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Angela | 1934 comments New Shelves beginning tomorrow!!

2000s
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
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2008-reads
2009-books
2009-read
2009-reads
2010-books
2010-read
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and
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arc
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fantasy-scifi
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ya
ya-books
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youngadult
young-adult
young-adult-books
young-adult-fiction
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Will post rules tomorrow...tired :) Thanks for your patience


message 2: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) YAY!!!


message 3: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments yay! Spread sheet is ready - let me know if you need a copy and either post here or PM me your email!

I made some tiny changes so let me know what you think.


message 4: by Adrienne (new)

Adrienne Teague (ateague) | 409 comments I am inordinately excited about this!

Squee!


message 5: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 202 comments Liz wrote: "yay! Spread sheet is ready - let me know if you need a copy and either post here or PM me your email!

I made some tiny changes so let me know what you think."


I'd like a spreadsheet, Liz - thank you. s.wischow(at)g.mail.com.


message 6: by Kate (new)

Kate (klc23) | 128 comments Liz wrote: "yay! Spread sheet is ready - let me know if you need a copy and either post here or PM me your email!

I made some tiny changes so let me know what you think."


Hi Liz, can I get a spreadsheet please? My email address is childresskl@gmail.com.

Thanks!


message 7: by Angela (new)

Angela | 1934 comments Object of the Game: To have read off the most shelves from the official list below.

Start: August 1st, 2010
*Any book that you finish after this date can be used for this challenge.
End: October 31st, 2010

1. To have read a book off a shelf, you must read a book that is found on that particular shelf. ie. to have read book off the classics shelf, you must read a book that is found on "classics" shelf within the first page.
Here is how you find the page:
-Find the book you just read and click on it so you get to the orginal page. For example: Grapes of Wrath http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4395....
-After you get to this page, look all the way to the right hand side and find Popular Shelves, click on more shelves and you should get to this page: http://www.goodreads.com/book/shelves/43...
and cross off the shelves you 'touched' on the first page.

2. A single book may be found on several shelves however we will only count the first page of top shelves for this book. For example, you may find a book that has 148+ pages of shelves (such as Grapes of Wrath), but only count the first page.

3. You don’t have to read off the shelves in any particular order of shelves.

4. The name of shelves must MATCH EXACTLY to the shelf you are trying to count. No deviations are acceptable (check the spelling off the official list below). For example one shelf reads: 2008-books and another 2008-book or childrens or children-s.

5. It is permissible to read a book that is found on a shelf you've already counted. I may read 10 books that include the shelf "books-i-own". After you have found this shelf once, continue to check off the same shelf, but do not count it as an additonal shelf. At the end of the round, report the shelf you hit the most.

6. Reporting

All we want you to report on the thread is the number of books you've read and the number of shelves these books are found on. Do not report titles because that will give your competitors a strategic edge. I will be creating a another thread where people can post questions on where to find a shelf. So if someone is looking specifically for economics, they can ask other players where they found that shelf. Some of us would like to keep this a secret, as it may give the competitors who are trying to get the most shelves more of an advantage.

For example:
52 shelves
2 books

b. You must track the titles read and the shelves on your own. You can come up with your own method of tracking. I personally print the list and highlight the shelves I have hit, but someone out there may have made a excel spreadsheet, which can be requested by other players via email.

7.HOW DO I GET RID OF SHELVES I CAN'T TOUCH??
If you read a book with a certain amount of pages, you can cross off a shelf you are finding difficult to hit. If you cross off a shelf and later hit it, you cannot change your original shelf. You must choose another shelf to cross off.
* 400 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* Over 500 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 600 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 700-1000 and over pages - Mark off 4 extra shelves of your choice
(Please include this in your reporting)
For example:
216 shelves
23 books
Book over 400 pages crossed off so and so shelf.

8.At the end of each month, the top three shelvers will be allowed to cross off 3 shelves. I will also randomly (names out of a hat) pick 3 people to cross off 2 shelves of their choice.

****9.This time around, we will be celebrating GR authors, so if you read a book by a good reads author, you can eliminate one shelf.****

9. Winning
The winner is one who has either read off all 350 shelves noted on the official list or who has read the most off these 350 shelves by the end date, October 31, 2010.
*Also, please post the shelf you 'touched' the most at the end of the challenge.


message 8: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments i wanna try this - deannalfisher@gmail.com


message 9: by Angela (new)

Angela | 1934 comments The more the merrier!! :)


message 10: by Rebecca NJ (new)

Rebecca NJ (njreader) | 425 comments I love the fact that you are adding the GR authors - great addition!


message 11: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments I agree on the author's fun. Yay Angela for continuing to think up new things for this challenge!


message 12: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Angela, refresh my memory: Does it matter when we started a book? Or can we use any book we finish after August 1?


message 13: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments not sure if anyone knows this - but i discovered a trick for identifying shelves easier...if you highlight all the shelves that you want to consider...you can paste them into excel and then order alphabetically (you have to remove the number of people who shelved it that way and remove the hyperlinks)...but makes it much easier and quicker for marking off shelves


message 14: by Carol (new)

Carol (caroldias) PLEASE Liz, can I have the spreadsheet? :D

layla.mayfair(at)gmail(dot)com


message 15: by Angela (new)

Angela | 1934 comments Hannah- you are correct! If you started a book on July 30th and finish it on August 4th...it counts.

