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message 301: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Plus it's a bigger book, so the font size is pretty much the same as most books.


message 302: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments OK ... found out who John Galt is!

Why is this book so irresistible?


message 303: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce Don't you dare tell!!! :))


message 304: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments no worries. Just tryin to get you laggarts to catch up to me lol.


message 305: by Sheila , Supporting Chick (new)

Sheila  | 3485 comments Mod
My gosh Laura, what chapter are you on? :o)
Our reading assignment for this week is Part 2, Chapters 1-3. :o)


message 306: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Part 2, Chapter 10. I started out behind, so I was reading fast to catch up to you guys, then I got so into the story, I couldn't stop.

Now it seems like I can't stop, even though I'd like to. The last time I felt like this w/a book was Twilight. Book Crack!


message 307: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce We are reading as fast as we can, Laura. So, in the meantime grab yourself a copy of Mudbound and join Shay and I in a discussion on it.
The book is FANTASTIC!!!


message 308: by Nancy (new)

Nancy I think I have the same copy as you Laura - a bit larger than trade size, same number of pages and a reasonable font size. But I do wish it wasn't so hard to hold.


message 309: by Meg (last edited Jul 30, 2010 03:22PM) (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments I really loved this :

Reardon is the Atlas holding up the country's economic system.

and

Morality is the most powerful weapon that evil men wield in their war against good.


message 310: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments The best is yet to come.....Book Three!


message 311: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce Something like Congress passing a health care bill because it is good or us but not good for them, I think, Meg.


message 312: by Emily (new)

Emily (ejfalke) | 576 comments Laura wrote: "OK ... found out who John Galt is!

Why is this book so irresistible?"


:) :) :) :) :) He does what he says he would do, doesn't he?


message 313: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments heehee! I'm zipping the lip, but let me just say that Book Three gets even better! :)


message 314: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce You are such a tease!


message 315: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments It's so funny, Marialyce, I thought I'd be barely able to keep up the Chunky schedule on this book, but it's completely captivated me. I'm still blown away, after almost two weeks of reading.


message 316: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Are you surprised at your reaction to the book?


message 317: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments I am surprised at my reaction, but Laura, I am shocked at yours!!!!


message 318: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce I am actually. I was intimidated by the length and small text, but I am having such a reaction to writing of over 50 years ago that I am blown away by it. It is frightening for me sometimes to read what can be interpreted as happening now in our time. Was Ayn Rand being prophetic? Was her vision our present?


message 319: by Nancy (new)

Nancy Or does history repeat itself and run in cycles?


message 320: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Meg wrote: "I am surprised at my reaction, but Laura, I am shocked at yours!!!!"

lol Meg, no more shocked than I am! I didn't even wanna read this once I found out how coughcoughrightwingcoughcough it was, but CRAP it's awesome! It's almost like going to college and taking Philosophy, Business & Econ 101.


message 321: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Marialyce - It's crazy wild how relevant this is and at times, prophetic too!

And Nancy I do think history repeats itself. Just like everything else in life is so based on cycles. Everything, if you think about it. The seasons, the moon, our bodies, everything.


message 322: by Emily (new)

Emily (ejfalke) | 576 comments Y'all're crackin' me UP!


message 323: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Book Three
Book Three

!!!


message 324: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce Oh I really have to read a lot to get there, Laura. Only up to Chapter 4 in Book 2, but I promise to get crackin! You are going to LOVE Far From The Madding Crowd


message 325: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Yay I can't wait for Madding, thanks Marialyce! You're getting there!!!


message 326: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce Laura,
Do you have a Kindle? They are giving free downloads on all the classics.I downloaded 29 classics for nada!


message 327: by Laura (last edited Aug 02, 2010 05:50AM) (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments I'm a booksniffer Marialyce, I just can't see buying a Kindle. Maybe if I carried a new book w me so I could sniff it all the time. I love the smell of new books!

Do you have to pay a monthly fee just to have wireless service on a kindle? I have thought about it from time to time. And I love the classics, so it would make sense for me.


message 328: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce No, we do not pay a fee, but we do have wireless in the house so I am not sure if that effects the connection. I know I just switch it onto wireless and download the books. You could always keep a new book near you for the scent of the words!


message 329: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments We have wireless too. I'm gonna have to think about this!! Plus, can't you change the typeface and the size of the print too? That's another big plus.


message 330: by Marialyce (last edited Aug 02, 2010 06:00AM) (new)

Marialyce Yes, you can and you can turn the kindle in a position that you are comfortable with either vertically or horizontally. It adjusts automatically. Another good thing is that many new books are available and you can download the first chapter for free and see if you like it. Bestsellers are usually $9.99 on it. ...not to mention that the books that weigh a million pounds weigh nothing on the kindle.


message 331: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments OK Marialyce, list the classics you downloaded. I am having trouble finding them.

Laura no fees for using kindle. And now you can also put it directly on your pc. It so awesome.


message 332: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments Which one do you guys have, the 6" screen or the larger one? And do you have trouble reading outside in the sun?


message 333: by Marialyce (new)

Marialyce Ok Here they are:
A Christmas Carol, The Life and Most Surprising Times of Robin Hood,
Moby Dick or, the Whale, The Invisible Man, The Island of Dr. Moreau, The Man in the Iron Mask, The Picture of Dorian Gray, The Phantom of the Opera, The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Crime and Punishment, The Scarlet Letter, War and Peace, Dracula, Far From the Madding Crowd, The Age of innocence, The Book of the Dead, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, Vanity Fair, The People of the Mist, Leviathan, Middlemarch, Treasure Island, The First Men in the Moon, Kidnapped, The Man Who Would Be King, The Sea Wolf, The Last of the Mohicans, and The Call of the Wild.

