Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
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Does anyone else besides me hate Harry Potter?
I don't hate it, I just lost interest in it part way through the 4th book. Just not what I'm interested in, and I don't see why all of you people need to hate on people just because they don't like it. Big deal, not everyone has the same interests. Just saying you don't like the story line doesn't imply the writing is bad or anything, so I don't see why you're so offended over a book series.
Leah wrote: "I don't hate it, I just lost interest in it part way through the 4th book."Same here except it was after book 2 for me. I've just never really cared to get the 3rd book and continue.
Kayla wrote: "The stupid book has no point at all! Only complete idiots would read Harry Potter!"really???????!!!!!!!!!! wow.........
Nava Cullen wrote: "You're calling a lot of people idiots, and you are the only one who hates Harry Potter."
i have to say that I completely agree... you are the only one who hates Harry potter
Yumn♣ wrote: "Meh wrote: "I thought the Dursleys were funny...what does that say about me?"i also thought they were a bit laughable and ridiculous. thinking of their horrified reactions for every little change..."
That's essentially a microcosm or metaphor, however you view it, for people in general. Most people loathe change, so you could argue that their reaction to that is poking fun at people who are obsessed with keeping things the same.
Will wrote: "Leah wrote: "I don't hate it, I just lost interest in it part way through the 4th book."Same here except it was after book 2 for me. I've just never really cared to get the 3rd book and continue."
you havn't finished the series...
(*Kenna Bear*) wrote: "Will wrote: "Excuse me, but the Bible is full of rape and murder, often carried out under the instruction of God, it instructs parents to stone their children to death if they don't obey (read Deut..."Adam and Eve definitely had a lot of stuff goin' on in that Garden of Eden. Genesis. But that's okay because people believe in whatever and that's fine GOODBYE.
Celeste wrote: "i agree, book has no point. THank you to the people that think harry potter is a gay fag."You know what, that is offensive and homophobic and completely disgusting. If you say that, you are a horrible, prejudice person and you shouldn't have any right to say anything on this site. Please apologize and stop saying that.
(*Kenna Bear*) wrote: "Nora wrote: "Who agrees?!"
I do!"
Cool!
I do!"
Cool!
Happy bundle of sticks....that just made me giggle for some reason. Also a fag is a type of Oboe too...so really the words used for human are incorrect...so I don't even see why we use those words to define a human anyways. Okay...and she rated it 5 stars and still said that about the book...major oxymoron right there.
Well then...that was a little rude, and off put.
OMG you are sooo immature.. Now you decided to change your rating for the book.. and not only that, who starts to insult people by saying "fag", "idiot", whatever? Please grow up, how old r u anyway?
Celeste wrote: "I do think he's a gay fag-it,that is my opinion about this book.I will not apoligize for it so f*** off.
For people that think i should, I think you judgmental people that have NO LIFE!
get one..."
When did I ever ask you or anyone else to apologize for your opinion? You can hate a book. Sure. It can even be for stupid reasons, that's the whole purpose of an opinion. We'd rather you apologize for being a judgmental homophobic idiot. And I still find it funny that you say I have no life, when we're on the same site, having the same discussion, doing the exact same thing with our free time. By that, we both have no lives.
Not really, people are trying to tell me what i should think,this is MY opinion about this book, i will not apoligize for that.people think its wrong that i think he's a fag, it's not wrong,!I would like to say to ruby, quit being a brat about think, pls.
Celeste wrote: "Not really, people are trying to tell me what i should think,this is MY opinion about this book, i will not apoligize for that.People like that seens i think he's a fag, it's wrong,
its not!I w..."
I couldn't even read that second half. Why do I even bother? Good day to you...is that a dog? I'll just say sir for the sake of avoiding any other discussion.
You have no life.... you have no life.
Celeste wrote: "You have no life.... you have no life."Grow up please...yes an opinion is your's personally, but an opinion using words like that isn't respected, especially not how I was raised it wasn't. It's rude, and inconsiderate to use degrading words such as fag to state an opinion when there are better words to describe it. I'm sorry, and saying that someone has no life is kind of rude in itself. I'm pretty sure James has as much of a life as anyone else on here does.
still, i have freedom of speech here, and anyone else dose to!
Celeste wrote: "I wasn't talking to u people, i was saying it to ruby, she said i should apoligize for saying harry potter is a fag, im just saying to her that i can say whatever i want about my opinion, and nothi..."Okay, but still...it's just something that people find offensive. You can't just slam them for thinking that...since that is their opinion on the subject matter.
