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Just want to vent and get it out!!!

Like I said, I've never dated or anything, but I'm sure we're just as confusing to them as they are to us. I mean, if you really think about it..."
don't get me wrong guys are cool. i have more guy friends than girl ones. sometimes its refreshing how simple they are

aww :(
i totally understand - my best friend moved away and weve grown up together too! Hint: Get skype + webcams. makes it SO much better.... :)
i totally understand - my best friend moved away and weve grown up together too! Hint: Get skype + webcams. makes it SO much better.... :)
Jamie wrote: "Dawn wrote: "I agree with Abigail :P
to them, we're more confusing. personally, i like to hang with guys more than girls most of the time, because the guys i hang with, don't try and like, cover u..."
I know that feeling!!! me and a friend were like that, but then he moved and we were emailing each other... then with the help of my nosey brother (ggrrr) we decided that we were too young.... but we're still good friends. :P well, were. he's being an idiot right now. :P
and I totally agree - can't live with em, can't live without em.
to them, we're more confusing. personally, i like to hang with guys more than girls most of the time, because the guys i hang with, don't try and like, cover u..."
I know that feeling!!! me and a friend were like that, but then he moved and we were emailing each other... then with the help of my nosey brother (ggrrr) we decided that we were too young.... but we're still good friends. :P well, were. he's being an idiot right now. :P
and I totally agree - can't live with em, can't live without em.


yeah i totally understand how you feel soli. i met a girl in preschool (em) and we were best friends. then in the meantime i met another girl in first grade (different school) and we were amazing friends (bre). then when i was in 5th grade, em had to move to ohio because her dad lost his job. i was sooo depressed. then i got closer to bre then i was with anyone and she was the best friend i've ever had. then about 2 years ago, she and her family moved to california so she could fulfill her dream of becoming a singer/songwriter/actress/model. she rocks at all those things by the way. so during that time, i got very close with a guy friend. i felt like we could talk about anything. he was always there when i needed to talk. he always knew how to make me laugh. so about a year ago, for reasons i don't want to explain, he and his family had to move 5 hours away. he hardly ever visits, and i havent seen bre in nearly a year. em just moved back tho, but i'm afraid to see her again. i'm afraid she'd have changed too much and we'll never be as good of friends as we were before. thats my depressing social life, or at least part of it. sorry for the outpour

so has anyone ever had a certain side of your that dislikes you and your other side of the family?
well i'm talking about my dad's side..my grandmother purposely broke up my parents and basically disowned me because my i didn't have curly hair like my dad (sue me for having straight hair) and they talk about my weight and they say i don't look like my father (even though we're basically identical).
it's annoying because me and my dad barely see each other besides christmas and birthdays .
my aunt is actually the worst because when i was little she left outside of stores and say no one was going to kidnap me because i was too fat and no one would want me...
SORRY GUYS! That's a lot...it was probably too much :(


Jordyn, looking at ur pictures, your really pretty. seriously. And btw, curvy girls are prettier. As my mexican friend told me.... that if guys keep rejecting you... you need to find a latino man, because they love curves, no matter where they are. hahahaha :P
I suffer from low-self esteem, so i know what it's like to look in the mirror and hate what you see. Haha, I even did the whole try-to-starve-yourself-to-get-skinny thing. :P which was stupid. I don't suggest it.
People who can't see past your body or your hair to see the beautiful person inside aren't worth getting to know or being their friend.
@ilaria that sucks :( don't be nervous talking to em tho - what's the worse thing she can do? she used to be your best friend... maybe she feels the same sort of way you do?? just an idea. :P
So. I suffer from SAD, depression, and low self esteem. When i told my mom that i was having suicidal thoughts, she told me to stop trying to get attention. neither of my parents believe me. *rolls eyes* this is why i think that adults don't truly understand anything.
I suffer from low-self esteem, so i know what it's like to look in the mirror and hate what you see. Haha, I even did the whole try-to-starve-yourself-to-get-skinny thing. :P which was stupid. I don't suggest it.
People who can't see past your body or your hair to see the beautiful person inside aren't worth getting to know or being their friend.
@ilaria that sucks :( don't be nervous talking to em tho - what's the worse thing she can do? she used to be your best friend... maybe she feels the same sort of way you do?? just an idea. :P
So. I suffer from SAD, depression, and low self esteem. When i told my mom that i was having suicidal thoughts, she told me to stop trying to get attention. neither of my parents believe me. *rolls eyes* this is why i think that adults don't truly understand anything.

Jordan, Dawn's right, you are really pretty.
And I agree about talking to your friend, Ilaria. If you were so close, she probably misses you too. But if she has changed, it's better to know that then to wonder about it. And if she hasn't, then you'll get your friend back.
yeah. it made me angry. haha. I love how i laugh at that, when its really not something funny. lol. BUT to let you all know, im doing a lot better than i was last year... :P
mm good point Kate ;) thats what i was trying (and failing) to say - its better to know than to wonder and be wrong. that made no sense. lol.
mm good point Kate ;) thats what i was trying (and failing) to say - its better to know than to wonder and be wrong. that made no sense. lol.
Dawn wrote: "Jordyn, looking at ur pictures, your really pretty. seriously. And btw, curvy girls are prettier. As my mexican friend told me.... that if guys keep rejecting you... you need to find a latino man, ..."
at least u could tell somebody. even if their reaction to it was kinda mean ok alot mean. i didnt have the courage to tell anyone for years about how i wanted to just die. I have sworn never to trust older people becus their the ones that can hurt u the most. ONly Kaloni (one of my best friends) and now u guys no this. and i dont think i'll ever be able to tell my parents that i think i have depression. and yeah im alot better now to, but sometimes its just so overwhelming and i get suicidal thoughts and all that, i think because i hold everything bakc for to long and then when something makes me sad, i just get really sad, like really really sad. :/
I wish i could tell my parents but i cant. ugh
im not sure how they would take it i think they wouldnt believe either Avery. and ur right adults dont understand.
at least u could tell somebody. even if their reaction to it was kinda mean ok alot mean. i didnt have the courage to tell anyone for years about how i wanted to just die. I have sworn never to trust older people becus their the ones that can hurt u the most. ONly Kaloni (one of my best friends) and now u guys no this. and i dont think i'll ever be able to tell my parents that i think i have depression. and yeah im alot better now to, but sometimes its just so overwhelming and i get suicidal thoughts and all that, i think because i hold everything bakc for to long and then when something makes me sad, i just get really sad, like really really sad. :/
I wish i could tell my parents but i cant. ugh
im not sure how they would take it i think they wouldnt believe either Avery. and ur right adults dont understand.
i've never thought i was pretty... ok just thought i would say that, lol like it says get it out! im ugly and fat and maybe i think that cus my whole life ive been told how ugly and fat i am.


