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The worst paranormal series you've ever read?
I thought the Black Dagger Brotherhood books were awesome. What didnt you like about them?
Bailey wrote: "I thought the Black Dagger Brotherhood books were awesome. What didnt you like about them?"For me I believe it to be the POV. And the fact that someone dies so fast. ( I can’t remember the names) I just couldn’t put myself there. And I am REALLY bad if the book does not grab me from “Hello”…..lol.
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I can't understand why so many people love that series and how Ward gets to be an NYT best selling author. And before anyone says anything about my using the word "an" before NYT--that is gramatically correct. When using abrievations, if the first letter sounds like it starts with a vowel (ess, en, em) or IS a vowel, you use "an". And yes, I AM driven nuts by authors who use the wrong tenses, words etc. I grew up in a family with many, many, many teachers and had all the rules of grammar pounded into my head from a very early age. When my Dad was home he would read to us at night. His idea of "correct" bed-time stories? The plays of William Shakespeare. Also Shakespeare's sonnets plus the poetry of Blake, Browning, Wordsworth, Barret Browning, Byron and on and on and on.
Er, ok, climbing down off my soapbox now. Sorry, was helping my grandkids with their English assignments earlier and well. . .
OMG, Anna! I can so relate. Wrong tenses, poor grammar, and misspellings make me nuts! My own pet peeve is the misuse of it's and its. I think all the years of teaching (and correcting) fourth grade writing has left its mark. And whatever happened to editing something before it goes "public?" Augh! A poorly edited book will go straight to the UBS. I can't even bear to finish it. My inner teacher with the red pen automatically goes into overdrive and distracts from the plot.
The 4th is all about the war with a very sad ending. I preordered the 5th, hoping it isn't as tragic.
I just quit reading the Young Brother's first book Fangs for the Memories. It was awful. It has a lighthearted title and is fairly dark and also lame. LOL.
Smut, ITA with you about Reneseme, it didn't make sense at all and it is way too hard to say..
I know, why didn't she give her a double barrel name or something like Renee-Esme, or Resmee lol
Suzanne wrote: "In Lost he had Sawyer to compete with, and well, I am sorry to say, but Sawyer is soooo much more gorgeous then Ian!I have to say the point that annoyed me the most, although it is somethiing r..."
Oh I totally agree with you about the name 'Renesmee'!! SO ridiculous that I actually laughed out loud when I saw that!! That really really bugged me and the more I think of it, the more I feel like taking a star off my rating for that book!!!
And to think, if only she named that child after Charlie and Carlisle, she would have had a cute name like Carlie.
Suzanne wrote: "In Lost he had Sawyer to compete with, and well, I am sorry to say, but Sawyer is soooo much more gorgeous then Ian!I have to say the point that annoyed me the most, although it is somethiing r..."
I agree about Sawyer. And the name choosing demonstrated her immaturity in my opinion. The entire thing with RE (sorry forgot how to spell her name) ticked me off. How perfect -- a baby that sleeps through the night from the get-go, and matures out of the difficult babyhood/toddlerhood years immediately so that Bella doesn't *really* have to ever learn to be a mom. Really just seemed like a childish fantasy. I also hated the pat way Meyers get rid of the Jacob-Edward-Bella triangle. It really ticked me off the whole bonding thing between Jacob and RE.
I do agree about Ward being a bad writer. However I still enjoy the stories b/c the ideas, the chacters and the world are so darned good.
I was not a fan at all of the last book. I thought it was terrible.
Regina, I couldn't have said it better myself! I never did like the imprinting thing. I mean, Jake is totally in love with Bella but then, all of a sudden, he is in love with Bella's DAUGHTER??? OMG! Wow, never understood that? I mean, it is like sleeping with your former lover's daughter, right out of a soap opera! They did this on Young & the Restless.All through the books, Bella just wants to have sex with Edward, she says she loves him but won't marry him, disregards his feelings and emotions and can't stop kissing him. And yeah, isn't it funny how Edward and Bella produced a perfect baby..
And what a fantasy that is right -- LOL -- the boy holds back and want have sex!! LOL.
Edward is a liar! No vampire would wait over 70 years to have sex! LOL.
hahahaha! No vamp? How about noBody would. I also, may be odd, but I don't find that sort of withholding forever attractive in my men.
OMG, Regina! YES! That's what I've been telling people! That part in the books just drives me crazy! It isn't true! Oh,oh, oh, it just kills me. What man says no to sex, especially when it is Bella, someone who he is attracted to?Also, here is a question that you ladies might be able to answer. OK, so a vampire's heart stops beating right? OK, so how do the male vampires get an erection? Heart ... pumping blood ... vampire heart ... no longer pumping. Just don't get it??
