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Aug 01, 2012 06:45AM

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"The Phoenix Conspiracy"
Richard L Sanders
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Phoenix-C...


Two caveats: it's allegedly a seven-book series but only four have been published so far, and the sex is really bad.


When I was younger I read quite a number of Michael Crichton novels. At the time I found them interesting and exciting enough. I don't think I'd read any of the books again, just for the podcast.
I've read (off the top of my head):
Congo
Jurassic Park
Terminal Man
Sphere
Timeline
Airframe
Andromeda Strain
That's a good number, I think. I've not heard good things about his later novels.
I've read (off the top of my head):
Congo
Jurassic Park
Terminal Man
Sphere
Timeline
Airframe
Andromeda Strain
That's a good number, I think. I've not heard good things about his later novels.


About the Hyperion sequels, they became increasingly predictable and cliche. I mean I expected more than: "human good, AI bad!". And that thing with the Shrike switching from the bad guys to the good… ugh, does Terminator ring a bell?


As for Harry Harri..."
Luke, I guess like most things, appreciation of art is subjective. I loved all of Harrisons "Stainless Steel Rat" series... maybe give one of the early ones a try, even if you end up bagging it?

Gregg wrote: "Childhood's End was an important early influence on me. Like mist classic SF, it's fairly short and quick to get through. I wonder how well it's aged?"
I didn't particularly like Childhood's End the first time I read it, so I'm probably not going to give it another chance.
I didn't particularly like Childhood's End the first time I read it, so I'm probably not going to give it another chance.

Not very well... I've re-read it last year and found it a bit silly. I mean, spiritism as the answer to all the questions in the Universe, really?! I also did a written review - it's in Romanian, so I'm not sure how well google translate can handle it. :)
Emanuel wrote: "Hey Luke, what IS a guarantee for a good book? Ars longa vita brevis... so many books..."
There is no guarantee! Not from awards, not from reviews, not from personal recommendations. I presumed Juliane would love Solaris. Turns out... not so much. That'll be a future episode.
There is no guarantee! Not from awards, not from reviews, not from personal recommendations. I presumed Juliane would love Solaris. Turns out... not so much. That'll be a future episode.

What makes this off-the-wall is it's a Japanese novel that's only available in English through a fan translation. It's a reasonably good translation, better written than several of the regular books Luke's reviewed, and a pretty quick read.
(Note that there are several sequels, but the first book stands on its own perfectly well.)

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Avoid Pirate Latitudes. Not only is it not as good as his earlier books, it reads like a rough draft. The Great Train Robbery is fun though (of course, it is one of his first books so....)

Alexander wrote: "Agreed. The Inverted World is primo Burrage-bait and would make for a solid episode."
I have the audiobook on my phone right now! I'll get to it in the next few weeks, I'm sure.
I have the audiobook on my phone right now! I'll get to it in the next few weeks, I'm sure.

I agree. The Martian was a nice surprise.
I'm reading Tears in the Rain now. It's also pretty interesting as a spiritual successor to Blade Runner

It's not that I like reading books about performers, it's that I could identify with the story of the magicians in The Prestige. I'm not looking for a list of books about stage magicians :)
That said, Carter Beats the Devil has been on my to-read list for about 10 years now.
That said, Carter Beats the Devil has been on my to-read list for about 10 years now.

I'm reading Tears in the Rain now. It's also..."
Finished "Tears in Rain" by Rosa Montero. Surprisingly good, especially given that it's a translation from Spanish. I liked the strong, complex characters. There are a lot of different sci-fi elements to the story but its mostly about replicants and coping with difference in society.
Alexander wrote: "Agreed. The Inverted World is primo Burrage-bait and would make for a solid episode."
I'm really looking forward to this one. The first 3/4 of the book was mind blowing, but the end let me down a bit.
I'm really looking forward to this one. The first 3/4 of the book was mind blowing, but the end let me down a bit.
Has anyone read Transfigurations by Michael Bishop? It's a really good example of anthropology in science fiction. I would also love to hear it reviewed.

