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I hate anyone who hates Bob Dylan
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Emma
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Jun 05, 2008 12:56PM
You, my friends, are the LOWEST OF THE LOW!
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Lowest of the low, I will repeat, Lowest of the low. He's a genius!
Not Bill said Dylan's music is so awesome it makes me turn into a nasally punk-ass bitch.
There. Much better.
There. Much better.
Yes, in fact in turns everyone into a nasally punk ass bitch.
I can think of no other musician more over-rated than Bob Dylan. Seriously, why should I care about him?
Because he only revolutionized music as we know it, that's all.
psht! someone else would have done it. plus they would have sounded better and been less pompous while doing it.
Dylan was a smart ass, but he was also a genius who had no patience for stupid questions from journalists. I wouldn't describe him as pompous.The point of Dylan is not his voice, but his lyrics, the fact that he was writing his own songs instead of doing folk standards, and his mixing of musical styles. He broke us free from formula and smashed all the rules for everyone who came after him.
He took a lot of flack for going electric, but he just kept doing what he wanted to do. He's reinvented himself more than Madonna, and is still producing incredible music.
And he did it all without ever busting a move.
The thing is, I can appreciate Dylan's rather significant role in cultural history. It's just that I have no appreciation for him personally, his music, his lyrics, or his followers.Though I would have loved to have seen his performance at the Newport Folk Festival. That many folk fan's heads exploding all at once, that's a sight I would not want to miss.
And you should always bust a move.
The thing is, I can appreciate Dylan's rather significant role in cultural history. It's just that I have no appreciation for him personally, his music, his lyrics, or his followers.I can agree with that, Logan. I didn't always care for Dylan, myself, and wondered what all the fuss was about.
And after plowing through a lot of Dylan, I discovered there was a lot of stuff I really liked, and more of it is what he's done in the past decade than early stuff. The documentary by Scorsese on Dylan's early days is worth watching, too, for the historical context.
Who's Robert Allen Zimmerman?
KIDDING!
KIDDING!
haha. Bob may be considered a asswhole (I went to his conecert, didn't say a freaking word), but he changed the face of music and his lyrics are pure genius.
Hmm, asswhole may actually work...
Dylan's fascinating, but not necessarily easily accessible at first listen.Emma, instead of hating them, how 'bout we just pity them for not knowing what they're missing?
I went to the University of Minnesota, and used to walk by streetcorners in Dinkytown where he busked for spare change. One of his peers still busks there, tells apocryphal Dylan stories. (Positively) 4th Street runs right through campus. (All Along) The Watchtower (actually a cool old brick watertower with a pointy-witch-hat top) is just half a mile away.
Did you meet a (Mr.) Tambourine Man or anyone named (The Mighty) Quinn?
Shatner's version of anything kicks some serious ass over anyone's version of anything
I bask in the glow of you Shatnerliness.
Okay, maybe not God, but a minor deity in self-deprecating humor...
Okay, I like your perspective Lisa! I'll take it.
I agree, Donna. GoodRead's search engine leaves a lot to be desired. It would be nice if the best match came to the top.Also, I'd like to be able to search by exact title, or exact author, not just a key word search.
I hate to sound repetitive but who......nevermind.
Now I'm curious. Who did you want to ask about, Carlie?
Maybe she's going to ask about Terry Pratchett, the author of Small Gods, which she should if she doesn't know him. Because Pratchett's books are hilarious.
The Star Trek heads in jar episode of Futurama was on a few nights ago.It brought me back to the George Takei comments in the Not Bo Diddley thread, I'll concur here, George Takei is fucking awesome.
And yes, everyone go find a copy of Transformed Man. It is perpetually in my crate(s) of albums I have right by the record player so I don't have to hunt for it.
sheepishly answers Jackie......who is Dylan?
Oh, Carlie...How young are you, Carlie? Do you know what ABBA is? Does your mother know? :D
Bob Dylan is a major person of importance in American music. Like, THE most major. Even if you don't even up liking him, you should become familiar with who he is.
