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message 1: by SheLove2Read (new)

SheLove2Read (sherrih95) Who is the character you dislike the most and why?


message 2: by SheLove2Read (new)

SheLove2Read (sherrih95) For me it would be Leah, hands down. I just don't like pushy women who think their "position" in life entitles them. She deserves her comeuppance BIG TIME.


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Zelina (scarletbutterfly) | 5 comments My least favorite would have to be..... Leah for the same reasons


message 4: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments Ok, I agree on the Leah thing. But I'm going to throw in Arthur (even if---BIG SPOILER HERE)







He does wind up getting killed. That doesn't stop what he did being wrong.


message 5: by Danielle The Book Huntress (last edited Sep 02, 2010 10:41AM) (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Hmm. So far, I haven't been fond of Leah. Sometimes I like Darryl and sometimes I don't. He needs to stop being insecure about Warren. Warren earned his place in the pack.


message 6: by SheLove2Read (new)

SheLove2Read (sherrih95) I agree about Darryl but I think that stems mainly from the attitudes some alpha men have about homosexuals. I think he respects Warren's strength but not his position in the pack because of his sexuality.


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Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments Oh, and I almost forgot to throw in the Grey Lords of the Fae. So far, most of them are major a**holes, from the few times that we've seen one of them in the books.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
You said it, Sherri. I'm not sure why some 'alpha men' are so afraid of gay men. They don't want you! You don't have to have sex with them. Get over it. Okay, off my soapbox.


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SheLove2Read (sherrih95) I have known personally gay men who were MAJORLY alpha. Before I knew they were gay, there was really no way to tell. I think its mentally an issue, although for some I do understand its a moral issue too.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I respect personal ethics, I just feel that your moral beliefs should never cause you to mistreat others. Darrell seems to struggle with putting what's best for the pack above his own feelings towards Warren. And Warren has proved that he is more than capable of protecting the pack.


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Mina | 5 comments I also agree with not liking Leah and Tim from Iron Kissed b/c he was a jerk jerk jerk!!


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Cassandra (anaxibiaclark) | 3 comments I'd have to say my least favorite character would be Leah. Her personality is horrible and jealousy is something she can't get away from at all. But if Bran changed who she is as a person, which he could, then we would end up with berserker Bran if she ever died. That wouldn't be pretty.


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Flecha | 12 comments MaryJo. I kind of get why Leah acts like that... She is not very smart and the most powerfull werewolf decided she was "the one". She doen't understand why Bran acts like he does and she loves him. It must hurt not to be love back that way... But MaryJo? I can't stand her. Worst, she is intelligent so she should think a little bit more


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Emily | 31 comments After that last book, I would say definitely Christy. I had no sympathy for her, and I thought Adam acted like a numb skull (sorry to get off-topic-as soon as I thought of Christy, I thought of how mad Adam made me).


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Flecha | 12 comments Emily wrote: "After that last book, I would say definitely Christy. I had no sympathy for her, and I thought Adam acted like a numb skull (sorry to get off-topic-as soon as I thought of Christy, I thought of ho..."

I forgot about her... You are right...Christy is worst


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Isabella | 9 comments Christy after book eight. There has been so little scens with Leah but I guess there will be more reasons to hate her.
Mary Jo and Aurrielly sometimes gets to me and sometimes they don't.


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Crystal Hasemann (goldencrystal) | 5 comments My least favorite character is Christy. She is always making things other peoples fault and starting trouble with other while trying to look like she has nothing to do with it.


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Nicholas | 4 comments Pretty much every female werewolf except for the firefighter. They have gotten a little better over the past two books but I don't like the light they are painted in.

Bran's mate especially.


message 19: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments The short story book actually has Leah portrayed in a not as negative way in one of the stories. (It's the one for the little girl who survived being bitten as a 10 year old.) So, maybe she isn't quite as bad as we all think.

