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message 251: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
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message 255: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
I want to know how many people tip when they go to a restaurant to pick up their food. I was with someone who did this, because there was a "tip" line on the receipt and they thought it meant they had to tip. I explained that they probably just used the same receipt for every transaction and you weren't supposed to tip because no one was delivering. So how many mistaken tips do they get this way?


message 256: by evie (new)

evie (ecie) | 4437 comments I left a tip the last time I picked up take-away because the service and food is consistently excellent at our local Thai place.


message 257: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
When I was the hostess of a very upscale restaurant in Portland sometimes I had to go out of my way to arrange a carry out order for a regular. Especially on a busy night this is a complicated thing to do for someone. I really appreciated it when a customer acknowledged that with a generous tip.

However, tipping at the counter at certain pay ahead restaurants is annoying.


message 258: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Annoying.


message 259: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Paschen | 7333 comments Ha. I love this thread so much.


message 260: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments I will always tip the person inspecting my to go order (not the same as the person giving me my fast food order) if they get it right... 10% -I've been that person & the one who packs to go orders is never solely the person packing to go orders... they're always doing some serious multitasking & they don't get paid much, either - usually less than minimum wage.


message 261: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments That's time away from other tipping customers. Example: When I was taking care of to go orders, I was working the bar in the restaurant, taking care of all drink orders for all customers, food orders for anyone eating at the bar or smoking area, taking care of to go orders, & also closing out tabs for every single table/server in the restaurant (72 tables, stayed full & busy during lunch). Honestly, it was too much for one person.


message 262: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Wal-Mart reimbursement policy for expenses is that they will reimburse tips up to 10%.


message 263: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Portlandia: the Professional Tipper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...


message 264: by Hanna (new)

Hanna (ohanners) | 202 comments How do you feel about restaurants that automatically bill you the tip? (It's generally 15% in Toronto).

To add to that, what about restaurants that give poor service AND charge you the tip automatically on your bill?


message 265: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
I don't have a problem if it's for the normal and expected reason (a party of six or eight or more). Anything other than this is not a good reason, and I would not go to that restaurant. Any restaurant that gave bad service and charged a tip, I would speak to management and complain, and never go there again, and write bad online reviews.

In restaurants I've been to, they normally add 18% to the bill for a large group. I don't really have a problem with this since I and people I'm with would generally tip 20% anyway. So probably they're saving me 2%.


message 266: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
I will tell you what annoys me, is a restaurant that ONLY does takeout but still has a line on every bill/receipt for the tip. To me that is chutzpah. I noticed this at Homemade Pizza Co., they don't even cook your food for you, you buy the pizza made but uncooked and take it home and cook it. And I'm supposed to tip for that? Eff no.


message 267: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Gosh, lots of messages have been deleted from this thread.


message 268: by Lobstergirl, el principe (last edited Apr 03, 2016 09:32PM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Ugh, has this ever happened to you? This restaurant is about 6 blocks from my house so I walked there to pick up my order, which was two entrees and a rice. I get home and they forgot to include the rice. So I call and say "You forgot the rice." The woman says, "Are you still in the neighborhood?" Well, yes. I live in the neighborhood. But this is your mistake so I'm not going to walk 6 blocks back there to get my rice. She said, "I'm just trying to rectify the situation" which, don't even. Me walking back there is not "rectifying" the situation. So they send a guy out with the rice.

Question: do you tip the guy bringing the rice?

I tipped him $2 and he seemed very grateful, obviously was not expecting a tip. But I was so irritated at this restaurant I will never go back. (They only have two items on the menu that are edible anyway so it's not the hugest loss, it's just that it's really convenient.)

While I was waiting for the rice I actually googled what to do. It seems like most people don't tip, but some do. What should happen is the customer should not tip, and the restaurant should take $ out of the till as his tip, no idea if that happens though.


message 269: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Paschen | 7333 comments Yeah, it was not his fault, so I'd give him a tip. We recently lost a messenger bag in an airport shuttle and the hotel doorman delivered it to our room at 4 a.m. We tipped him $20, should have given him more, really.


message 270: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
If the bag contained the nuclear codes, or a ruby necklace, probably tip $100. Otherwise I'm sure $20 is plenty. He was probably thrilled to get $20. Some people would have just said "thanks goodnight."


message 271: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 3594 comments Do you tip your mailman, mower of lawns, and paper delivery person at Christmas time with baked goods/money?


message 272: by Lobstergirl, el principe (last edited Jul 25, 2017 05:01PM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Don't tip the mailman. Federal employees can't accept tips.