LOL maybe that is why the BDB vamps have extra chambers to their heart -- they need alot more blood to fuel their ..... *wink*Heather I have thought that, additionally if that was the case then how did Edward get Bella pregnant -- why is his body making more fluids? But I guess that is where the fantasy and suspension of reality comes in ....
I was talking to a neighbor of mine who loves the Riley Jenson series and I told her what I said on page 1 or 2 of this thread about why book 2 and thus the series bothered me (the unbelievability of 4 sexual encoutners in 1 evening) and my neighbor said to me, "So the vampires, the horse shifters and the werewolves didn't make you doubt the believability but her oversexed libido did?" I thought that was funny.
I guess we suspend reality to read these books, but some things are just beyond the suspension.
Has anyone read any of Chelsea Quinn Yarbo's Saint-Germaine books? Her hero is a vampire, and he can't have an erection. Doesn't mean he can't and doesn't have sex. It's an interesting series following the life of a character who has lived for a couple of thousand years. Saint-Germaine grows and changes and becomes more civilized as the series progresses. These books aren't classified as romance (although they're pretty romantic). They're classified as horror. They are also well written novels.
Regina, again you have shown your agile mind working! Isn't it funny what we will 'believe' and what we won't??In Twilight, Edward says something like that to Bella in the sense that she is nervous about his family not liking her but not about being in a room full of vampires?? Always makes me chuckle..
RE Edward and sex, I did find it rather easy to buy that he wasn't all about sex. He was from a different time, a different world. That's just how he was raised.
But no, I don't exactly look to my PNR books for logic and believability. As long as it fits the lore of the world it's written in, I'm good. Sparkly vamps were fine, because that's how Meyer made her world, but if Jean Claude and Asher suddenly started sparkling, we'd have a problem!
But no, I don't exactly look to my PNR books for logic and believability. As long as it fits the lore of the world it's written in, I'm good. Sparkly vamps were fine, because that's how Meyer made her world, but if Jean Claude and Asher suddenly started sparkling, we'd have a problem!
Smut Bitch - I agree with you. You have to look at the world that the author has built. If you look at vampire lore, there are so many different ones out there. For example, you have vampires that can go out in the day, others that burn up in daylight, and of course the sparkly ones. Then you have vamps that sleep like death during the day, those who stay awake at all hours, and those that sleep in the day.Regarding the vampire semen question - I think I saw it explained on Stephenie Meyer's website that his semen was venemous, but not sure if that's right.
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I've read some of the St. Germaine books. And you are right--they are romantic, but when they were written I don't think they HAD a PNR classification, just Horror since they dealt with a vamp.
After reading my very first St. Germaine book I had to go read about the "real" St. Germaine. (She based the character on a real person.) In a collection of short stories she did, she talks about the research she was doing for a vamp story that she wanted to set in the time that St. Germaine lived and that she'd planned on using St. Germaine and a few others as themselves in the series. Then she said that a light bulb went off and she kind of went "Duh, why am I trying to FIND a vamp when I have the perfect person in St. Germaine?" (He claimed to be anything from 30 to a couple thousand years old--and that he was an alchemist and on occasion that he was a vamp.) So she decided to just take him at his word and start writing about him.
The one thing that I really loved about her stories is that how people perceived St. Germaine's height changed depending on what era a particular story was set. In the 15th/16th/17th centuries he was viewed as "tall". In the 18th and 19th he was viewed as "average". And in the 20th century he was viewed as short. And, ok, I admit, as a student of history, having someone from our time go back to medieval (or dark ages) time and "find" (read steal) clothes that they could use is just totally not believable. We wont. . .
er, never mind, will skip the rant. That's one of the problems of working in a museum. You get to find out a lot about the every day life of people from the past. And you get to listen to ALL the people that work there talk about their specialities. As a result, well, I tend to be a tad bit picky about some things. But I will try to NOT bore you guys with it all. :o)
Kelleigh wrote: "Malissa De La Cruz's Blue Blood series - Horrible!"LOL. You took the words right out of my mouth, Kelleigh.
I haven't read it, but I've heard some really weird things about the Lords of Satyr series. Of course it just made me curious about them, I just haven't had time to check them out.
I read the first one for the same reason. It is all true. Lol.
Regina wrote: "LOL maybe that is why the BDB vamps have extra chambers to their heart -- they need alot more blood to fuel their ..... *wink*Heather I have thought that, additionally if that was the case then..."
Couldn't agree more!! I love these types of books because for those moments when you are reading, you get transported to a whole other world and escape reality.....but the whole vampire baby, imprinting thing in Breaking Dawn was taking it that one step too far for me! or as you put it some things are just beyond the suspension!!
