Shadowland

[Claire]

That is true =]

[[deleted user]]

Just finished reading Shaodwland and have to say I think Casanova great in it had me smile alot plus I love the way John and Rosier interact with each other like to see more with the too of them :-)

[Claire]

Well, I think you'll definitely get your wish in the next Cassie book!

[[deleted user]]

Sweet :-) I can't wait hopeful it won't be to long of a wait :/)

[Claire]

Unfortunately, it looks like a pretty long wait

[Jax]

Just Finished Shadowland.... my immediate thoughts are:

Aaawwww!!!!

Dammit, now I want more!
;D

[Claire]

Aren't they great?

[Anna]

I think I preferred it once they got into the demon realm...probably. I'm liking the fact that Cassanova keeps appearing in the short stories - he is often quite a minor character in the novels.

[Claire]

I'm going to be honest and say that I find Cassanova whiny and annoying. I'm glad he's only a minor character, lol!

[[deleted user]]

Agree Claire about Casanovas but I think that's the beauty of his character unwilling hero lol maybe not hero but he has can be fun

[Lannister]

I think Casanova is kinda fun too. I wouldn't say I like him exactly, but he is fun to read. Sometimes I actually feel a teeny bit sorry for him, cos he's not where he wants to be, but other times I think he's an ass.

[[deleted user]]

With you on that Lannister be great if KC have his background as I do feel sorry for him sometimes too :-) and other times I like to B''ch Slap him lol

[Zeenat]

How does Casanova get away with complainiing about Cassie so much? I mean, someone has to have told Mircea . . . and I don't know if Mircea would put up with that kind of attitude from one his vamps towards his "wife"

[Claire]

I think the lack of reaction is probably sign that Mircea really doesn't care all that much about Dante's, aside from its capacity to keep Cassie safe.

[Lannister]

Zeenat wrote: "How does Casanova get away with complainiing about Cassie so much? I mean, someone has to have told Mircea . . . and I don't know if Mircea would put up with that kind of attitude from one his vamp..."

I dunno if anyone would have told Mircea. I think of it more like people bitching together about their boss (or maybe the boss's wife!) It takes a certain kind of person to go telling tales, and possibly some of Cassie's vamp bodyguards quietly agree with Casanova's complaints!!

I think they know he's just likes to moan, but he wouldn't actually do anything that would harm Cassie. After all, he has helped her in the past, even if it was unwillingly and only because it suited him. Casanova strikes me as the kind of person who's always bitching about someone.

[Claire]

And that is why I do not like him. To be blunt, Casanova is a butthead. I find this to be an acceptable insult since KC used it in FK, which makes it legit.

[Anna]

Tue bt I really like the interplay between the two characters - Cassanova and Rian - I have to say KC does that well (als0 Cassie and Billy Joe).

[Lannister]

It's interesting how Casanova perceives Rian as female, though it's been stated elsewhere that incubi have no innate sex. From what we've seen though, they do seem to favour one sex over the other. Rosier seems very male. I'm trying to imagine him as a woman but just can't!

Also, Pritkin has enough Daddy issues without his father showing up in a dress!!

[Claire]

I think because Rosier is Lord of the Incubi and can manifest his own body, it's easier for him to be one distinct sex. I mean, he is Lord, not Lady of the incubi.

I could see Rosier possessing a woman though, if he thought it would be an advantage.

[Anna]

Rosier possesses Cassie, then Pritkin walks in...
mmmm perhaps not!

[Lannister]

Anna wrote: "Rosier possesses Cassie, then Pritkin walks in...
mmmm perhaps not!"

LMAO!! I so do not want to think about that!! :D

[Claire]

....Incest is not okay!

[Zeenat]

Does Casanova perceive Rian as a female because it's his most "intimate" relationship? hmmm...

[Anna]

Or because he perceives himself to be heterosexual...

[Claire]

Does Rian take on a female form when she's projecting outside of Casanova's body? I think Rian is technically sexless but identifies as female.

[Zeenat]

Well as a heterosexual, then wouldn't you want the incubus to be "male" also, because you both have sex/exchange energy with the same person (the other partner).

[Claire]

I have no idea, to be honest. it's not the sort of thing I contemplate on a daily basis =p

[Anna]

Zeenat wrote: "Well as a heterosexual, then wouldn't you want the incubus to be "male" also, because you both have sex/exchange energy with the same person (the other partner)."

Interesting - never thought of it that way - but KC clearly likes the cross gender thing (Cassie and Billy Joe, Cassie and (view spoiler)[Pritkin (hide spoiler)]

[Claire]

I guess she doesn't really think about it

[Lannister]

Casanova did have that scene where he was in bed with two other women and a guy. Doesn't mean he and the guy were doing anything together, since there were two women on hand, but it's not impossible they haven't at some point either.

Casanova strikes me as the kind of guy who'd be up for anything, and to an incubus, sex is sex. I doubt they have hang-ups over the gender of their partner.

[Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin]

Didn't Pritkin say something to Casanova about Casanova being into men in regards to someone and Casanova said he didn't mind being with dudes, but he didn't want anything to do with whomever it was Pritkin was talking about? I think they were talking about Rosier.

[Claire]

I think Casanova just doesn't like Pritkin. And I think he's rather scared of Rosier.

[Lannister]

Mello, I can't remember that exactly but I wouldn't be surprised in the least! I think when it comes to sex, Casanova would be of the 'try anything once' school of thought.

Hmmm I wonder if that's actually his incubus subtly influencing his thoughts there. Maybe he didn't get with the dudes until he had a live-in demon! That would be kinda funny if it were true.

Claire, yeah, I think Casanova's definitely wary of Rosier and dislikes Pritkin. Someone made a comment in one of the books about Casanova having to serve two masters, and I think sometimes things are difficult for him because of that. I wonder if that Mircea vs Rosier thing will finally have a showdown. Maybe in Tempt the Stars??

[Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin]

@Claire Oh, there's definitely that issue going on.

@Lannister I bet Casanova would try just about anything. No reason not to when you have an incubus dwelling in your body. No room for things like shame, guilt or regret.

[Claire]

I want to know if Mircea will ever find out about Pritkin's other half

And Casanova is definitely adventurous.

[Lannister]

Claire wrote: "I want to know if Mircea will ever find out about Pritkin's other half

And Casanova is definitely adventurous."

It's possible he might find out in Tempt the Stars. I guess it depends on how much explaining Cassie has to do.

I wonder if Mircea would amend his feelings towards Pritkin knowing who he was. Would he despise him even more, or would he use it as a chance to get closer to a power in the demon realm (since vamps are always drawn to power)?

[Claire]

Mircea will have the presence of mind not to distribute that information far and wide. I don't think it'll make Mircea any more fond of Pritkin. If anything, it will make him more suspicious. Mircea may blackmail Pritkin into staying away from Cassie with the information.

[Lannister]

Yeah, I could see Mircea and Marlowe quietly discussing this information, and the first thing they'd say would be "How can we use this to our advantage?"

I wonder if Mircea's personal feelings might get the better of his judgement though. He has grudgingly accepted that Pritkin is a good bodyguard, but after Rosier tried to kill Cassie, Mircea might object to Pritkin being around, saying that his motivations cannot be trusted. We know that's not true and that Pritkin dislikes and distrusts his father, but Mircea may not believe it. He might believe it's all an elaborate demon plot to enslave Cassie or whatever, because that's exactly the sort of diabolical plot the vamps would come up with!

Also, diabolical is my word of the weekend. I'm going to use it as often as I can. :D

[Zeenat]

well we know when Mircea finds out Pritkin is half incubus, he's gonna NOT be happy. I think he already kinda knows/figured it out. He already said he knows pritkin is some kind of demon.

[Michelle]

Mircea is a mentalist, I wonder if he has attempted to get inside Pritkin's mind?

[Claire]

@Michelle No way did Mircea get past Pritkin's shields

[Lannister]

It's a good point Michelle brings up though. Mircea may not have gotten into Pritkin's head, but I bet he tried. And I bet Pritkin knows he tried.

I'm surprised those two haven't actually come to blows yet!

[Michelle]

I agree that Mircea didn't get into Pritkin's head, I just thought he might have attempted it.

[Lannister]

It's possible Pritkin may be used to vamps trying to muscle past his shields. Most of them probably don't have Mircea's powers, granted, but I bet they try anyway and Pritkin almost expects it.

[Zeenat]

Lannister wrote: "I'm surprised those two haven't actually come to blows yet! "

Mircea isn't the "coming to blows" type. He just has Marlowe on it. LOL. I think also, while Mircea suspects/knows Pritkin's feelings, being the practical vamp that he is, he doesn't push too hard for Pritkin's removal because he DOES keep her safe and it keeps Cassie happy (and a bit more open to Mircea's manipulations).

[Lannister]

Zeenat wrote: "Lannister wrote: "I'm surprised those two haven't actually come to blows yet! "

Mircea isn't the "coming to blows" type. He just has Marlowe on it. LOL. I think also, while Mircea suspects/knows P..."

It's definitely true that Mircea isn't the 'coming to blows' type ... but Pritkin is! Actually, I think it's Pritkin's oath to Cassie that stops him reacting to the vamps' taunting. He's putting his duty above his personal feelings, which is admirable.

Maybe one of these days Mircea will ask Marlowe to do that hand-waving thing, and blow Pritkin's head off. Now that would be an amazing ending to the series!! *runs off as the howls start*

[Zeenat]

Lannister, killing pritkin is not a way to make friends ;)

[Claire]

I second Zeenat's opinion!! *growls*

[Lannister]

LMAO!! Well, I do enjoy starting trouble debate! :D

[Claire]

And if Pritkin's hand just accidentally slipped on a potion...well...