Thanks all- I like to switch it up a bit :)


message 16: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments sweet! hopefully the two I started at the end of the month, will let me knock some shelves off!


message 17: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments not sure if its my spreadsheet being weird but i'm trying to get the unique shelves cell to work and its not...the number of shelves for each book is working though


message 18: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments you have to manually fill in the unique shelves, just subtract previous books total from the new total at the top


message 19: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments well, darn....lol!


message 20: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments i haven't found a good way to do the math in excel - any formulas would be continually changing the numbers or be circular equations (which excel considers to be a failure)


message 21: by Foxy Grandma (last edited Aug 06, 2010 11:24AM) (new)

Foxy Grandma (foxygrandma) Here is my spreadsheet if anyone wants a copy.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?ke...

It calculates Shelves Hit and how many times each is hit, Total Books, Total Pages, GR Authors

Also on Sheet 2 there is a formula for finding the shelves a book fits on. You just copy the page from Goodreads into column d or e. Sort and delete the people lines. Then copy and paste values into column A. The formula in column b will tell you if it hits a shelf. Then sort column A and B, and it is easy to print the ones that are Yes and enter them into the spreadsheet.

Anyone is welcome to use it, and I will be glad to help you with it if this description is confusing.

I can also email you a copy if you can't download it from here.


message 22: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) BETH!!! Thanks so much for that second sheet to match the shelves! I wonder if my husband can help me take this a step further and make everything auto populate on the master grid...

THANKS BETH!


message 23: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments can someone explain to me quickly the crossing off shelves after reading books with a certain number of pages? I wanna make sure I do it right, because I just finished a 400+ page book (which I think is one shelf?)


message 24: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Delicious Dee the book slut wrote: "can someone explain to me quickly the crossing off shelves after reading books with a certain number of pages? I wanna make sure I do it right, because I just finished a 400+ page book (which I th..."

Yes, 400 pages is one extra shelf. Pick any shelf from the list (probably a shelf you think will give you trouble) and tell the group it is the book you are "crossing off" for this 400+ page book. So your newest report might say something like:

6 books
157 shelves (including cross-offs)

I read a book with 400 pages, so I crossed of "magic."


You are taking a little bit of a gamble because you can't change a crossed off shelf later. In the above example, I crossed off "magic." If I later read a book that actually touches that shelf, I may not change my previous selection.

Also, do not count your crossed-off shelves in the total shelves touched for a particular book. (At the end of the challenge, Angela asks us to post some stats, including which of our books hit the most shelves.)

Does that help at all? Here's rule 7 from above:

7.HOW DO I GET RID OF SHELVES I CAN'T TOUCH??
If you read a book with a certain amount of pages, you can cross off a shelf you are finding difficult to hit. If you cross off a shelf and later hit it, you cannot change your original shelf. You must choose another shelf to cross off.
* 400 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* Over 500 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 600 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 700-1000 and over pages - Mark off 4 extra shelves of your choice
(Please include this in your reporting)
For example:
216 shelves
23 books
Book over 400 pages crossed off so and so shelf.


message 25: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Angela, do you mind giving us the list of new shelves for this challenge?


message 26: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments Lol! I totally missed that! Thanks! I thinks the shelves are in post 1


message 27: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Oh, to clarify: I'm looking for the shelves that are new for this round that we didn't use last time. Angela usually asks us to report on those shelves at the end and I figured I'd start tracking them now.


message 28: by Angela (new)

Angela | 1934 comments Sure Hannah:
2010-read, 2010 books, books-read-in-2010, at-library, europe, and, gay, general, not-read, not-at-library, sociology, spl, signed, read-aloud, western, and to-review.

Thanks for answering Dee's question!! I appreciate anyone that can fill in for me when I am not here if someone has a question.
Also, Liz, Thanks for the spreadsheet! You rock :)


message 29: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments oh yeah, one more possibly dumb question - no issue with using audiobooks right? I listen to them on my commute into work each day (makes my drive slightly more sane)


message 30: by Foxy Grandma (new)

Foxy Grandma (foxygrandma) Hannah wrote: "BETH!!! Thanks so much for that second sheet to match the shelves! I wonder if my husband can help me take this a step further and make everything auto populate on the master grid...

THANKS BETH!"


