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The Many Deaths of JK Rowling
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If you could save one of the characters that died in any of the books who would it be??
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Fred. Or maybe Dobby. But probably Fred.
After careful consideration, I would have to say Tonks. She needs more than anyone to be saved because her son is depending on her. There was Lupin too but he is older and if he had to choose I know he would have wanted Tonks to be the one to raise their son. If neither Tonks or Lupin could be saved, then it would seem that Dobby would be the next most deserving person, as he lived such a selfless life.
As a reader, I would love to have know what Snape would have done next had he survived...but I wouldn't save him and the proper end to any tragic story is, of course, death. I had forgotten about Fred and I suppose that Dobby and Fred could duke it out for second place on the pardons list. But I'd still go with Dobby there...after Lupin and Tonks.
I would save Sirius Black. That way Harry can end up living with Sirius and they can be one happy family. What can I say, I'm a sucker for major happy endings.
I would save Sirius too. Harry has been living with this terrible family. He deserves happiness and love in his life. Sirius would have given him that.
Tonks/Lupin. Their death was given no meaning whatsoever. :(-Rob
I think Albus Dumbledore would be another character I would bring back. Albus was like a grandfather to Harry, always giving advice that was helpful to Harry and helped Harry understand things that confused him.
Hmm, do I only have to pick one? That makes it harder for me to choose.I think, just from a pure state of heartbreak, I would bring back Dumbledore. I was so upset when he died. Second, I would bring back Fred. There's just no George without Fred, and vice versa. How can you kill one of the twins!?!
Sirius too. And Tonks and Lupin. Okay, I can't just pick one so I guess it's a good thing I'm not JK :). I didn't really understand why Tonks and Lupin had to die. Maybe one of them, but both? They have a newborn waiting at home for them. Geez.
I think with Tonks/Lupin dying its history repeating it self. Like with Harry's parents dying, Harry becomes an orphan, Sirius is his godfather. Tonks/Lupin dying, the baby becomes orphaned, but Harry is his Godfather. See the pattern? I think that JK did that for a reason.
Ashley -- true. I was really trying to fight seeing that pattern though! Plus, the nice thing for Tonks/Lupin's baby is that he has his grandparents still living, and they are significantly more loving than Harry's Aunt and Uncle. Mainly, I'm just bitter that she killed them, I really liked them! Lol :)
Tara-- I think we are all bitter about a lot of the good guys being killed off. We all like the good guys.
I agree with Ashley...I would bring back Sirius. I hated that he died, as I felt he was the family Harry was missing. I remember reading PoA the first time, and feeling so elated for Harry finding this person with whom he could have finally had a home. It was sad enough when the Ministry's refusal to believe the truth about Pettigrew made their living together impossible. It was devastating when Sirius died.
I agree with you Courtney. Sirius was the family that Harry needed. Sirius was someone Harry felt comfortable with telling all his problems, feelings etc, without any hesitation. Sirius was sort of that father figure for Harry.
I would also agree about saving Sirius. Though his death was so poignant (and for the record, I wouldn't want to change anything that happened in the books), Sirius was really Harry's last best chance at a real home and a parent who loved him.
i would definitely save fred. he was so young. i, of course, miss sirius and dumbledore and dobby...but fred had so much life ahead of him. and you know it would have been a great life. :) after fred, i would save lupin.
Someone mentioned that Teddy Lupin (Remus/Dora's child) still has his grandparents. He actually only has his grandmother. Ted, Dora's father, was killed. I think they mentioned it on the "Potter Watch" radio show. I wish one of the Malfoy's would have died. Probably Lucius.
And I'd bring back Fred. And Hedwig. Man, I was so mad when she killed off the bird! I'd consider bringing back Sirius, but I'm a bit leery of the trouble he'd get himself and Harry into.
i'd definetely choose Fred. i don't understand why she had to kill him, how can there be a gerorge without fred, it's just not right.hmmmm.....i would also like to save hedwig, i on't see any importance in killing the owl, i mean what's the point? last but not least...Snape. i'd love to read what's going to happen between harry n snape in case snape survive. it should be interesting.
Definitely Fred. It's just so cruel to separate the twins like that. I still can't believe she actually did it. And Cedric Diggory! From what we've seen of him, he would have done a lot of good in his life had he not been in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Indeed. Tonks' mum is the only one left now to raise her son. It's sooo sad. And I thought that Harry would raise the boy (wasn't that kind of his duty as godfather?) but they seemed to be insinuating that the child only came to visit them frequently but didn't actually live with Harry's family.