They had more, Meg, I have all the Bronte and Austen books already so I didn't download those. My husband and I share the Kindle so some are for him.


message 334: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments Thank you for the list


message 335: by Emily (new)

Emily (ejfalke) | 576 comments Ah, The Call of the Wild. I love that one.

Sorry, off topic.


message 336: by Sheila , Supporting Chick (new)

Sheila  | 3485 comments Mod
For those of you who don't have a kindle (like me) you can download the free Amazon Kindle for PC program onto your computer from Amazon, then get all the free book downloads onto your computer, all for free. Here is the link to download Kindle for free to your PC, iPad, iPhone, Mac, blackberry, or android

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html...

And here are links to the free books on Amazon that Jenny posted on another thread here on CoL

Free Classics for kindle:
http://www.amazon.com/s/?node=2245146011

Promotional Books for free (limited time):
http://www.amazon.com/s/?node=2279458011

Top 100 free books (right column)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/...


message 337: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments thank you


message 338: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments This week's reading oh boy. We are all in for a big ride now.


message 339: by Elena (last edited Aug 04, 2010 05:20AM) (new)

Elena I took my book to Florida, and the truth is that it was a little to heavy for the beach. I read something else while in there and read the book on the plane. I am at 50%. It is hard to remember what chapter I am in on the Kindle since I can't just look back, and that is why I am staying away from the spoiler thread.

I am surprised I am enjoying this long book so much. The theme is a complicated one and can be dry at some times, but the characters are so alive, that it grabs me.


message 340: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments I agree with you Elena. Do not worry about posting if you are further than the suggested read. Everyone seems to be much further ahead, except me, but that is great. I am glad you are enjoying the book. If there are any complicated parts that you have questions about feel free. I find that when I read a chapter that is more complicated and I feel I missed out, I review with cliff notes. It helps me a bit because some of the political parts are pretty deep.


message 341: by Elena (new)

Elena It is complicated in the sense that you have to think while reading to get the meaning of what is being said. I felt like being back at my economics class in college!

I love when Rearden talks about love!


message 342: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments I think Rearden's idea of love is amazing. His love of the industry and Dagny and how he is so torn. Rand does a great job with the character development of these two.


message 343: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments I'm getting close to the end, but i'd like to go back through with the Cliffs notes, Meg, I think that's a great idea. Some of the philosophy stuff is a bit beyond me, but frankly I think one of the reasons this resonates w me so much is I was an Accounting major.

So I took Business 101, as well as Economics 101, and just happened to take Philosophy 101 and Ethics. Really and truthfully, I bet colleges are teaching this book as a course. If they're not, they should be because it crosses so many disciplines. Toms to discuss!


message 344: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments *tons, sorry can't edit from the phone


message 345: by Elena (new)

Elena Ok, what are Cliff's notes?


message 346: by Meg (new)

Meg (megvt) | 3069 comments They sum up each chapter for the book.


message 347: by Marialyce (last edited Aug 04, 2010 06:10AM) (new)

Marialyce I, too, am not ahead, Meg. I find I need to take this novel in small doses.

A part that intrigued me was when Dr Ferris and Reardon are discussing laws. "Do you really think that we want those laws to be observed ...We want them broken. ...We're after power ...The only power the government has is to crack down on criminals. Well when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. "

Ferris calls it cashing in on guilt. I found this so very fascinating and wonder what everyone's thoughts are on it.


message 348: by Nancy (last edited Aug 04, 2010 06:42AM) (new)

Nancy Francisco's speech at the wedding was amazing. It went a long way in validating the whole capitalist philosophy. Then the conversation between he and Rearden in the third chapter was powerful. Followed by the sudden accident that derails the conclusion to that discussion - pun intended... foreshadowing some truths about Francisco.


message 349: by Nancy (last edited Aug 04, 2010 07:03AM) (new)

Nancy Cashing in on guilt - oh boy!! YES, I see people USING others' sense of obligation and morality to their advantage. But then again don't you think that sometimes that is the ultimate conflict in our society? Our inability to clarify or separate what is good for society from what is good for ourselves, and then identify a fair means to achieving that. I think that is what our partisan fighting is all about. Ideally we want the same thing, but we can't agree on the methods, nor honestly see the short or long term effects of those means. Sometimes that conflict and blindness is within ourselves. We think what we believe is for the good of all, when in reality it is self serving. I probably don't make sense. That is my optomistic, naive view of the average middle American. Then there are all those who are part of that complicated web of influence and pull. This country is SO large and business so vast that it is hard to begin to decifer all the lies and corruption.


message 350: by Laura (last edited Aug 04, 2010 08:15AM) (new)

Laura (apenandzen) | 1445 comments a few interesting links re: academia/Atlas:

http://chronicle.com/article/Atlas-Sh...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/st...

Check out this course! I'll have to download Real Player to view it though - a chapter-by-chapter discussion of Atlas!

http://aynrandnovels.com/novels/atlas...


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