Don't feed the troll.
If this is a troll...then it's a poor excuse for one...I do a better job than this one. :P
Natalie wrote: "then it's a poor excuse for one"How? The troll accomplished exactly what trolls are designed to accomplish, to rile up a bunch of people over dumb shit. You fell for it.
Successful troll is successful.
Yes, yes you are. I think my friends up here explained why for me perfectly well, I agree with most of them in the fact that Harry Potter has many points within it, including bravery, self-worth, overcoming obstacles, friendship, loss, believing in yourself, good vs. evil, love, and much more.
Will wrote: "Natalie wrote: "then it's a poor excuse for one"How? The troll accomplished exactly what trolls are designed to accomplish, to rile up a bunch of people over dumb shit. You fell for it.
Successf..."
Yeah I know...but I've seen worse. I just like a good argument once in a while...and I get the best ones from trolls. It's all just something I do to pass the time.
Celeste wrote: "Not really, people are trying to tell me what i should think,this is MY opinion about this book, i will not apoligize for that.people think its wrong that i think he's a fag, it's not wrong,!I ..."
Oh my god, I'm not being a brat. I am 11 years old, and I want to say that the term "fag" describing a children's series is stupid and irrelevant, and it's a really disgusting word. If you wanna be homophobic, fine. But it's stupid and ridiculous.
James wrote: "Celeste wrote: "I wasn't talking to u people, i was saying it to ruby, she said i should apoligize for saying harry potter is a fag, im just saying to her that i can say whatever i want about my op..."Thank you so much.
Celeste wrote: "I do think he's a gay fag-it,that is my opinion about this book.I will not apoligize for it so f*** off.
For people that think i should, I think you judgmental people that have NO LIFE!
get one..."
Judgmental? What? I'm defending nearly 10% of the world, and I don't care about your opinion about Harry Potter, my best friend hates it. I'm saying that your language lacks intelligence and morality and it is wrong.
Celeste wrote: "I wasn't talking to u people, i was saying it to ruby, she said i should apoligize for saying harry potter is a fag, im just saying to her that i can say whatever i want about my opinion, and nothi..."NO! I don't care about your opinion! I want you to apologize for saying the word "faggot." BECAUSE IT IS RIDICULOUS AND HOMOPHOBIC STOP DENYING IT.
James wrote: "Celeste wrote: "I wasn't talking to u people, i was saying it to ruby, she said i should apoligize for saying harry potter is a fag, im just saying to her that i can say whatever i want about my op..."You are kind of amazing.
Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!
Lily (Misskriss) :) wrote: "Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!"What am I doing that is wrong geez.
the people in this discussion are suddenly becoming rude. if you don't like the book then don't just comment you'll just waste your time posting it and ours for reading it
Madelene wrote: "the people in this discussion are suddenly becoming rude. if you don't like the book then don't just comment you'll just waste your time posting it and ours for reading it"I TOTALLY AGREE.... If you really hate it, then stop talking about it... You don't have to shout it out to the world... ;)
Celeste wrote: "Not really, people are trying to tell me what i should think,this is MY opinion about this book, i will not apoligize for that.people think its wrong that i think he's a fag, it's not wrong,!I ..."
if you think that then that's your opinion but you don't have to turn to offensive words to get your point across... stop being so immature and grow up a little!!!
Tina wrote: "Celeste wrote: "Not really, people are trying to tell me what i should think,this is MY opinion about this book, i will not apoligize for that.people think its wrong that i think he's a fag, it'..."
That's my point, and thank you.
Ahh Celeste was just a rude troll. Reminds me of customers I have at work...rude and inconsiderate of other people's feelings.
I'm seeing a lot of hateful words on both sides of this argument, but I don't think that people who "hate" Harry Potter don't hate the writing style, or the author, or the "good-vs-evil" theme, or whatever else most people are using to defend the books. I think they hate the idea of "witchcraft" and "wizardry" because the Bible- and morality as a whole- tells us to stay away from such things. Most of these people are usually devoutly religious in one form or another, and they believe that any contact with that type of thing is fundamentally wrong. Many of my friends' have banned the HP books, because they claim that it puts a "good front" on evil practices. I myself am religious, and I would never dabble in such things.
That being said, I love Harry Potter! I agree with everyone that's been politely defending the beautiful writing and strong underlying values of Harry Potter. It teaches patience, loyalty, confidence, and the power of strong friendships. It warns about being overly ambitious, carrying things to far, and how hate and love are both dangerous.