I liked Sage (the female werewolf that Charles sends to stay with Anna in the first Alpha and Omega book.) She's actually nice. And, I like Anna. So, there are a few female werewolves who aren't actively working to win the "B***h of the Year" award.


message 20: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Black | 51 comments My knee-jerk reaction to this question was to say 'Leah', like so many others, and then to follow that up with Christy. Yes they're both awful people, but honestly, my least favorite is Marsilia. Sure she's 'evil' so she's supposed to do evil things, but she's tried to kill Mercy multiple times, destroyed Stefan via his menagerie, and thought he'd just jump right back into bed with her, figuratively speaking, and then expects Mercy to just forget all of the crap she's done and help her with William Frost because reasons. As creepy as Wulfe is, I'd almost enjoy seeing him kill Marsilia and take over the seethe.


message 21: by Sam (new)

Sam | 2 comments I would have to say Arthur from Hunting Ground. I would give my reasons but I don't want to spoil the ending for anyone who hasn't read the alpha and omega series yet.

And I can't help but feel sorry for Leah (don't kill me!) She's probably the least understood character and we hardly know anything about her or why she truly acts the way she does. Did someone make her that way? In my experience, mean people hardly get to be the way they are without a reason (often bordering on emotionally abusive backgrounds). But I don't know. I may be overthinking her character. Maybe she really is just mean.


message 22: by Anita (new)

Anita (honeygirl) | 13 comments I get why Leah acts the way she does. Bran didn't choose her. HIS WOLF did and Bran just went along with it. He...not despises exactly...disdains her. He has no respect for her. Outside of banging her, he shows her zero affection or loving attention.

How would you feel if your husband treated you that way? Showed more loving attention to his KIDS than he did to you? Leah I can forgive. And pity.

But Mary Jo? I hate her. She needs to die already. Mercy's been nothing but kind to her. Patient, forgiving, understanding, and she still manages to blame every bad thing in the earth on Mercy. After all the drama and heartache, she still manages to find a reason to make it Mercy's fault. Maddening.

Heck even HONEY and Auriele have forgiven Mercy and are 100% on her side. What's Mary Jo's problem? She needs to either get her act together or find another pack. I really don't like her at all and can't find it in me to even PITY her.


message 23: by Ela (new)

Ela | 42 comments I agree about MaryJo Anita, she just needs to get over herself...


message 24: by Ann aka Iftcan (last edited Mar 13, 2015 07:20PM) (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments I'm of the opinion that Bran should have taken her with him at the same time he took Paul (was it Paul--the one who was stirring up all the crap.) Anyway, should have taken Mary Jo then too.


message 25: by Ela (new)

Ela | 42 comments Oh Henry! Yeah, some group therapy might have been good but Henry was a pretty bad influence so some distance is probably good too...


message 26: by Geli (new)

Geli | 6 comments I don't like Anna. I get Leah. I get MaryJo. I love Honey and all the other female wolves.

But Anna... after reading FOUR books of her, I still cannot name a single hobby beyond "Charles". Her whole world and self-worth is fixated on him and that she is an Omega. (and not a submissive, oh no, because that would be... what exactly? Had she been the submissive her old pack wanted, would that have made her worthless?)

And I got it the first two books. Rape is horrible. Abuse too. But you know what, inside the books years have passed and still I cannot name a single hobby. (and don't tell me riding, after Dead Heat. It was Charle's idea.)


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Serendi Quilting and cello. And she hangs out when she can with Moira.


message 28: by Geli (new)

Geli | 6 comments Serendi wrote: "Quilting and cello. And she hangs out when she can with Moira."

I knew she played cello, but I seemed to have skipped over the rest. Over Moira especially. Can you please tell me where it is mentioned? I do want to like Anna, so maybe I overread more things. ^^"


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Serendi (I love having books in searchable form....)

In Dead Heat, chapter 6, when she's trying to knit, there's a discussion about how she's learning quilting from someone in Aspen Creek and she loves it. Knitting is an extension of that, and also easier to do when waiting.

