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[Literary Ames]

Yay! Can't wait.

[Josie]

You know the SOS BEST of.. lists, why not make a listopia out of them which the group can then vote on? When I was looking at the general "best of urban fantasy" listopia, mixed in were loads of YA, PNR and dystopian books. You could even make it so only the first book of the series is on there, so a series with 20 books doesn't dominate it.

[Judithe, Soap Operas never end....]

That's a nice idea! Definitely will get back to you on that!

[Steph, Serious series addict]

Sounds like a good idea, in theory. Of course, any GR member could jump on there and add any book they'd like. So, while we would make sure that we only added book 1 and the genre was appropriate, we couldn't really ensure it stayed that way. But, definitely something to consider! I like the idea of having the books easily accessible through the GR links on the list. Plus, we could see how everyone votes on their favorites. Something to think about, for sure.

Thanks for your suggestion, Josie!

[Sandra, Kindle Operator Licence Required]

Us librarians can edit the Listopia lists, but it could end up being a chore after a while ;)

[Josie]

I don't want to make it a chore for anyone! Do you know if the creator of the list has the power to edit/delete books? Because I don't mind doing the work.

[Sandra, Kindle Operator Licence Required]

As far as I know the creator can do that. But I personally haven't set up any lists, so I'm not absolutely positive, plus I'm a librarian, so my feedback on that wouldn't be valid. LOL. Sounding all official. ROFL

I'm sure the lists would be fine, in the short term - now - say 18mths. I was thinking more long term where they could be spammed.

But I do like the idea Josie ;)

[Josie]

Haha, thanks Sandra!

Yeah the spamming is pretty continuous but I figured since there are less than 100 books per list, it'd be manageable (for me, I don't want to make you guys do more work, you all do enough with Bingo etc) - it's harder when there's multiple pages to go through. LOL, who are these people who put Twilight and FSoG on every list??

[Steph, Serious series addict]

Josie wrote: "who are these people who put Twilight and FSoG on every list?? "

Seriously! LOL!

[D.G.]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! So true!!

[Judithe, Soap Operas never end....]

*blank out moment* FSoG??

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Judithe wrote: "*blank out moment* FSoG??"

I'm guessing but I would hazard Fifty Shades of Grey.

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Josie wrote: "I don't want to make it a chore for anyone! Do you know if the creator of the list has the power to edit/delete books? Because I don't mind doing the work."

I don't read as many genre as you do but I wouldn't mind helping too. Maybe someone could pick a list to take care of, less work to do. As for me....anything except YA. I don;t read enough of them and would make too many mistakes anyway.

[Steph, Serious series addict]

Yep - Fifty Shades of Grey. It's on SO many lists, many not at all applicable.

Ya'll are definitely welcome to create a listopia, if you'd like. Should probably start with what's already on our BEST OF lists and let it go from there. :)

Don't forget to share links, if you do create them. That way we can add to them. I will post a link on our BEST of threads in case members would like to use that instead/also.

[Josie]

LOL yeah that book gets everywhere! For example, it's on "Must Read Non-Fiction", "Best Stieg Larsson Books", "Urban Fantasy Book Covers - All Tattoos and Midriffs" and my personal favourite (which could have been put on there as tongue-in-cheek) "Great Dog Books".

Sure Val! There's four SOS lists:
BEST OF: Paranormal Romance Series
BEST OF: Urban Fantasy Series
BEST OF: Young Adult Fantasy Series
BEST OF: Stand Alone Novels (PNR/UF/YA genres)

I don't mind whichever ones I do. I'll do the YA one then, leaving you with the stand alones. You can choose which one you want to do out of PNR and UF and I'll do the other. If we do like Steph says and just add the ones on the list, and try to keep the PNR and UF ones adult and not mix up the genres (i.e. if the characters change in each book, it's PNR; first person, same character it's UF).

Shall we keep it to the first book in the series? It'll probably keep the numbers down so they're easier to check/keep tidy/browse through/vote on.

[Isha]

Josie wrote: "I don't want to make it a chore for anyone! Do you know if the creator of the list has the power to edit/delete books? Because I don't mind doing the work."