I think the way to go about this issue is the way my parents did: wait until your children are old enough (AND mature enough) to take in ideas and refute them. My parents thought that we should wait until we were teens, so we did. This way, we could take in all the values and principles that HP embodies, and enjoy a wonderful, well-written book series, but we could still realize that witchcraft is not a good thing, and that Harry's world is entirely make-believe.
People who dislike HP talk about how it's leading to a rise in kids joining cults, but if your child isn't old enough to distinguish between things that are made up and things that are real, things that are fun in books but not in reality, he or she shouldn't be reading Harry Potter! I love HP and will be a fan forever, but there is no way I am ever going to join a cult or becoming a witch.
Just because you read Harry Potter or allow your children to do so, doesn't mean you aren't religious/moral or that you endorse sorcery, it just means you are, and allow your children to be, open-minded.
That's all I have to say.
Quinn wrote: "I think the way to go about this issue is the way my parents did: wait until your children are old enough (AND mature enough) to take in ideas and refute them."I'm wondering if your parents followed the same wise advice when it came to your religion? I'm guessing not.
Lily said "Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!..."Thank you for that....i dont care if you say if im kid, or a brat...because one day you will look back and think, "wow i was a b-otch to that girl", and you will die with that.....it doesnt hurt me....
Celeste wrote: "Lily said "Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!..."Thank you for that....i dont care if you say if im kid, or a brat...because one day you will look back and think, "wow i was a b-otch to that g..."
Actually no I won't....so sorry. I won't die with what I've said implanted in my mind...I normally forget in about a week's time...so no...sorry again. :P
gotta ask what can you possibly pray fourteen times a day for?
Everyone's done it, heard of a book and disliked it without really reading it. That's fine, but if you're going to go on a website where everyone is an avid reader and has probably read the book you're talking about that's not very smart. Especially when most of the people on the site are "idiot" Harry Potter fans. A lot more people are HP fans than not. Just talk to the like 2 billion people who crashed Pottermore and hold conventions and broke movie records by seeing DH Prt.2. The facts are there, hon. Potter fans might be "idiots" in your opinion, but we are the majority.
Harry Potter is amazing and anyone who says otherwise must not have even attempted to read the infamous works of J. K. Rowling. I admit, I used to be a Twilight fan, but it was never better than Harry Potter. Harry Potter is, and always will be, the best book/film series in the universe. Have you met every single Harry Potter fan? Do you even know how smart I, like so many other are who are Harry Potter fans? You have no right to say that "only idiots read Harry Potter" because we are not idiots.
Kimber~!! wrote: "Celeste wrote: "Lily said "Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!..."Thank you for that....i dont care if you say if im kid, or a brat...because one day you will look back and think, "wow i was a ..."
I was, or Celeste was? I really was not intending to hurt anyone's feelings. I just wanted her to stop saying offensive words like "faggot." Honestly, I don't care that she hates Harry Potter. I really don't mind. But I was just telling her to not say the word "fag" because it's homophobic and offensive. Please don't yell at me, because I really did nothing wrong.
Ruby wrote: "Kimber~!! wrote: "Celeste wrote: "Lily said "Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!..."
Thank you for that....i dont care if you say if im kid, or a brat...because one day you will look back and thin..."
I agree. And I can't believe that I just read all that to find interessting Harry Potter stuff. All I get IS SILLY PEOPLE HAVEING A SILLY ARGUEMENT! honestly Life's not about winning, just walk away. Both of you.
Thank you for that....i dont care if you say if im kid, or a brat...because one day you will look back and thin..."
I agree. And I can't believe that I just read all that to find interessting Harry Potter stuff. All I get IS SILLY PEOPLE HAVEING A SILLY ARGUEMENT! honestly Life's not about winning, just walk away. Both of you.
Georgia wrote: "Ruby wrote: "Kimber~!! wrote: "Celeste wrote: "Lily said "Ruby shut the f**k up!!! *&$%@#!!!!..."Thank you for that....i dont care if you say if im kid, or a brat...because one day you will loo..."
Okay. Thanks.
Honestly if people would actually be smart...fag is a type of instrument, bundle of sticks and a cigar. So honestly us humans are dumb enough to even use that word as a degraded one to groups of people or an insult. The word itself is not suppose to be used an insult. Every time I hear someone say fag I facepalm...it's a damn instrument that looks like an oboe. And if more people knew and followed about the "life's not about winning" aspect we wouldn't have such an interesting world.
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Well said sir! (minus the cursing).