From Wikipedia:
Bob Dylan (born Robert Allen Zimmerman May 24, 1941) is an American singer-songwriter, author, musician, and a poet who has been a major figure in popular music for five decades. Much of Dylan's most celebrated work dates from the 1960s, when he became an informal chronicler and a reluctant figurehead of American unrest.
A number of his songs, such as "Blowin' in the Wind" and "The Times They Are a-Changin'",[1] became anthems of the anti-war and civil rights movements. His most recent studio album, Modern Times, released on August 29, 2006, entered the U.S. album chart at number one, and that same year was named Album of the Year by Rolling Stone magazine.[2]
Dylan's early lyrics incorporated politics, social commentary, philosophy and literary influences, defying existing pop music conventions and appealing widely to the counterculture.
While expanding and personalizing musical styles, he has shown steadfast devotion to many traditions of American song, from folk and country/blues to gospel, rock and roll and rockabilly, to English, Scottish and Irish folk music, and even jazz and swing.[3][4]
Dylan performs with the guitar, keyboard and harmonica. Backed by a changing lineup of musicians, he has toured steadily since the late 1980s on what has been dubbed the "Never Ending Tour". Although his accomplishments as performer and recording artist have been central to his career, his songwriting is generally regarded as his greatest contribution.[5]
You can read the rest of the article by clicking here:
Bob Dylan
Some of Dylan's most well-known songs are:
Blowin' in the Wind
Like a Rolling Stone
All Along the Watchtower
Tangled Up in Blue
Yeah! Lack of knowledge is power!I'm not all that powerful, so I'll bow down to Jackie for her research, and also add that Dylan was one of the first popular figures to fuse folk and rock, and his transition to electric guitar was incredibly controversial and garnered him some serious hate among his folk peers. However, he is considered to have blazed a trail. Some would consider it a trail that should have been left unblazed (Jack Johnson, anyone? Ugh.)
Oh, and that though it's a second-tier Dylan song, popularity-wise, Don't Think Twice, It's Alright will always be my favorite.
I've heard like a rolling stone, sounds old and in much need of remastering or rerecording. On FM, it sounds like I'm listening to AM radio. And yes, I know and LOVE Abba. But only because their "chiquitita" was used in my Kindergarten graduation. I didn't buy their album until about 6-8 yrs ago.and Jackie, I'm probably older than you. I am a first generation american, was raised elsewhere, and am not familiar with all of your "classics" nor your "most influential" old folks. I probably know the songs, from my extensive tv watching, radio listening and my inability to forget a song (even if I only heard it once or hate it). But unless the music moved me, I don't research the artist, nor the title. So please don't mistake my apparently "silly" questions for youth. I didn't even want to ask.
and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no my mother does not know Dylan....she knows Julio though.
Anyone else get visceral reactions to their parents' favorite music? Listening to Julio makes me feel like I'm a baby again being breastfed by my mother, or like freshly baked cookies with a tall glass of cold milk. Listening to "guantanamera" makes me feel like dancing with my father with my feet on top of his feet and my arms around his knees. Ok, I'm gonna go cry now.
Oh, Carlie, Carlie, Carlie...for shame.
It's gonna be alright. March down to your local library and ask your librarian if they've got some Dylan, preferably from 1963-1966. Take your time to listen to his work, and you'll be surprised.
Yes, he's also on iTunes.
I think we should all contribute to Carlie's musical education. Each one of us should make a mix CD, along with some liner notes, and send one along to Carlie. I suspect she does want to know these things, so we ought to help the woman out, no?
It's gonna be alright. March down to your local library and ask your librarian if they've got some Dylan, preferably from 1963-1966. Take your time to listen to his work, and you'll be surprised.
Yes, he's also on iTunes.
I think we should all contribute to Carlie's musical education. Each one of us should make a mix CD, along with some liner notes, and send one along to Carlie. I suspect she does want to know these things, so we ought to help the woman out, no?
Actually, I grew up listening to Julio Iglesias. I still love listening to him.
Enrique Iglesias, on the other hand...ugh.
