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message 1: by Stacy-Deanne (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) Hi All,

I started this topic because I am floored with the "love" I've been getting from readers about my upcoming series because it's mystery and crime. People say it's unique in IR and I didn't know so many people hungered for different types of genres in IR. I'd definitely like to see different genres in IR.

Besides seeing more IR mystery/crime authors, I'd love to see more IR historical romance authors. I know there are some historical IR but since I am obsessed with historical romances, I'd love to see as many in IR as possible. I'd like to see more thrillers and heck even some horror would be interesting. I just hope this wonderful genre keeps expanding. I think the more IR authors writing in different genres, the more IR will be brought up to an even bigger level.

So, what genres would you wanna see more of in IR books?

Best Wishes!

http://www.stacy-deanne.net


message 2: by Stacy-Deanne (last edited Oct 18, 2010 10:34PM) (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) I love Charisma Knight (a dear friend of mine) because she brings paranormal and some horror to the IR table. She is definitely one of few IR writers that stand out to me because she's writing something different. It's refreshing.


message 3: by new_user (new)

new_user Hey, Stacy-Deanne. Everyone knows I'm a big PNR fan, so I'd love to see more paranormal romance with interracial relationships. :D


message 4: by Michelle, Mod with the Bod (new)

Michelle Gilmore | 3396 comments Mod
I'm with NU, I'd like to see more IR PNR, but I'd also like to see more IR romantic suspense too. Romantic comedy/ chick lit would be really nice too.


message 5: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
Michelle and I are thinking the same thing. I would like to see IR Chick Lit. I would like to see more IR Contemporary Romances as well.

And I would love to see more romance in the romance books. I want the candlelight dinners, movie night, game (bowling, Putt-Putt, etc.), etc.


message 6: by Michelle, Mod with the Bod (new)

Michelle Gilmore | 3396 comments Mod
Well said Arch! More "romance in the romance books" would be nice. Lately, I feel like there's more sexual tension than romance taking place in romance novels, which is fine if that's what you're in the mood for. But I'm hoping to come across some IR contemp romance with some actual dating etc...


message 7: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
That's why I like to write romance in my romance stories Michelle. I can't see romance without romance.


message 8: by Michelle, Mod with the Bod (new)

Michelle Gilmore | 3396 comments Mod
I also like sci-fi/ futuristic romance, and have come across more IR novels lately. Of course I'd to see more of that. I guess I'd just like to see more IR romance novels period.

Are there any IR chick-lit novels out there that anyone knows of? If so please let me know =)


message 9: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (last edited Oct 19, 2010 06:18AM) (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7314 comments Mod
I love speculative fiction, so more IR in the following genres:

*Urban Fantasy/Fantasy
*Science Fiction
*Paranormal Romance
*Horror

Also, I really want to see IR fiction with lots of adventure and intrigue. Larger than life stories. Not just plain contemporaries. Meaty and edgy stories, with edgy characters, and less focus on sex.

I love historicals, so good IR historicals that don't dwell in the race issue. That's why I like the idea of steampunk or alt. universe.


message 10: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
I haven't came across a IR chick-lit Michelle, but I hope I did.

The other day, I was thinking about writing one.


message 11: by Stacy-Deanne (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) I love all you've said! I agree. I would love to see more comedy as well because I also incorporate humor in my work. I'm naturally humorous, I LOVE to laugh! So that comes out in my work. I feel just because a book might be serious, doesn't mean you can't put in a joke or funny line or two in dialogue or even narrative. That's realistic I think plus it tricks the reader up and keeps their interest.

I also agree about the romance. I wanna see more romance and I wanna see more lovemaking, not just "sex". There is a difference and some authors don't seem to know that. Nothing wrong with authors who just write very sexual books, but I want more drawn-out seduction, foreplay, wooing, and more dating like Arch mentioned. This builds up romantic chemistry and let's the audience grow with the characters. I feel like a lot of over sexual books fail to actually establish chemistry because it seems to be only about the sex. Anyone who knows anything about romance knows true romance and seduction starts out BEFORE the bedroom. It starts from the first meeting and all that time should be a wooing process. From there the chemistry begins.

I especially love to read (and write) books that start off with couples who had a past romance but might be broken up when the book starts. I love writing these types of rekindled romances because it's so neat to try to make folks "fall in love again". I like how in these types of romances, the lovers already have history established but they gotta fight their way back to one another.

One of them is stalling their to admit their feelings (even though they're still in love) and the other person is fighting their hardest to get back with the person. There's so much romance in that because I love how someone has to win someone's heart, especially a love they used to have.