Its hard to think of urself as pretty when all ur friends r amazingly beautiful. Not that their the ones calling me fat and ugly. They would never do that.
Its weird how many people hide depression. I mean i no im one of them,but if my best friends hadnt told me they have depression i never would have known.
Its hard when people have so many expections of u, but u dont even want to get out of ur bed, u dont want to go through another day. You just dont want to be here. and yet u have to. I let everyone down and that probably added to my depression too. i hate letting anyone down, i hate disappointing people.
Its weird how many people hide depression. I mean i no im one of them,but if my best friends hadnt told me they have depression i never would have known.
Its hard when people have so many expections of u, but u dont even want to get out of ur bed, u dont want to go through another day. You just dont want to be here. and yet u have to. I let everyone down and that probably added to my depression too. i hate letting anyone down, i hate disappointing people.

i'm soo glad you're getting better. i also have depression and it's a hard thing to deal with. i was in the same boat as you were with the suicidal thing, several months ago. if you're ever feeling that way again, tell your parents again even tho you got a negative reaction last time. your life is so valuable! everyone's is!

@Jamie:
I LOVE YOU!!!!!! :)
I know exactly what you mean. But my love for other people is basically what kept me going; knowing that if I did anything stupid, I would disappoint them all so much. Which is kinda scary... But it's life, right?
And I SO know the feeling of being overshadowed.... With the sister, the friends, the family... the looks, the body, the personality..... lol... It gets old, realllyyyy quick.
Yeah, I know I should, but I don't think I'll ever try to tell my parents again. It's not worth it.
And Jamie: You're beautiful, inside and out. People perception of beauty is severely skewed these days.
Haha, that's why I love Mika so much - Big girls are beautiful tooo!!!!!!!!!!! :D
*sings* walk into the room, feels like a big balloon... I say, hey girl, you are beautiful!
:D
I LOVE YOU!!!!!! :)
I know exactly what you mean. But my love for other people is basically what kept me going; knowing that if I did anything stupid, I would disappoint them all so much. Which is kinda scary... But it's life, right?
And I SO know the feeling of being overshadowed.... With the sister, the friends, the family... the looks, the body, the personality..... lol... It gets old, realllyyyy quick.
Yeah, I know I should, but I don't think I'll ever try to tell my parents again. It's not worth it.
And Jamie: You're beautiful, inside and out. People perception of beauty is severely skewed these days.
Haha, that's why I love Mika so much - Big girls are beautiful tooo!!!!!!!!!!! :D
*sings* walk into the room, feels like a big balloon... I say, hey girl, you are beautiful!
:D

But, arrgh. Me and my friends are all getting annoyed by one of our other friends. She's super clingy, and she's always like touching our face, blaming us for things we never did so she can be "mad" at us (really it's this dumb joke) and she has this WEIRD baby's voice. And seriously, it's. getting. old. But at other times, she can be a really sweet, good friend. And we just don't know what to do.
That sucks. I have a friend like that too. She moved to Saskatchewan tho. Unfortunately, she's coming to visit this week. I've been told she's worse than what she was before she left. AND she wants both her and my other best friend to stay at my house ALL. WEEK. I'm not on winter break either. And they don't get along all that well..... *sigh* life is crazy haha

I've told my friend (mentioned above) to smarten up before, and I was super worried about it, that shed get mad at me and everything... and you know what she did? she said, "I agree... im getting tired of it. thanks, ill totally stop that now" which was SHOCKING and i mean she was a lot better after that... so sometimes its better just telling them... i would just be like, when she talks in that baby voice be like "whats wrong with your voice? you always do that it sounds really wierd. *laugh*" haha
so i agree with Lauren, sometimes it's better to tell them. :)
so i agree with Lauren, sometimes it's better to tell them. :)

aw that... sucks. :(
I find that dropping harsh hints goes a bit better.... with laughter... like "Oh my gosh, thats soo annoying when you do that! seriously!" but when youre laughing it softens the blow a bit.
I find that dropping harsh hints goes a bit better.... with laughter... like "Oh my gosh, thats soo annoying when you do that! seriously!" but when youre laughing it softens the blow a bit.

Ditto. Some people are kinda dense at times.

UGH HE IS SUCH A JERK AND I DONT EVEN WANT TO TALK TO HIM RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
kinda i mean i just realized how much of jerk one of my guy friends is! and for awhile we were...more then friends and thats how he hurt me.
Abigail is right, though, we are totally as confusing to guys as they are to us... If not more so!
For me, boys are one of those "can't live with em, can't live without em" things. They can be annoying and confusing, but they can also make us happy. :)