Do tip the paper delivery person, always with money, not baked goods. $20 is a good tip.

I've always lived in climates where no one's lawn is getting mowed between September and May, so there was never a need to tip the lawn person. But if your lawn is still getting mowed at Christmas, and the person does it regularly for you, a tip would be appropriate. If you are having landscaping done year round, tipping might be appropriate.

Baked goods are lovely gifts for friends and neighbors, but I wouldn't give out baked goods in lieu of money.


message 273: by Phil (last edited Aug 24, 2017 08:30AM) (new)

Phil | 11837 comments I asked on Facebook if people tipped at restaurants when they were picking up food to go. Almost universally the answer was "yes."

Apparently I'm the only cheap bastard in my FB world who doesn't tip for take-out.

And, in case you didn't notice... This post began a wonderful NEW PAGE!


message 274: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 3594 comments The mailman loves brownies; the lawn guy comes year-round here, and he's happy with $20 at Christmas time. The last time I had my hair washed and cut at a salon, it cost me $65, including tip. What, exactly, was I tipping them for? Doing their job? I don't tip the guy who changes my tire or the guy who fixes my plumbing.


message 275: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 3594 comments What percentage do you tip a delivery person?


message 276: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Ok, so many takeout restaurants now have the tip in the automated system on the screen, and you punch whatever percentage you want, or enter a custom percentage, or you can punch "no tip." Can the person on the other side of the cash register see what you punched? Because I'm still punching "no tip" because I came to the restaurant to get my food, no one delivered it to me. But I don't want them spitting in my food if someone knows I pressed "no tip."


message 277: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments I usually hit "other" and do a buck or two. If they were actually human & took a second to interact with me I'll do the 15%.


message 278: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/19/di...

NYT article about tipping. The comments are fascinating. Yes, when you punch "no tip," the cashier can see what you're doing. I don't care, I'll still do it. If I'm fetching my own food and immediately leaving, I'm not tipping.

But apparently the tip screen is out of control and is being used in all types of retail establishments - even if you're buying clothes or movie tickets. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

One person wrote: "My doggy daycare place now has a suggested tip. I usually hit no tip because that just seems ridiculous, I already pay good money for my dog to go there. What am I tipping for?! When I was buying my large package the other day, I accidentally hit 15% which automatically sent the payment though. It added almost $50 to the total! I was too embarrassed to ask them to reverse the charge for the reason of not wanting to tip them. How awkward would that be? I’m ashamed that I just gave a business 2 whole services worth of money for no reason. Whew, feels good to tell somebody."

The next person wrote: "I recently picked my cat up from boarding at a very nice kennel. As I was paying my $500 bill the option for tipping appeared on the screen, with a suggested tip of 20%. I was flummoxed, and wondered if I didn't leave a tip would my cat be ignored the next time I had to board her? Not wanting to be a "bad customer" I left 15%, about which I am obviously still seething because I would like to think that the kennel workers earn more than the paltry wages that hard working servers get at restaurants. And, I am not confident that the tip actually went to... who? Who even gets those tips? Do we default to tipping everyone now?"

Jenna says: "I especially loathe the practice when I’m asked to tip before I even have the good or service. It defeats the purpose of tipping for job well done. Also—when the person vocally asks what I want to tip rather than showing me the screen, it feels like there’s a public shaming component that’s fully intentional."

The thing about the touch screen tip is, it's collected by the business, not the cashier or anyone preparing your food. The business decides what to do with it, and it may or may not even get to an employee.

Grace says: "I don't mind too much that places ask for tips, but it's frustrating when they ask for such high percentages. I went to a coffee shop the other day to pick up a $3 coffee and the tip options that popped up on the screen were 2, 3, or 4 dollars. That minimum tip they were suggesting was 66%! I understand that 2 dollars isn't that much money, but over the course of a year, that hugely inflates what I pay for coffee.