Sigh. Ahh. It's threads like this that remind me I'm a girl, LOL! Yeah I might write crime and mysteries, but I am still a woman and what woman doesn't love anything romantic? LOL.

Best Wishes!

http://www.stacy-deanne.net


message 12: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
Stacy-Deanne, we have the naturally humorous thing in common. I can write something and be laughing at the same time. I love to laugh and sometimes, it will come out in my stories.


message 13: by new_user (new)

new_user Oh, I forgot UF and SF. I'd like to see more IR there too!


message 14: by JC (new)

JC (ainathiel) I agree with Stacy-Deanne, I love rekindled love stories; I also like to read UF and SF books too. I want to read stories about people that can suspend my reasonable doubt.


message 15: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2002 comments Mod
These are great suggestions, most are already from my list so I will just say 'co-sign, sealed and hopefully to-be-delivered'! :-D

One thing I didn't see mentioned was married romances (could be rekindled romances but married, specifically). I would love to see more of these as well as May/December - Older Hero/Younger heroine books. You guys know I love the M/Ds but I haven't come across any IR ones. I may have to start the trend. ;-)

I know a lot of folks on here (myself included) write stories that they want to read which is awesome. I'm doing the same and have a few multi-genre IR works in the, um, works, but I wonder if there's a correlation here. For instance, there are a ton of contemporary IRs on the lot at the moment and they seem to be all that really sells. If there is something different that sways from being too kinky or straight contemporary/paranormal, I wonder if the interest won't be there? Or maybe it's just a case of that's all that's available so it of course will sell.

Just thinking aloud. Guessing what the audience will want is like hitting ones head against the wall but I sometimes wonder if IR readers will be turned off by anything that strays from formula. Stacy-Deanne, since you're getting a lot of positive word from your upcoming series, you give me hope that readers do indeed want something new and different than what they're used to. :-)


message 16: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
I want reverse stories. I want to see the woman in charge, as in the woman saving the man. I'm writing a story like this.

I want to see stories where the woman is the rich one.


message 17: by The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (last edited Oct 19, 2010 11:02PM) (new)

The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (thefountainpendiva) | 1215 comments If anyone writes paranormals, then can we PLEASE stake the vamps and neuter the weres? I want to see more IR paranormals with other mytholoogical beings from other cultures. Hell, I want to see that in the paranormal genre in general.

I also want to see IR's where the characters are quirky nerds, artists, rockers, geeks and the heroes aren't always drop-dead gorgeous but have amazing personalities. Someone mentioned having the heroine be the wealthy character and on that note, how about some blue-collar characters too.

Overall, when authors take risks and do something different, those are the books readers (and we publishers) really crave!

More high fantasy a la Lord of the Rings! I could definitely go for that!


message 18: by Stacy-Deanne (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) Rae, LOL! This thread alone should inspire all the writers in the group. We are all readers too and what we are saying proves folks want something different.

I think the IR audience REALLY wants different things from readers I talk to. It's just that I think a lot of IR authors are afraid to stray like you said. Maybe they wanna try new things but wonder if folks will want it. It might have something to do with who they write for too. Some pubs give you freedom and some want to dictate what you write.

But hell, you gotta get out there and do stuff you wanna do and be true to yourself. The author that's different is more likely to strike it hot because they are doing something no one else is doing. That's the ticket. If we as writers write IR that's out the box, we'll surpass the other IR writers out there that are afraid to sway or just don't for whatever reasons.

I wanna see different things and all of you guys have wonderful ideas. I think for IR to get more respect, we need to stop having just erotica. I'm not putting down erotica, but so many people assume that IR is only erotica. I can't tell you how many folks I speak to who love IR books but their main complaint is that it's too sexual, pornographic. Then I have to explain, "It's not all IR. But yes a lot is erotica." Next thing they are saying stuff like, "Well who besides you are writing stuff is different?" And then tell them what to seek out.

But yes, Rae, be true! It's when we dare to be different and be ourselves that we conquer things. If someone writes something so different from something in the genre, it could be a huge hit and even send IR into mainstream level.

See, we need to think of the bigger picture and let folks know, hey we don't all just write sex. And we need to have folks stop thinking that IR and erotica is the same thing because it's not.

Let's make this a crusade and I hope all up and coming IR writers come up with different things. LOL!

Best Wishes!

http://www.stacy-deanne.net


message 19: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
I don't desire to be publish, which you guys already knows this and if anyone didn't know that is checking out this thread, now you do.