Fred! Definitely, Fred. Because I don't think George would be the same without him and Molly's rage at Bellatrix.... That was fantastic (being a mother of four I would have killed more!!!!)! But in response to Rob's comment that Lupin & Tonk's death was given no meaning....I read a spoiler, I don't know if this is JK Rowling's writing that was hacked from her computer but Lupin & Tonk's death there was spectacular because they held hands just before they faced Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic to give Harry the chance to escape with the others. It's a totally different version but there was the search for the Horcruxes, the Battle at Hogwarts, etc. My brother & I liked it but the original was still the best....
Wednesday -- I completely forgot that Ted was killed! How could I miss that? I have no excuse but I'm going to use one anyway: I'm just so bitter and heartbroken over the deaths of so many wonderful characters that I have completely blocked it all out of my mind and am now in a complete state of denial! LOL.Lucius dying would have been sweet! Is that morbid?
I have to agree with Wednesday and Ruby, what's the point in killing an owl?
Dude,how could I forget about Hedwig dying!!!. I'm going with Tara's excuse...I'm in denial..LOL. That broke my heart when Hedwig died. And I agree there was no point in killing the owl. He wasn't an important character...just Harry's pet. Unless.... JK had a reason and point to that kill off and we failed to see it in the last book.
I'm finally making a post after reading only reading the digest for so long! Whee! ;)Although it breaks my heart to see Fred die, I think his death meant a lot to Harry because Fred and George were like a ray of sunshine in the otherwise gloomy world threatened by Voldemort. Remember how their joke shop was the only happy place in Diagon Alley after Voldemort returned? They represent so much of what Harry considers as 'normal world' that when he died Harry felt like 'the world had ended' (or something like that, I forgot the exact words). Plus the Weasleys were like surrogate family to Harry. I thought if any of the Weasleys had to die, I think it's a big possibility it would be one of the twins... or if JK wants to make it as tragic as it can be, Ron.
To Tara: Instead of Lucius, how about Narcissa? I think her death would've been heartbreaking for Lucius and Draco and it might even make them feel remorse and change their ways for good... but I think then the topic of this thread would change from 'who would you save' to 'who would you kill'!
Re the point of Hedwig's death fyi: I remember reading a J. K. Rowling web chat where she said that Hedwig’s death was necessary to show the loss/death of innocence. That she’d been with Harry from the time he entered Hogwart’s and her death showed Harry was leaving his childhood and becoming an adult. Or something like that.
Dini -- Hmm, killing Narcissa would definitely have a different outcome for Lucius and Draco. I don't know if I would kill her though. I really liked how she saved Harry by telling Voldemort that he was dead after he had responded to her that Draco was still alive. It's that whole mother's love thing, I think. Ron and Harry certainly did not HAVE to save Draco, but by saving him, Harry was saved. Now, on the other hand, depending on who killed Narcissa we could either see a change for the better or worse in Lucius and Draco. If Narcissa was killed by another Death Eater, possibly Voldemort, Lucius would have turned (I think) in a heartbeat! If Narcissa had been killed by one of our good guys, Lucius would have fought harder for Voldemort.I do think "Who would you kill?" is a good thread topic, Dini. That's definitely something to think about. :)
Lisa -- I like that. Hedwig's death is the journey from childhood to adulthood for Harry. I didn't even "see" that when I was reading the scene. I just was so heartbroken! That makes a lot of sense though because Hedwig had been Harry's only friend during those long summers with the Durseleys (did I spell that right?) -- at least until the Weasleys would come for him. I guess Hedwig embodies that "thing" we all lose when we take that last step from children to adults.
You all make excellent pionts. But I think Sirius had to die. It just made sense. Harry learned more from his death. These deaths just make the villins more sinister and evil and you want to see their downfall even more! If I was to bring anyone back though I think it would be Fred. He was one of my favorite charactors.I also don't see why Colin Creevey had to die. He wasn't exactly in that story and wouldn't it be cool if he became a photographer someday?
The whole point of these books is that Harry is alone and that he has to figure out things for himself. But in the end, it would have been nice for Sirius to live. The way that he died was so anti-climatic, it definitely left a hole. JK has a knack for heart wrenching deaths!
As the mommy of a 3 yo, I would have to bring back Tonks. Dying while your kids are too young to fend for themselves is every mother's secret horror. My gut response, however, was Hedwig. To some extent, the humans chose to risk death for a purpose, because some things are worth dying for. The owl was an innocent bystander.
Upon more reflection, I'd bring back Voldemort. Then JKR would have to write more books! Bwah-hah-hah-hah-hah!