You are more than welcome


message 31: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Delicious Dee the book slut wrote: "oh yeah, one more possibly dumb question - no issue with using audiobooks right? I listen to them on my commute into work each day (makes my drive slightly more sane)"

I believe audiobooks are OK. (I've been using mine!)


message 32: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Angela wrote: "Sure Hannah:
2010-read, 2010 books, books-read-in-2010, at-library, europe, and, gay, general, not-read, not-at-library, sociology, spl, signed, read-aloud, western, and to-review.

Thanks for ans..."


Thanks!


message 33: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments oh good! lol!! i have like 3 in progress...1 at home, 2 in the car...(I have to limit my exposure to wuthering heights...)


message 34: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (goodquietkitty) Delicious Dee the book slut wrote: "oh good! lol!! i have like 3 in progress...1 at home, 2 in the car...(I have to limit my exposure to wuthering heights...)"

Wow! Three audiobooks going at once? That's impressive. But I understand about WH -- I listened to it a couple months back.


message 35: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 618 comments yeah, i'm insane...i thnk my current count for books in progress is 9...a non-fiction, historical and a mystery (i'm abotu 10 pages from finishing that one up); 3 on my kindle (paranormal romance of various types) and then 3 audiobooks (a nora roberts, a jd robb and wuthering heights)...I call it book ADD!


message 36: by Sara ♥ (new)

Sara ♥ (saranicole) I'm excited about the GR Authors! W00T!


message 37: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments Sara - did you have the baby?


message 38: by Sara ♥ (new)

Sara ♥ (saranicole) Yes! Ava was born on August 2nd (6 days early). She was 7 lb 14 oz and 20.5 inches long. She's SUPER cute with a full head of dark hair that my husband likes to style into a faux-hawk... ;) She's eating well and sleeps pretty well at night, considering she'll be 3 weeks old tomorrow. She doesn't cry much at all and she makes the CUTEST faces (although I know she doesn't mean to). :) So, so far so good—I've even managed to read 12 books since she was born (being off work AND having my mom here to cook/clean/etc. has helped).

My mom and in-laws are pretty impressed with how good a baby she is, so I think we lucked out! (I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop... I'm sure the next kid will be an outright terror...)


message 39: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (leslie_nj) | 57 comments Congratulations Sara! She sounds like a sweet little baby girl! Enjoy each and every moment with her. I am sending my "baby girl" off to college.....would love a day to go back and hold her in my arms again. Enjoy your precious one.


message 40: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments Congrats!


message 41: by Angela (new)

Angela | 1934 comments Congrats Sara!! :)


message 42: by southpaw285 (new)

southpaw285 Hi. I'm new to the group. This looks like a really fun challenge. Is it too late for me to start participating? If not, I would love to give it a try.


message 43: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments new people are always welcome - you can either start keeping track of books from now or if you keep track you can include anything you read in from august 1st through the end of the challenge!


Welcome!


message 44: by southpaw285 (new)

southpaw285 Liz wrote: "new people are always welcome - you can either start keeping track of books from now or if you keep track you can include anything you read in from august 1st through the end of the challenge!


We..."


Thanks, Liz. Did I see mentioned a spreadsheet that can be emailed? If so, I would love to have it. My email address is southpaw285@yahoo.com.


message 45: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments I sent it with some basic info about using it. Let me know if you have any other questions.


message 46: by southpaw285 (last edited Sep 01, 2010 04:44PM) (new)

southpaw285 Liz wrote: "I sent it with some basic info about using it. Let me know if you have any other questions."

Thanks, Liz. I got the spreadsheet and entered my first book. My first book "hit" 23 shelves on the list; it had 42 "unique" shelves. However, down at the bottom where totals are listed, it shows the following:

Total Per Book: 23
Unique Shelves: 42 (which I entered manually)
Total Shelves Hit: 42

At the top, it shows this:
23 total shelves
0 Total Books
327 Shelves Left

My total shelves hit is 65
My total books is 1

What am I doing wrong?


message 47: by Liz (new)

Liz (arcanepenguin) | 285 comments email me a copy of your spread sheet and the name of the book you read. If you just have one book your unique shelves hit should match the total shelves hit. The total books shelf doesn't change. The excel considers the logic involved to be circular


message 48: by southpaw285 (last edited Sep 02, 2010 07:16AM) (new)

southpaw285 Liz wrote: "email me a copy of your spread sheet and the name of the book you read. If you just have one book your unique shelves hit should match the total shelves hit. The total books shelf doesn't change...."

Okay, I will send it to you via email.


message 49: by Tami (new)

Tami Hi, I'm brand-new to this group, but this challenge looks like fun, so I'm going to give it a try! I was just wondering how to find out who GR authors are. Thanks!


message 50: by Sara ♥ (new)

Sara ♥ (saranicole) Tamara - I think the quickest way to tell is to "my books" and look at your "read" shelf. All Goodreads authors have an asterisks* by their name.

Another way to tell is that on an author's page (ex: Brandon Sanderson), you will see "member since" as part of the author's information.


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