I like to write different things and my stories are on groups that I am on. I am very shy, when it comes down to my writing, but I'm glad for the challenge stories. It's nothing for me to write stories for my eyes only, which I write all of my stories for myself regardless. But, I'm sharing stories with other people on here and the other group that I am on. Some stories will only be posted on my private group. Some of my stories will not be posted online period.

I know that I don't write like an author and that my stories have holes in them. (Sorry Danielle! You know why I am saying that I am sorry. :) ) But, I have always written for fun. 23 years of fun writing.

Anyone that's looking for something different is welcome to read my stories on the groups. I'm posting for fun. I am not looking for writing tips.

In the future, I might use my profile writing section and share some interracial stories.

I'm a tension writer. I can write a story without sex. If people are looking for interracial stories with sex, some of my stories they can forget it. If I do decide to write a love scene, it will be an leave it to your imagination scene.

I love writing scenes where my characters make love. To me, a couple can make love without connecting their bodies. Spending time together in my eyes, is making love.

Okay, I will shut up now. I will be writing another installment to my story about Cop and Sanjar - Trespassing.


message 20: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (last edited Oct 22, 2010 05:41PM) (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7314 comments Mod
Okay, I bet you guys want me to go back to shutting up like I've been for the past few weeks. I'm feeling more chatty lately, so bear with me. :)

For myself, I focus on writing a good story that happens to be interracial. My goal isn't to write an interracial romance. It's more of an organic thing for me, if that makes sense.

I was looking at some IRR on Amazon.com, and the storylines are pretty boring overall. I don't mean to offend anyone. But, it's a lot of the same old thing. I know people probably think I'm crazy, but I get excited when I see a plot where the hero is hired to kill the heroine, or they are mortal enemies, or he's an escaped convict who kidnaps her. Do you know why? Because it's something intriguing. It makes me wonder, how will this end up with an HEA. Nowadays, writing about a wm/bw who meet, become sexually involved, and have to decide if they want to make it permanent is not enough for me. (Add family/societal reaction to different race or not). I need more, to be frank.


message 21: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
No Danielle, keep talking.

That's why I love tension in stories that I write and read. I like it when the hero wants to kill the heroine or vice versa. I like it when the hero is a little nice mean to the heroine. Nemesis, I hate you at first sight, Leave me along and go about your business stories.


message 22: by Stacy-Deanne (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) Danielle,

Your reasoning is why I am SO addicted to mysteries and crime. I get a lot of attention for writing this genre because not a lot of blacks are writing this. I wish more blacks would venture out and write crime and mysteries just because I think black writers as a whole need to branch out more and stop writing the same type of stuff.

I guess I can share a little about my writing, LOL! Well let's see I have always stayed true to myself. When I first started writing, all of my characters were white. Gradually, I started writing minority characters here and there but my books have mostly white characters and the reason for this is, because that's just what I am comfortable with and I've always identified more with white people than a lot of blacks. Hence, why I like white men I guess. So my books cross over naturally because it's who I am. I don't write "white" characters for a purpose or for a gimmick. This is just who I am. I also don't feel like the color of the author should determine the color of their characters. I write what fits the story and write the characters I see. If the story calls for white characters, black, Hispanic, gay, whatever, that's what I'm writing.

A lot of black writers think it's strange when black people write characters other than black. I think it's strange when an author never branches out. I think the problem with a lot of writers is they are too stuck in their comfort zone. I like challenges so that's why I started writing IR.

I will be honest, I was afraid to write IR for a long time. I saw the backlash it got and I saw how hard it was to get it published. But I've always loved IR stories and I started to admire the IR writers who were making names for themselves, then I started writing them and then I reminded myself that I gotta write what makes me happy. Either the audience will accept it or not but I can't write a story that I'm not proud of.

So not all of my books are IR books, but I darn sure make most of them that just because I like them, LOL! But like I said, I let the story decide. I don't force it but I am proud to say I am an IR writer who's a little different, LOL.

Danielle, you'll definitely like my series if you love mysteries, crime and suspense. Definitely keep you on your toes. LOL!

Best Wishes!


message 23: by Stacy-Deanne (last edited Oct 22, 2010 09:01PM) (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) Arch, I'm with you. I have tension in EVERY scene of my stories. Without tension a story falls flat and is boring. I can't stand to read a book without some type of tension in every scene.