Josie as the creator you only have the power to edit the title and description of the list but you won't have the power to delete books unless you're a librarian

[Sandra, Kindle Operator Licence Required]

Ah well, I wasn't sure. No probs, just let me know if it needs editing in the future :D

[Judithe, Soap Operas never end....]

Sounds great!

[Josie]

Thanks for the info Nikita! That is crazy though, no wonder there is so much spamming on the lists. Perhaps that should be a suggestion for Feedback - give control to the creators.

Sandra wrote: "Ah well, I wasn't sure. No probs, just let me know if it needs editing in the future :D"

Thanks, Sandra! The power you wield! :P

Judithe wrote: "Sounds great!"

:) Well, I'm thinking the YA one will become a mess in no time!

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Josie wrote: "I'll do the YA one then..."

Since I want to discover other UF series I don't mind trying that one. I don't think that the Stand Alone list is very long so it should be easy.

I'll start from the BEST OF: list with only first books in the list. Are we aiming for a limited number? 100? 200?

Lol, I've voted on lists before but never made one of my own. Should be easy.

[Josie]

Okay here's the SOS BEST OF: Paranormal Romance Series

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Now for the SOS BEST OF: Urban Fantasy Series

[D.G.]

Josie - Becoming a librarian is not that difficult. I think the only requirement (at least when I did it) was to have been a member for 3 months and maybe have 50 books in your TBR or To read shelf (don't remember the details.)

And you just do what you can, it's not a job, LOL!

[Steph, Serious series addict]

Cool! Thanks for creating and working on those lists, Josie & Val. :D Best of luck w/'um. Hopefully it won't become a headache for ya.

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Lol, i tried to not included the obvious YA series with the UF listopia but sometimes I wonder.

[Steph, Serious series addict]

;)

Thanks for adding a link to our group within the list description! :D

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Steph wrote: ";)

Thanks for adding a link to our group within the list description! :D"

Josie had a good idea. More possible SOS followers from the listopia....maybe you could add the link to the listopia to the SOS threads. :)

[Josie]

Thanks DG, I'm sure Sandra would be glad since I bug her so much LOL! It does have a question on why you want to be one, I don't know how they'll accept BECAUSE I WANT POWER as an answer :P

Yeah Val, I'm glad, I'm not putting any YA on the list either!

You're welcome Steph, the mods and group were responsible for them in the first place :)

[Steph, Serious series addict]

I will definitely be adding a link to the listopia lists on each of the BEST OF threads. :)

[Steph, Serious series addict]

Josie wrote: "Thanks DG, I'm sure Sandra would be glad since I bug her so much LOL! It does have a question on why you want to be one, I don't know how they'll accept BECAUSE I WANT POWER as an answer :P"

LMAO! It'd be funny to see what would happen if you put that as your response. I'm sure they'd get a good laugh and probably grant you the power and help with your first step toward taking over the world. Bwahahahaha >;)

[Josie]

LOL! You know what, I'm going to put that and see if I get accepted!
*mutters* I don't know how she knew about that world-take-over plan...

Also, hope you don't mind I used your definition of PNR, it just seemed the best and cba to reword (this is what comes from being a uni).

[Sandra, Kindle Operator Licence Required]

Well, if you do want to be one, DON'T put that. The PTB are very particular and they wouldn't be amused, at least not so we'd know. LOL

In actual fact the way to be accepted is to have a good reason why you want to be a librarian. Tell them you don't want to keep msging me and you'd like to tidy up your books etc etc. The reason is the most important thing to get accepted, along with having 50 books on your shelves.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Also on the listopias -- librarians can check for duplicates. So if one book has 12 different covers/editions (paperback, ebook, hardcover, audio...) added tying up 12 slots on the list ... a librarian can check for duplicate editions of a work to collapse to just one entry without losing votes.

(I think, I never dealt much with listopias in my pre-amazon-purchase-librarian days.)

