmes on my telly.


message 74: by Jim (new)

Jim (kskryptonian) | 202 comments Jessica wrote: "I love this show but I almost wish that Moffet would use the short stories more to create an actual series instead of focusing on the novels to make one hour specials. I just want more of this Wats..."

That's what Graham Norton said. To which Freeman responded "Bleep you I won a Bafta!"


message 75: by Stan (last edited Jan 17, 2012 12:02PM) (new)

Stan Slaughter | 359 comments *SIGH*. Too bad the new episodes won't make the US until May :(


message 76: by Ken (new)

Ken (KGratten) | 34 comments Well, I made a quick "trip" to England this weekend to watch all 3 episodes for season 2. In short, eps 1 and 3 were excellent. Not so much for ep 2. It fell a bit flat for me. It didn't help that I was pretty sure exactly what was happening fairly early on. Having said that, a meh episode of Sherlock sure is better than 95% of most shows.

I'm glad Moffet let us know that they've been picked up for season 3 (I never doubted it). I'm just hoping the stars aren't getting so busy we'll never see it.


message 77: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 7230 comments Can you pick up Blue Remembered Earth the next time you go?


message 78: by Jessica (last edited Jan 17, 2012 12:41PM) (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments Bakersville fully lived up to my expectations. The novel is one of my favourite Holmes stories A Study in Scarlet begin the other the episode for which was also amazing.


message 79: by Kate (new)

Kate O'Hanlon (kateohanlon) | 778 comments Jim wrote: "It felt like the writer for that one didn't give enough clues to show how he pulled off the thing he did that I will not discuss, but is all over tumblr now. "

Not enough clues? I thought too many clues, I've listed out all that I can think of here
http://keyboardandcouch.blogspot.com/... (spoilers, obviously)

The work for next year is sorting the real clues from the red herrings, but there's more than enough here for the writers to have laid the ground work for a plausible explanation.


message 80: by Andy (new)

Andy Runton | 19 comments I popped over to England to watch the Season 2 finale and it... was.... incredible.
Absolutely the best show on TV, hands down.

I can't wait until May when Tom sees it and we can talk all about it!!!


message 81: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments I don't really care that Yanks cant see our television at the same time. I pay my taxes and in tern I get great programming. Our government wants to sell you our programming but they feel a right to give it to us first since we pay for their salaries. So.... I guess you have to wait to see it. Sorry?


message 82: by Ken (new)

Ken (KGratten) | 34 comments Hmmm, so the fact that quite a few BBC productions are subsidized by investments from BBC Worldwide, thus allowing for more and better content on the BBC, means that those of us living outside the UK but paying our cable/satellite bills to subscribe to local BBC Worldwide affiliates means we don't count as much? (we dont't) How about the fact that BBC Worldwide often takes in far more money for the distribution of BBC media via various markets than the BBC gets from its UK licensees? Also, let us not forget that taxes are paid on these deals by BBC Worldwide. So this, to me, means us Yanks should be getting our Sherlock on MUCH sooner than May. And don't even get me started on their delay for Top Gear. A crime, I tells ya.

But seriously, I expect you Brits to get the shows before us. I'm sure most people feel the same. It just makes me to scratch my head when there's such a massive delay. It's counter-productive. Those who really want to see it aren't going to wait the interminable time it takes for BBC Worldwide or their licensees to give it to us.


message 83: by Ken (new)

Ken (KGratten) | 34 comments I forgot to add, why don't we get Qi over here? Come on, BBC! I need more Stephen Fry. And where else will I get the opportunity to relive my childhood fascination with Snigglets while watching Rich Hall look nonplussed at all those obscure British references? However, thanks to nickfromfulham and youtube I'm able to keep up.


message 84: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments Fees collected by BBC Worldwide aren't supposed to pay for anything but the content on those worldwide outlets. In Britain we pay a premium for just having a television and all those fees are meant to insure we have programming that we will actually watch. I'm not saying that we shouldn't allow that programming to be bought by Americans but I don't necessarily think that just because BBC Worldwide is part of a digital package of content from your cable and satellite providers that you are somehow entitled to get programming from the UK.


message 85: by [deleted user] (new)

The money isn't fed back to us either. Any profit made by selling on programmes we Licence fee payers have already paid for is kept by the BBC. They use it, supposedly, to make other programmes.

As for Top Gear, that is one programme I wish the BBC would axe. Why should I have to pay for some other bloke to trash expensive cars? You want it, you pay for it and you can have it wholesale!

Having said that I like the cross pollination of ideas that you get from seeing programmes from other countries like the US. Where would we be without Star Trek? And Doctor Who has been popular in the US for years. There are loads of programmes from fantasy to drama that get exchanged and we are all the better for it. Yes, sometimes there are delays, but these are often due to local commitments before the programme can be made available elsewhere.

As for Sherlock, I still prefer the Jeremy Brett version made by Granada. And I have a very great fondness for the US 1940s Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce films. I wish I could get all fourteen of them. Just marvellous.


message 86: by Kate (new)

Kate O'Hanlon (kateohanlon) | 778 comments Given that BBCs Doctor Who is now shown in the US a day or so after its UK airing, I'd imagine that the reason the US isn't getting Sherlick until May is that either PBS isn't willing to pay to show it sooner or that it's not to do with money, but PBS is choosing to air it when it suits them (which is stupid and annoying, but such is the tv industry).

Either way I doubt the Beeb cares either way so long as PBS pays and isn't airing it before them.

(Due to some circumstances Ireland gets BBC as part of the standard tv package even though we don't pay the license fee. Happy days.)


message 87: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments Well PBS has the right to show it in america because they paid to have the rights before the BBC optioned selling it to its american distributor. Just like Doctor Who the BBC didn't know if it would be popular in america so Sci-Fi got to air it in america first cause they paid to have it.


message 88: by Kate (last edited Jan 23, 2012 03:04AM) (new)

Kate O'Hanlon (kateohanlon) | 778 comments Right.

Anyone obsessing over figuring out the end of the last episode, Moffatt's just burst our collective bubble, saying we've all missed the vital clue. (Though at least he does confirm that they've worked out ahead of time how to explain it, and aren't just going to pull an explanation out of their arses.)
(spoilers for S2) http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radi...


message 89: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Duffy | 25 comments Kate wrote: "Given that BBCs Doctor Who is now shown in the US a day or so after its UK airing, I'd imagine that the reason the US isn't getting Sherlick until May is that either PBS isn't willing to pay to sho..."

Your not likely to hear the Welsh complain "You guys terrify us"


message 90: by Ken (new)

Ken (KGratten) | 34 comments Kate wrote: "Right.

Anyone obsessing over figuring out the end of the last episode, Moffatt's just burst our collective bubble, saying we've all missed the vital clue. (Though at least he does confirm that the..."


Oooh, nice find. Now I have to go through the episode... again. I'm sure it will turn out to be a red herring on Moffat's part, but maybe not.


message 91: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 7230 comments New season starts May 6th in the US. Goodreads search sucks.


message 92: by Micah (new)

Micah (onemorebaker) | 1071 comments Tamahome wrote: "New season starts May 6th in the US. Goodreads search sucks."

Amen to that. On both counts.


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