Best Wishes!


message 24: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2002 comments Mod
Hear hear Stacy-Deanne! I'm standing up and cheering right now over your whole post lol. I have some stories in my head and on my hard drive that are more action/adventure suspense thriller by way of sci-fi I've been dying to write about (need moar time! lol). I can't wait to finally get them written and released because I'm having a blast writing them. Sometimes I wonder if IR readers would like it because it's very different than what's out there and what they're used to but I have to write what makes me happy and where the characters go. Sometimes I see a complaint or two about IR stories that have no sex (I even received one complaint along these lines) because it seems IR readers are conditioned to make IR and erotica go together.

I wish I can quote your second post but instead I'll just say 'co-sign all the way'! I agree about making more than just that and I think a big part of that is what Danielle said about how she writes a story organically as well as writing one that's very edgy like she describes. An Anne Stuart IR, if you will. :-D No matter what the characters are where they come from.

I agree with Arch about tension also. LOVE it and it really makes a difference in a story where you can feel it pop right off the page, even without the sex.


message 25: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (last edited Oct 22, 2010 09:18PM) (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2002 comments Mod
Hear hear Stacy-Deanne! I'm standing up and cheering right now over your whole post lol. I have some stories in my head and on my hard drive that are more action/adventure, suspense/thriller by way of sci-fi I've been dying to write about (need moar time! lol). I can't wait to finally get them written and released because I'm having a blast writing them. Sometimes I wonder if IR readers would like it because it's very different than what's out there and what they're used to but I have to write what makes me happy and where the characters go. Sometimes I see a complaint or two about IR stories that have no sex (I even received one complaint along these lines) because it seems IR readers are conditioned to make IR and erotica go together.

I wish I can quote your second post but instead I'll just say 'co-sign all the way'! I agree about making more than just that and I think a big part of that is what Danielle said about how she writes a story organically as well as writing one that's very edgy like she describes. An Anne Stuart IR, if you will. :-D No matter what the characters are where they come from.

I agree with Arch about tension also. LOVE it and it really makes a difference in a story where you can feel it pop right off the page, even without the sex.


message 26: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (last edited Oct 23, 2010 08:05AM) (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7314 comments Mod
Arch and Rae probably already know this about me, but let me say for your benefit, Stacy-Deanne: action/adventure and suspense is where my heart is when it comes to romantic stories. I admit I do like the Harlequin stuff too, but I like as much drama, emotion, tension, risk, and danger as the author can throw at me. The authors who can write a great romance with those elements really do win me over. I definitely plan to read your books, Stacy-Deanne. Rae, I hope you are able to get your action-adventure stuff published. What I've read of yours is fantastic.

I have to agree that sex without tension is like eating ice cream without rich flavor of the cream. If the author can make the sex like the topping on the ice cream, then it will be a hit for me, as long as it's not TMI or gratuitous. It does nothing for me if it's just clinical, descriptive sex scene after another without any emotional connection or chemistry between the characters. On the other hand, I am fine with a clean romance, as long as it's got intense emotional connection between the couple that I crave in a good romance. If you read my reviews, I will always talk about the connection and the emotional intensity. If a romance doesn't have that, it's not going to be fully successful for me.


message 27: by Stacy-Deanne (last edited Oct 23, 2010 10:42AM) (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) Danielle,

I'm just like you! LOL! I mean I love the suspense and mystery like nobody's business. But you put a Historical Romance in my face and it's like cocaine! I am COMPLETELY addicted to Historical romances! I read them and I get this rush and I just have to have my fix. In fact I can say if we talk about categories of romance, lately I am finding I'm enjoying reading Historical Romances more than IR for a lot of the reasons you and others have mentioned, IR is growing stale unless some new stuff comes out there.

But oh, if I had the money to spend on a good chunk of books right now, they'd be all Historical romances. LOL! I read more of those than I do mysteries these days. I just love them. I don't care if they are self-published (as long as they are edited and correctly written) or from a big pub. I love Harlequin's Historical Romances of course but I don't care who the pub is or who the writer is. You put a HR in my face and I'm reading it! LOL! I just can't turn away! I told you guys before I need rehab when it comes to these Historical Romances.

I'm reading Julia Justiss' The Wedding Gamble now and can barely get off the ereader to do what I need to do, LOL! Yes I'm enjoying it! At first I found her writing style hard to manage but after a chapter or two, got into her rhythm and I'm loving it unless the plot ends up sucking down the line. LOL. So if anyone's looking for another HR to read, try that one.

Best Wishes!


message 28: by Stacy-Deanne (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) Rae, I would definitely read what you're talking about in IR! I'd love it! I believe a lot of folks would want to read it. I think the problem has always been that IR didn't have variety so that's why a lot of IR fans had to read the same stuff but I am confident that if more of us put different stuff out there, then they will really appreciate it. I know I would.