In Fair Game, near the end of Chapter 7, it's mentioned that Anna and Moira have become fast friends. (I'd remembered it a bit differently, but oh well.)


message 30: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments Moira and Anna have much in common--both are from abusive backgrounds, and have what many would consider to be handicaps, with Moira's more "visible" than Anna's. And I too knew that she played the cello (and she also mentions playing guitar and singing.) But the books are about her and Charles, so I really don't expect a lot of "other activities" unless they are important to the story to show up. And she's strong enough to stand up to Bran (and to Asil, who I LOVE) when she needs to, and when it's something that she considers important.


message 31: by Ela (last edited Mar 15, 2015 10:49AM) (new)

Ela | 42 comments My problem with Anna is that she has now been in Aspen creak for about 4 years and doesn't really seem to have made friends with anyone. Sage is mentioned in the first book and Asil flicks in and out. Other than that she only really seems to talk to Bran and Charles. I just don't thin this fits with her character, considering that her Omega nature is meant to make her uber friendly and personable.


message 32: by binter (new)

binter | 19 comments Ela, I love your comments. I don't necessarily see Anna the same way but I'm glad there isn't some un-spoken prohibition here about 'thou shalt not dislike the main characters'.

My take on Anna is that she is a quiet and a bit shy. Not going to come across as the uber-friendly, personable type. Can be very friendly and nice ONCE SHE KNOWS YOU but isn't ever going to be outgoing.


message 33: by Ela (new)

Ela | 42 comments Thank you Binter! I'm glad you don't agree with me, I'm always up for a discussion.

I agree that Anna isn't exactly outgoing and shes fairly private but she seems to find it easy to make friends when she visits other cities (moira and FBI agent Fisher) for example, and yet after living in Aspen Creek for 4 years she has yet to even MENTION another character, let alone claim a new BFF. I just find that a little incongorous.


message 34: by Serendi (last edited Mar 15, 2015 08:23PM) (new)

Serendi I think part of the problem is we don't *see* Anna and Charles in Aspen Creek much.

I'm not sure this helps, but here's a very minor spoiler for the short story "Unappreciated Gifts" (Asil story) (view spoiler).


message 35: by Ela (new)

Ela | 42 comments Serendi, I haven't hear about that story. Where's it from?

However I do agree with your point about not seeing Anna and Charles much whilst they are in Aspen Creek.


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message 37: by Ela (new)

Ela | 42 comments Thanks :)


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Flecha | 12 comments ooh I'm loving your comments... I haven't made my mind about Anna yet. I just... don't know. Sometimes she's lovely sometimes she makes me roll my eyes... I think is because her story is knid of a disney princes and she depends too much in her prince Charles


message 39: by Ela (new)

Ela | 42 comments Haha yeah I see what you mean about the Disney princess thing, it irritates me a bit too.


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Anita (honeygirl) | 13 comments After reading all the Anna comments I just have to defend her a little. I remember in the first book. Leo would literally "throw her to the wolves" and let all - yes, ALL OF THEM rape her as often and in as many ways as they saw fit. And he did this all. the time. for years she was passed around like a porn star with no choice in the matter. (Graphic) think of the filthiest, most degrading porn, and that's what Anna dealt with on the regular. Damn near daily. With no choice in the matter at all.

And to make matters even harder, she couldn't even kill herself because she healed so fast.

You don't get over abuse that intense in 4 years. You just don't.

I think it's a miracle she's got ONE friend outside of Charles and Bran, let alone hobbies and regular, normal non-wolf stuff.

I say give the kid a break. She's just now beginning to live a normal "Wolfie" life, and it's going to be a while yet before she's ready, willing, or even able to let loose and fly.


message 41: by Isabella (last edited Apr 21, 2015 12:05PM) (new)

Isabella | 9 comments I agree with Anita but it would still be nice if Anna tried to interact more with Aspen Creek pack appart from Sage and Asil. There are more Mercy books and we know more bi-characters and pack members in the Tri-citys pack.

I wish the books where longer mostly because I want to spend more time in the world and to meet more of the bi-characters.I prefer 500-pages books but 300-350 is ok. But the books are as long as they are and I can live with the length since I like the books :).

