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message 51: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments to: Mike(the Paladin)

I did the same thing. I still have all the maps and notes, though they haven't seen the light of day for many a year. Still, I had so much material available I used some of it to write a fantasy novel myself.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments Yah S.J., I've got several books in various stages of completion and a couple are set in the world I run games in.


message 53: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments I'm looking for beta readers for mine, now that I've decided to try self-publishing. I already posted on self-promotion, but it doesn't seem as if many people read that thread.


message 54: by Bets (new)

Bets (betsdavies) Been playing, like, twenty-five years. Preference, A D&D--3.5 system. I know 4 is more streamlined but allows less room for chaos. Played other systems. But this comes back to my fav.


message 55: by Casey (new)

Casey I've always wanted to try a tabletop RPG. I've gotten close a couple of times, but the group always fell apart. I've done a bunch of post-by-post forum role plays and more RP than I can measure in MMOs, but it's not the same. I would try to buy a book or two and play with friends, but the books are so expensive and everyone I suggest it to looks at me like I'm crazy.


message 56: by Philip (new)

Philip Athans (philathans) Since I don't work for Wizards of the Coast anymore and don't have to tow the company line, if I were going to start an RPG game right now I would use (most of) the D&D Rules Cyclopedia set in the Judges Guild world, and kick it seriously Old School.

Next choice would be the same Judges Guild world but using the 1st Ed. AD&D rules. Frankly, I still think the AD&D DM's Guide is the single most brilliant RPG product ever created.

Failing that it would be back to MegaTraveller, then I'd be torn between the 1st Gen. and new Gamma World (Rich Baker and Bruce Cordell devised an AMAZING new take on GW--if you missed that, shame on you!).

If I had some really hardcore regular players ready for next-level RPG intensity, a toss up between The Whispering Vault and Skyrealms of Jorune.


message 57: by Scott (new)

Scott I would only play if I could use the first edition. I've looked through the newer books I can't imagine how anybody has any fun with them. They are so needlessly complicated.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments Hi Phillip, I played first edition Gamma World, but the GM wasn't that great. I've been DMing since '78 and started with first edition. I've played several editions but now when I play I use 2nd edition rules (largely) I have the notes, maps, etc. for the world I've been building since '78 so I still use it (though I have a shelf of modules I can "cheat in" a bit if I want).

Scott, I use 2nd edition rules because they did streamline the game a bit without losing the magic and imagination. In first edition D&D there was a lot more checking tables and so on. 2nd came up with more shorthand ways to get the results of dice roles without grabbing the table every time, so I stay with 2nd. I think from 3 on they've been dumbing the game down and mostly just giving an excuse to sell more hard cover books. Just my opinion of course. I think 3.5 and then 4 have almost killed the game.


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Jason (darkfiction) | 3204 comments Casey wrote: "I've always wanted to try a tabletop RPG. I've gotten close a couple of times, but the group always fell apart. I've done a bunch of post-by-post forum role plays and more RP than I can measure in ..."

This is my problem!


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments I've been trying to get "re-started" here. My group had to take a hiatus for a few months, and now we're having trouble getting a time everyone can get together again. Looks like it may be a late morning to early afternoon game on odd Saturdays now. We'll see.


message 61: by [deleted user] (new)

Wait, you worked for Wizards of the Coast, Philip? The only game I've ever been really invested in is Magic the Gathering...it was always kind of my secret shame! Lol...I had no one near me who played so I traveled and won a City Champs tourney and then moved on to attending PTQ's and the such. I don't think I'll ever completely get rid of the itch to play


message 62: by Robert (last edited Jul 03, 2011 09:19AM) (new)

Robert MacAnthony (steerpike7) | 218 comments I play 1E AD&D still. More often, with younger players, we play Castles & Crusades, which is heavily based on the old editions of D&D, but with some updated rule sets that are a lot of fun. I can easily adapt 1e material on the fly when running a game, so that's nice.

3.5 I'm lukewarm about. Likewise, Pathfinder, for obvious reasons, though I do think it improves on 3.5.

I'll play anything except the abomination that is 4e (and I'll probably steer well clear of anything else Hasbro puts out from here forward).


message 63: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments I started with the ancient, three-booklet set of rules and later added the first supplement, 'Greyhawk'. I didn't buy any of the later rulebooks. The concept was already provided by those first booklets, and I saw all the later editions as either attempts to expand on the concept or make more money...not that I see anything wrong with that. But, armed with the original concept, a pile of high-impact polyhedral dice, and imagination, I didn't see any need to buy those books myself.


message 64: by Erica (new)

Erica (bookpsycho) When I was a kid, my parents thought rpg's like D&D were devil games. I "snuck" it once at a friend's house and loved it. My name in the game was Silver Leaf Half Moon. What is ironic is that when my baby brother became a teenager, my parents couldn't care less if he played. Gender descrimination? Maybe...


message 65: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments I think it's more likely that the righteous outrage over D&D flickered out as people lost interest and the mania was replaced by lurid tales of devil-worshiping day-care centers. That flickered out after a while also, but not before many lives were disrupted or ruined.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments Mostly it became clear how silly it was (I'm an ordained minister and a dungeon master). I know that kids can include some "unpleasant" things in games as open ended as D&D, but I solved that by being the DM for my son and his friends. LOL.


message 67: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments I think that some people may have finally seen how silly all the fuss was. Others simply moved on to the next manufactured crisis.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments Oh yes...and they made a TV movie of it...both book and movie, pathetic, though I believe I've said that elsewhere.

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...


message 69: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments Hollywood has never quite figured out how to treat or portray gamers, except as a strange and exotic alien life form.


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments Apparently the same is true for Ms. Jaffe...


message 71: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Lewis (sjlewis) | 469 comments Very likely so. But it's not as if gamers were just strange individual lifeforms. There's also a gamer culture, and not everyone understands that either. It's typical to imagine gamers as geeks and nerds with no social skills, but that's far from accurate.


message 72: by Robert (new)

Robert MacAnthony (steerpike7) | 218 comments Gamers run the gamut. I have some friends who are gamers and also lack social skills to a large degree. I have other friends who are gamers and have tremendous social skills. These gamers also run the gamut from lawyers to accountants to scientists, teachers, computer programmers. Like any other group of people, stereotypes don't work well.


message 73: by Robert (new)

Robert MacAnthony (steerpike7) | 218 comments Also, let me add - for anyone who really likes to read fantasy books, if you've never tried a pen and paper RPG at a table with a group of fellow gamers, it's definitely worth checking into. You may well enjoy it a great deal.


message 74: by Robert (new)

Robert MacAnthony (steerpike7) | 218 comments Oh...and looking back over the thread - I'm up for play by post. You can also play in real time over skype with a free program like Maptools :)


message 75: by Laurel (new)

Laurel Is there any way to play the Dresden RPG online? I've never games, but I would love to explore the Dresden universe!


Mike (the Paladin) (thepaladin) | 5387 comments You know...you can't read and play Diablo 3 at the same time. Not even an audio book. First time through I like to hear the game.


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