If they're going to ask for tips, at least do it in a percentage-based system that starts low, at like 10%, to give people the option to leave a smaller tip. When places give me that option, I'll pay it, but as soon as you're asking for a minimum of 20% on a takeout order, I'll just click no tip at all."

"Asking for a tip before the service is provided is absurd."

Tricia said: "My daughter worked for a small food restaurant where you ordered at the counter and then you food was dropped off at your table. There was a tip jar put our by the cashier checkout and several people would add money to the tip jar thinking it was going to the workers. Well, it wasn't. The manager collected the money and said they would do something "nice" for the workers periodically with the tip money. Never happened."

Moose said: "I pre-ordered a book at a local bookstore that is having the author sign the book at a specific date. Upon checkout, there was a default "tip" of 15% and it was not easily discernible how to remove my coerced gratuity."

Biz said: "Waiters get tips because their hourly is less than minimum wage, because it’s accepted that the tips will cover their wages. A cashier or barista actually gets an hourly wage. Not the same thing. It was a nice thing to do to help out during the pandemic but it’s out of control now."

Brooklyn said: "Just ordered masks online (ha). At checkout, there was a line to tip, "for our hardworking team". Truly, a first for me.

Seriously, on an online purchase of goods you want a tip?? I don't think so. Not when I just paid for the purchase, shipping and tax."

Jimbo said: "A cashier at a cafe in my office building told me to use the tip jar, as the employees never saw a cent from the tips left digitally."

Midwest said: "I've always been skeptical that employees receive digital tips, especially when they're processed through an national chain's app. I never tip in the app because I don't know where the money goes."

KV said: "No evidence the workers are getting the tips from the automated system."

Sophie said: "I stopped tipping for counter service after the acute phase of the pandemic ended. Tipping is for tipped employees who make below legal min wage. A person standing behind the counter is not one of those. They may not be making a lot of money but it is not my job to make up the difference. I will not be bullied into it by a stupid screen."


message 279: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
R wrote: "I tipped very generously for takeout and delivery during the pandemic. Then came the iPad turned my way for a range of suggested tips for nearly everything. I had enough when I went to our farmer's market and bought something from a stand that was clearly staffed by the two owners of the business. The iPad screen suggested tips beginning at 18%. I left no tip as I remembered my father's advice to tip servers, employed barbers, taxi driving employees and the like well, but to not tip the owner of the barber shop, etc as they set their prices. This case at the farmer's market was such a non-tip situation. The owners could easily set their prices and that would be it."


message 280: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Acat said: "It’s frustrating to be asked for a tip everywhere you go multiple times a day. I went and got a scoop of ice cream and the woman said “feel free to tip.” I paid $7 for this scoop, and now I have to tip you for doing your literal job which is to scoop ice cream on the cone? Many restaurants in the Bay Area, at least ones I frequented during the pandemic turned into window service and often they default the tip to 20%. I’m coming up to the window, placing my order and waiting for you to call my name so I can come back to the window and get my food. Honestly it’s making me resent restaurants and eateries."


message 281: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
DS wrote: "I’ve been put off by requests for tips in unconventional places for awhile but was still surprised when a student giving a campus tour (at UVA) let us know that she accepted tips and offered her Venmo."


message 282: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
Amanda wrote: "I got a tip prompt from the card reader on the ice cream truck. It would be funny if it weren’t so annoying."


message 283: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24778 comments Mod
I got a takeout hamburger and fries yesterday (small, upscale local chain). The payment screen suggested tips of 15%, 18%, 20% etc., I selected "No Tip." But when I was looking at my receipt today, I noticed "Restaurant surcharge (3.25%)." This is something that started in the pandemic....when no one was eating in restaurants...and just never went away.

At the bottom of the check it says the surcharge "may be removed upon request." Well, ok, but I'm just looking at it a day later.

This is a restaurant that has no table service. There are picnic tables outside, but you get your food and carry it to your picnic table yourself, bus the table yourself. No tables inside, just a bar with barstools for people waiting for their orders.


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