I hated the love triangle in Twilight, it really annoyed me and I think Bella led Jacob on as well which bugged me. And don't get me started on the whole "sparkly" vampire thing, that is just stupid! And in the films he just looks all sweaty, which is so very not attractive! Although despite how much both the films and books annoy me, I am going to see Eclipse tomorrow, mainly to see more of Jacobs chest : )I have read all apart from the last one of the Lords of Satyr books, and yeah they are quite weird, but I love the bookcovers!
Lol Suzanne about jacob's chest. Mmmm man sweat. ;)
hehe, it was the best thing about New Moon, seriously when I was in the cinema watching it, when he takes his tshirt off when Bella fell off her bike, you could actually hear all of the female audience sigh, then everyone laughed at the audience wide sigh!
But it feels so wrong, to be a 36 yr old with a 15 yr old son, to be lusting after that chest.
But I do it anyway.....
But I do it anyway.....
After The Hunted in HON I couldn't get into the next one. To far out there. The next series in VD The Return or something?... Couldn't make it threw the first couple of chapters. Morganiville I had to stop at the Carpe Corpus. I got half way threw that one and couldn't make it anymore. I actually stopped reading for a long time after that cause it just turned me off. I loved Fallen and Hush, Hush. I tried to read Peeps by Scott Westerfield and hated it after the first couple pages. Blah. Thirst by Christopher Pike. Third person story telling....Ummm NO.
Mariya wrote: "Jen wrote: "I gave up on the VD's when it was announced vampires don't have sex. Really? Lame.The only YA series I think I enjoyed was the Vampire Academy by Richelle Mead."
hahaha. i knoe. ..."
I love the Vampire Academy. At least the night Dimitri turns Strigoi,him and Rose hook up. Not in a raunchy adult PNR.
Smut Bitch wrote: "But it feels so wrong, to be a 36 yr old with a 15 yr old son, to be lusting after that chest.But I do it anyway....."
Especially when he was only about 17 at the time! eek! ;)
Smut Bitch wrote: "But it feels so wrong, to be a 36 yr old with a 15 yr old son, to be lusting after that chest.But I do it anyway....."
Lol, well I blame him, he shoudln't have such a lovely chest, beside he is legal... just barely
**Danielle** wrote: "I would have to say The Cassie Palmer Series by Karen Chance. She fustrates me to the point of throwing the book across the room."I agree with you. I could not even finish the first book. :)
I couldn't stand the Cassie Palmer series at first as well.. I read about half way then gave up. BUT... I tried it again after my friend insisted it gets better, and it actually did get pretty good. I was hooked by the second book and the rest is history. I would urge you to give it one more try... and don't stop until you've finished the first book. You just might be surprised!I was!
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I love the Cassie Palmer series, I agree that it is slow to start, but once it gets going it is brilliant
Hey Smut, I got a couple of years on ya and I totally lust after Edward. All I think of is that I am old enough to be him 'Mum'... When I saw NM, several girls screamed out and right before it happened, I told my friend to be prepared. I have seen Eclipse twice now and I can't tell how many times I have sighed at scenes with feature Bella and Edward. Sigh... see, there I go again..I like the fact that authors have different thoughts and ideas regarding vampires. Whether they sparkle, die in sun, can be invited in, hate crosses, etc.
Suzanne wrote: "I love the Cassie Palmer series, I agree that it is slow to start, but once it gets going it is brilliant"One more agreeing on the Cassie Palmer series. It was really tough to get into, but I persevered because it came to me so highly recommended, and it ended up really, really good. I can't wait for the next one!
How long does it take for the Cassie Palmer series to get good?
Regina wrote: "How long does it take for the Cassie Palmer series to get good?"I'd say about 50-60% through the first book. It's been a while since I read it... I just remember there was TONS of world-building, which got to be kinda much. But at the same time, you sort of need a lot of those details to understand what the heck is happening. Once it gets going, it really gets going, in my opinion... I've made the comment before that I've felt exhausted after finishing a book from all the running around and action that's going on.
Regina wrote: "How long does it take for the Cassie Palmer series to get good?"LOL, I've read them all and I'll probably keep reading them but they absolutely wear me out. She goes from one big fight to another and it exhausts me. I think the only thing that keeps me coming back is the attraction/relationship between Cassie & Mircea and Cassie & Pritkin so now I just need to see how it all works out. I swear though, with all her action scenes I think I actually lose a few pounds reading her books.
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[pant pant:]
Sorry, had to get that out of my system.
Vampire Diaries....As someone else mentioned its hard to like a book when you dont like the female lead and Elena in the book is beyond annoying! Love the TV show though. Also I only read one of the Carpathian series by Christine Feehan before vowing never to read her stuff again.....the characters were mega annoying and the flowery euphamisms really got on my nerves!
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Totally agree 100% with you! Waste, waste, waste. I couldnt even get past chapeter 4....