I actually disagree, and found the ending a brilliant thematic "inversion" of genre expectations in the J.G. Ballard vein, at least regarding the protagonist's reaction contrasted with that of his peers in the City.
However, I won't drift into spoiler territory until Luke has read it.

I came to TIW on John Clute's recommendation, who observes that (view spoiler)
For potential new readers of The Inverted World, two precursory caveats:
1. It's a slow start (all that fricken track-laying!), but try and stick with it until Helward begins his pilgrimage to the south with the three women.
2. Some readers feel puzzled or even cheated by the relativistic aging effect. I have my own theory, but will keep it locked and loaded until (if and when) it comes up in discussion.
That being said, if you enjoy high-concept SF along the lines of The City and the City (Mieville borrowed the whole track-laying imagery from TIW for The Iron Council), this may be your thing.

"The risen Empire" by Scott Westerfeld. I just heard the "Honor Harrington" Podcast, and I do agree with that. "The risen empire" is the opposite of that: actual smart military action, and the people do what the have to do for good reason.
"Soon I will be invincible" by Austin Grossman. The "Red Shirt" Podcast is the reason, why I recommend that. I don't think that Scalzi is writing good books, but when it comes down to the "Meta" thing, "Invincible" goes into a similar direction (but it is not that meta=
And the last book: "Counting Heads" from David Marusek. Reason for that are the short stories from Ted Chinag. I read that also, and right after that the short stories from Marusek ("Getting to know you"), and for my self, both book were equal good. Anyway, Marusek made a novella out of his short stories, and that book is "Counting Heads". I do suggest "Heads" over "Getting to know you", just because there is more stuff inside.
Alexander wrote: "Ah, good thinking.
I came to TIW on John Clute's recommendation, who observes that the seasoned SF reader is being set up to believe that Helward Mann is destined to be the revelator of secret plo..."
I think that John Clute is over-analyzing and trying to justify a really clunky ending to an otherwise excellent book. To me the ending felt more like Priest was trying to come up with a "sciency" ending to the novel. That being said, it is still one of my favorite books. I can't wait to hear Luke's take on it!
I came to TIW on John Clute's recommendation, who observes that the seasoned SF reader is being set up to believe that Helward Mann is destined to be the revelator of secret plo..."
I think that John Clute is over-analyzing and trying to justify a really clunky ending to an otherwise excellent book. To me the ending felt more like Priest was trying to come up with a "sciency" ending to the novel. That being said, it is still one of my favorite books. I can't wait to hear Luke's take on it!



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Why does this rubbish regularly receive 5 star reviews?"
I gave RPO a high rating simply because I had fun reading it, quite against my expectations. Cline seemed like a cool guy in an interview I read, so I took a chance. I liked the characters and I was pleasantly surprised by how well the virtual reality world worked in the story. Would a lot of people just escape into cyberspace after the real world political system and economy broke down? It seemed plausible to me.
It was unquestionably a "popcorn" book, so I didn't give much consideration to its literary merits.

As for Snow Crash, I think it's an important work for presaging the rise of geek culture and the way America was selling its soul to corporations, but the plot and characters are pretty juvenile. I think Stephenson's later books, e.g. Anathem, are much better.

This book is now number 1 on my list of books I would like to see made into a movie.

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Why does this rubbish regularly receive 5 star reviews?"
I suspect Luke would have the same problem with it I did -- if you weren't living in the US in the '80s, it's like sitting through someone else's class reunion.

If you do not like Charles Dickens or Jane Austen then those books are, for your purposes, bad. If you (are misguided enough to) love the "Twilight" series, then these books, for you, are good.
Unlike, say, a sporting event, where you can say "Chelsea 3 Millwall 1" and know for sure which team won, judging anything creative comes down to an individual's views. All you can really do is find a reviewer whose tastes tend to be along a line with your own, and be guided by them.
If a book has been nominated for a specific award, and you have tended to like other books that won this award in the past, that's a good starting point. My guess is that Luke would not be tempted to investigate a previously unknown author on the strength of an award or nomination as he has previously discovered that for him it's no guarantee he'll like it.
I guess that's the joy of reading - unexpectedly enjoyable discoveries and the occasional disappointment!

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