I don't like Leah, I don't think she is a good person but not an bad person either. How Bran treats her doesn't help but I thought it added a nice grey twist to his character. Bran is not a Santa Claus. He is mostly good but can also do bad (in lack of a better word) things if its necessary. Grey characters are very interesting.


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Dawn Black | 51 comments Anita wrote: "After reading all the Anna comments I just have to defend her a little. I remember in the first book. Leo would literally "throw her to the wolves" and let all - yes, ALL OF THEM rape her as often ..."

Amen! You put into words what I was thinking after reading all the negative comments. I think its hard for a lot of people to wrap their minds around the concept of being raped and beaten on a nearly daily basis for years. They can't put themselves in that mindset so they don't get why she isn't suddenly 'over it' in a short time period.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
JoshsAngel wrote: "My knee-jerk reaction to this question was to say 'Leah', like so many others, and then to follow that up with Christy. Yes they're both awful people, but honestly, my least favorite is Marsilia. S..."

I agree with Marsilia.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I'm glad people are free to discuss their thoughts on this group. You've given me a lot to think about.

I adore Anna, but to each their own.

Leah is irritating, but I can see how hard it must be to have a mate who doesn't love you.

I'm back at Marsilia. She's super evil and just darn creepy. Mariposa is not an issue anymore, but man I really disliked her!


message 45: by Dawn (last edited Apr 22, 2015 06:45PM) (new)

Dawn Black | 51 comments Danielle The Book Huntress (Self-Proclaimed Book Ninja) wrote: "I'm glad people are free to discuss their thoughts on this group. You've given me a lot to think about.

I adore Anna, but to each their own.

Leah is irritating, but I can see how hard it must be ..."


Well, Leah knew from the beginning that it was a mating of convenience, so to speak. She was always shallow and self-centered. That was why Bran's wolf chose her. It picked someone he couldn't love in order to keep him from losing control if she died. She wanted the status of being 'The Marrok's mate' more than she wanted to be loved. That, right there. tells me she's not someone to pity because she knew it, she accepted it, and being able to make others bow down to her was all she really wanted.

As for Marsilia.. definitely creepy. Of course she's evil, she's a vampire, but she's not just evil. She's cruel, sadistic, and thinks she can do anything she wants to break her people, and the people her people care about, and no one will bat an eye. She is absolutely my least favorite.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Even if Leah knew what she was getting, it's still hard to live it out. I think everyone wants to be loved, even if they elevate other things above love in the abstract.


message 47: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Black | 51 comments Danielle The Book Huntress (Self-Proclaimed Book Ninja) wrote: "Even if Leah knew what she was getting, it's still hard to live it out. I think everyone wants to be loved, even if they elevate other things above love in the abstract."


Good point. And after almost two centuries, since Charles is roughly 200 years old and Bran took her as his mate only a few years after his birth, it would be normal to at least want SOME affection from your mate.


message 48: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Black | 51 comments So, I just finished reading Dead Heat (awesome, as always of course) and I am even more puzzled by all the negative comments about Anna and how she's so one dimensional because her 'only interest is Charles'. She enjoys horseback riding, quilting, knitting, playing the cello, singing, and using her abilities as an Omega to help others. Just because, after a mere three years away from extreme abuse, she isn't a social butterfly with hundreds of friends doesn't make her one dimensional, nor does it make her only interest her husband. She seems a lot more open to other people than Sage, who has been in Montana for TWO DECADES recovering from being abused.. but I've seen no negative comments about her not being 'over it' already. The only two people Sage associates with are Charles, on occasion, and Asil. So why all the hate for Anna?


message 49: by Kay (new)

Kay Mcfadon (krazypurplewolf) | 2 comments That is a hard question, because you need all the characters to make the book worth reading. There are some that I hate but that is what makes the story.... :)


message 50: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Black | 51 comments Kay wrote: "That is a hard question, because you need all the characters to make the book worth reading. There are some that I hate but that is what makes the story.... :)"


Very true. You do need all the characters to make the story. Still, I stick by my original comment. My least favorite is Marsilia, even though I really dislike Leah and Christy.


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