Best Wishes!


message 29: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2002 comments Mod
Thanks Danielle! My fellow action junkie sis. Hehe

Stacy-Deanne, historicals are awesome! I didn't think I'd enjoy those but I've read some really good ones and have some more on my list when I get in the historical mood. History can be so interesting and I would love to see more in different cultures, countries and settings. I just finished a prohibition era romance which was fantastic!

I think you may be right about the variety and audience. Perhaps it's like Field of Dreams, if we build it they will come! :-D

Hope you all are having a great weekend btw!


message 30: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7314 comments Mod
Stacy-Deanne, I am the same way about historicals. They are still my first love.


message 31: by Stacy-Deanne (new)

Stacy-Deanne Stacy-Deanne (wwwgoodreadscomstacydeanne) I love Historical romances because I've always loved anything "period" like period films. I love period films that take place back in the old days in England and London. Doesn't have to be British, but those are my favorite period films and stories. Yep, I've always loved period pieces, LOL! Loved them since I was a kid.

Best Wishes!


message 32: by Arch , Mod (last edited Oct 23, 2010 07:56PM) (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
I'll read an interracial historical book as long as it's not a forbidden love story.

I want a story that'll read like any other historical race story.


message 33: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7314 comments Mod
IR historicals are dicey. How can they not dwell on race? If an author can pull it off, I'd love to read one that had more going on than the race issue.

SD, my favorite historical periods are Victorian, Medieval, Old West, Early 20th Century. Regency is not my fave, but I still read and enjoy this.


message 34: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
I couldn't read an interracial historical book if it focus on race. I can't even stand contemporary books that focus on race.


The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (thefountainpendiva) | 1215 comments Actually, Stacy-Deanne, there are black writers who DO write characters of other races. For many years, Eva Rutland wrote regencies for Harlequin back in the late 80's/early 90's. I had no idea she was black until she wrote me a letter about the lack of characters of color in romance. Needless to say I was floored because I was a huge fan of her regencies.

As far as IR historicals, depending upon the time period, it can be done. If one is speaking of the ancient world, then race wouldn't be as much a factor. For instance, in Rome,one was either a Roman or they were barbarians and skin color didn't matter. Same for Egypt.

Steampunk is very near and dear to my heart, and I want to see more of it, as I'd like to see more high fantasy.


message 36: by Michelle, Mod with the Bod (new)

Michelle Gilmore | 3396 comments Mod
I have a silly question for the writers in the group. How about a Mammoth Book of Interracial Romance? Is there already something similar out, if so please tell me so I can go out and buy it! If not, I think a nice mammoth size collection of IR romance stories would be really nice.


message 37: by Michelle, Mod with the Bod (new)

Michelle Gilmore | 3396 comments Mod
I'm in 100% total agreement with everyone regarding the steampunk and the historicals. I'm not a writer, but I have one or two story ideas in my head that I think I'll start playing around with..... reading this thread has me feeling motivated!


message 38: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7314 comments Mod
I would love to see a Mammoth Book of Interracial Romance. Good point about HR IRR in the ancient world, Vixenne.


message 39: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
Michelle, are you thinking about writing something? Will you share it with us?


message 40: by Michelle, Mod with the Bod (new)

Michelle Gilmore | 3396 comments Mod
@ Arch,

I've a some short story ideas in my head for years now. I see the writing threads here, and I think about participating all the time. Maybe I will really soon.


message 41: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
That's good to hear Michelle.

The more challenge writers the better.


message 42: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2002 comments Mod
Dude, I would so love a Mammoth Book of Interracial Romance! I'd love to get on board for something like that! We were chatting over at Heather's blog about bringing a Mammoth Book of Sci-Fi Romance as well. I would love to not only participate but read it!


message 43: by new_user (new)

new_user Good idea! A Mammoth Book of IR!


message 44: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6620 comments Mod
I would like to see a mini hero or mini heroine as in their son or daughter.


message 45: by Robin (new)

Robin  (robin-alisha) | 209 comments It looks like everyone already mentioned most of them. Haha.

I would like to see more Urban Fantay, Chick Lit, Thriller/Suspense. That kind of stuff. Maybe a little bit more variety in the Erotic Romance genre. And by that I mean, not feeling like the sex scenes are ALL/ALWAYS the same. Like so much the same, sometimes I wonder if they were copy and pasted from other books.


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