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Also on applying to be a librarian - you only hear back when accepted. Sometimes means they just dodn't need more librarians at this time so your application could be pending versus turned down. Librarians are never "assigned" work or required to do a certain number of things. You either just correct typos and errors as you personally run across, respond to requests in librarians group, or have some genre or collection of your own you feel expert enough to keep accurate and up to date.

You are required to memorize the librarian manual (or at least look up a policy before changing existing book/author/series data) at http://www.goodreads.com/librarian_ma... -- and can get librarian status revoked for going against policies.

example of going against policies would be deleting or overwriting existing book covers just because an ebook author updated the book cover on bookseller sites without getting a new isbn/asin (goodreads is book database/catalogue/library of all book editions and not a bookseller concerned with making sure only the currently for sale edition shows and let's members shelve the edition of a book they want/own without anyone changing the bookcover on a member shelves just because out of print or no longer for sale; new cover = new edition that in no way messes with member book catalogs).

One thing I do not miss about being a librarian is pm's from authors who posted unsuccessfully in librarians group (asking for bookcover change, to vandalize book description synopsis with promotional links and review quotes, etc.) and got turned down so started messaging goodreads librarians requesting. Usually without even bothering to delete the staff-said-no post in librarians group.

Just a tiny pet peeve to give any newly accepted librarians a heads up -- if author pm's you out of the blue for help -- check their recent group posts where goodreads staff members or other librarians may already have said "no" and explained policies.

Mostly any changes you make against policy just get revoked when discovered and one or more librarians will contact you explaining what happened and linking to policy in the manual. Any questions about an edit, before or after, can just ask in librarians group and someone will explain. No one expects a brand new volunteer to know everything; but, librarian status can get revoked...

[Josie]

Thank you for the info, Debbie and Sandra. Much appreciated :)

Here is the SOS BEST OF: Young Adult Fantasy Series

[D.G.]

Can we add books to the lists?

[Sandra, Kindle Operator Licence Required]

Absolutely D.G ;) Just keep it to the first in the series.

[Steph, Serious series addict]

Sandra wrote: "Well, if you do want to be one, DON'T put that. The PTB are very particular and they wouldn't be amused, at least not so we'd know. LOL"

Oops, my bad, Josie! Thanks for clarifying, Sandra. My wicked side got the best of me for a min. It's under control now. ... now to decide --- help or hinder Josie's attempts to take over the world ... Bwahahaha >;)

Josie wrote: "Thank you for the info, Debbie and Sandra. Much appreciated :)

Here is the SOS BEST OF: Young Adult Fantasy Series"

Thanks! I'll get those links added this week. :D

[Josie]

LOL! Help Steph, help my plans! :P
It's fine I haven't applied yet, I might if the lists begin to regress.

No problem, no need to rush :)

[Steph, Serious series addict]

:D You got it!


ETA: Links to the Listopia lists created by Josie & Val have been added to the BEST OF threads :D

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Josie wrote: "... if the lists begin to regress...."

Can always ask for edits in librarians group when needed.

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

Totally forgot that I was supposed to do this... here is
SOS BEST OF: Stand Alone Novels (PNR/UF/YA genres). Better late than never.

[Steph, Serious series addict]

No worries :) Link add to the list page too.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ wrote: "Totally forgot that I was supposed to do this... here is
SOS BEST OF: Stand Alone Novels (PNR/UF/YA genres). Better late than never."

Just curious, but is #6 Daughter of the Flames standalone? It shows as being in a series. (Shields Lady and Crystal Flame also, I have not read Daughter one but Shields/Crystal are definitely part of a series although not necessary to read one to be able to follow the other).

The Host - that one I am positive is first in series with distinct reading order. Lots of books listed as standalone seem to have series info.

[Valerie ~ Val Hall ~]

I'll do my homework and double check Debbie.
Made some adjustments to the list....it has diminished in size.

[Sandra, Kindle Operator Licence Required]

Well, I'd say Shields Lady & Crystal Flame aren't really a series in this context. Sorta the same world, but no intersecting characters or plots. I think it was just that they were written about the same time and have the same feel.

[Steph, Serious series addict]

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