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i actually love the fact that none of the malfoy's died. it means they have to live the rest of their lives in debt to harry for freeing them from the grasp of voldemort. and come one, that's worse than death for them! :)
if I could save one of the characters i would save Lily. I would save Lily because then Harry wouldn't have to go and live with his aunt and uncle. he would also know that he is a wizard and would know some maggic by the time he goes to hogwarts. i wish i could save all of the good guys though.
YES Tabitha!!! Lily for sure and if I can have TWO, then Lily and James. OF COURSE!! so that Harry wasn't an orphan.I was very sad at every death -- Cedric, Dumbledore, Hedwig, Fred, Moody, Lupin and Tonks, but if Lily and James had to die, then SIRIUS would be the one who should not die. I MEAN REALLY!!! He is played by GARY OLDMAN who is so fabulous and was Beethoven ... he was a father figure to Harry ...
I am a mommy too (though my children are grown-ups) but my 2 grandsons (ages 3 and 1) need mommy and daddy HUGELY ... no one can replace them in my little grandsons' tiny hearts. How tragic for a baby to be parentless!!! Makes me cry.
I dont save anybody, bucauses the story won't be the same.And also save Fred and Dobby,Fred and George they was the happiness in the whole story they never seen sad and Dobby he deserves to live a happy live, he save the live of Harry and he always help Harry and the others.
I would save either Sirius, Lupin or Tonks.
thats hard. hedwig? i dont know. But i am in love with hedwig.seriously.
Alien wrote: "After careful consideration, I would have to say Tonks. She needs more than anyone to be saved because her son is depending on her. There was Lupin too but he is older and if he had to choose I k..."I totally agree! I would either save tonks or colin, since he had his whole life ahead.
Alien wrote: "After careful consideration, I would have to say Tonks. She needs more than anyone to be saved because her son is depending on her. There was Lupin too but he is older and if he had to choose I k..."Agreed.
Look I wouldn't save anyone because that's selfish, I want to save everyone. But probably Fred. Not because he's young and has alot of life to live (although that is also a reason), it's sort of because of George. I want him to live for George.
This is hard cause all the deaths served a purpose, without one the story would be different but I don't understand, though, why little Colin Creevey died so I would say him first then Fred cause I can't imagine George being happy without him.
Miss Silvertongue wrote: "Look I wouldn't save anyone because that's selfish, I want to save everyone. But probably Fred. Not because he's young and has alot of life to live (although that is also a reason), it's sort of be..."
Agreed.
Agreed.
because i really wish the series could continue after the 7th, i have to say: Voldemort
Fred or Dobby. Not Hedwig, although that was a wrench, too. But Fred's death literally infuriated me so much I closed the book and decided not to keep reading.My resolve didn't last more than five seconds, but I think I'd choose Fred because he was much younger than Dobby. And Dobby died saving Harry, who he really loved. But I cried practically through the whole book - Hedwig, then Moody, then Fred, Tonks, Lupin, etc.
fred coz its not fair that just a year after he got a happy job with his brother, he had to die.
I would probably save Fred, and if not him, either Tonks or Lupin. Then Sirius.
If by bringing back the person it effects the story then I'd bring back Moody, he's the safe freak and he would've gone overboard to save the Order, I think more people would've lived he hadn't died.If by bringing back the person it effects the story then I'd bring back Merope Gaunt, she would've caused Tom to develop love, therefore have no reason to start the uproar between good and evil.
However, if it was just bringing back the person that didn't effect the story.
People have given good reasons, which is why I'd decide on Tonks.
Alien is right, Lupin would want Tonks alive for their child.
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I would save Dumbledore. Though I know he wanted to die, he made such a good headmaster. He would have inspired a great deal of people if he had lived a tad bit longer after The Deathly Hallows.
I WOULD HAVE SAVED FRED DESPIRATELY BCOZ HE WAS TOO FUNNY OR EITHER SIRIUS.
I was literally in tears when Sirius died! Then when I saw it in theaters I was absolutely bawling!! I understand that his death has a huge significance to the story, but it's still horribly sad that Harry gets so close to Sirius, then he's just taken away.I kind of saw dumbledore's death coming, and I never grew close enough to Dobby to feel very sad for him. I was on such an emotional roller coaster with Snape, I just accepted it when he was killed. But with Sirius... man Sirius really hit hard! :'(
Same here. I mean, I hated it when Dumbledore died, but for me, Sirius' death is definitely the worst. I even remember when I first read it. It was that powerful.
Sirius because he and harry were planning to be a family. They both should of gotten the chance to do that
I would definitely choose to save either Lupin or Tonks. I mean, they had a child! They were so important to the story and to Harry.