Enrique Iglesias, on the other hand...ugh.
My parents had, and still have, reasonably good taste in music.Through them I was introduced to Love, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, John Fahey, Woody Guthrie, Miles Davis, Muddy Waters, Leadbelly, Edith Piaf and many others.
They also had the standard Who, Stones, Beatles, Janis and Cream records that many sixties generation moms and dads did.
WIth my mom it will always be Joni Mitchell's "Case of You" and with my dad Arlo Guthrie's "City of New Orleans", both of which can make me feel blissfully at home or reduce me to tears depending on my mood.
Carlie: I am a first generation american, was raised elsewhere, and am not familiar with all of your "classics" nor your "most influential" old folks. That explains it! Carlie, I'm sure you know tons of stuff that none of us have ever heard of. I apologize for assuming you were a kid.
I have songs from my childhood that take me right back, too. There is no other reason for listening to the Carpenters, believe me...
Wow! That would be freakin AWESOME to get a THC CD. If y'all really mean that, just send me the mp3s. Anyone know a site for free storage? I could make an account, call it THC, and we all can have the password and store mp3s in there of music we think everyone should listen to. So we can all access them. Or just for me so I can make a THC compilation.And Gus, Enrique is really good too. But you have to listen to his early spanish stuff before he got hot in the us. I really like cosas del amor and vivir. Do you speak spanish? Cause I dont think you can get the same feeling if you dont understand what hes singing about. Seriously, there's this one song called "no llores por mi" which is about him cheating on his girlfriend and leaving her for the other woman. Now, I know this sounds awful, but in espanol, it just makes me want to die and I feel more sorry for the cheater than the gf.
here are the lyrics:
Hay una cosa que
te tengo que decir
Mientra estabas lejos
Otra estuvo aqui
Todo paso tan rapido
Que ni cuenta me di
Que cai en tus brazos
Y de ahi no me fui
No te puedo mentir
La quiero demasiado
Dificil esconder lo
que me hace sentir
Y con estas palabras
Yo me voy de aqui
No llores por mi
Deja que me vaja
Sin verte sufrir
Sin verte surfir
No llores por mi
Otro encontraras
Que te haga feliz
Que to haga feliz
If this song can get this cheater hating "no he didn't", castrate the bastard girl to actually want to give the cheater a hug and say everthing's gonna be ok, believe me, there's some magic voodoo in his songs, singing, or persona.
He is the first male singer I've actually bought a pair of thong underwear for to write my number in the crotch and throw onstage at one of his concerts.
I don't like Enrique because in comparison to his father, he comes across like a limp competitor. And, yes, I speak Spanish and prefer Julio in Spanish - his English recordings are garbage.
Sarah, you just burst open a floodgate of memories for me with your reference to The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. That song haunted me when I was a kid.
Sarah, you just burst open a floodgate of memories for me with your reference to The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. That song haunted me when I was a kid.
I hate that all the music that Tesse's parents listened to is my generation! Haha. It shows my age.City of New Orleans will always give me the chills.
And yeah, I saw Gordon Lightfoot in concert.
If it is any consolation, my folks are older than you!Lovely pooch by the way, shepherds are great dogs.
"shepherds are great dogs"
And undoubtedly more capable of carrying a tune than that overrated, overwrought, hack Bob Dylan.
And undoubtedly more capable of carrying a tune than that overrated, overwrought, hack Bob Dylan.
Zing!That's it, Steve?
You show up so rarely and this is what you leave us with?
Actually, Dylan is sounding much better now that he's completely lost his voice. I love the whiskey-soaked gravelly thing he's doing now.
Tom Waits has been doing it better for years.I'm with Steve.
I am not familiar enough with Tom Waits' work to comment.Wait, why am I commenting???
Nevermind...
Jackie, Waits is the absolute master at it. Then, that doesn't mean that what Dylan's doing nowadays is bad. It's just hard to be compared to a master. I do like the whiskey soaked inflection, regardless of artist, and there's been many. So Jackie, please do avail yourself of some of the Waits genius. Some good SNL stuff too.
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