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message 1: by Barbara (last edited May 30, 2010 05:18PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Werner and Peggy , re wet and dry. Now that is interesting . Here the wet/dry has nothing do to with alchohol (Prohibition could never have happened here , Australians considering beer their birthright more or less)
Wet/dry just connote degres of conservatism, wet, of course being less so than dry .


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Cassie (cassiepetty) | 185 comments This is a different off-topic item.

I joined a book exchange site and didn't like it. I had a bad experience after I sent a book to someone and I also don't like having to go to the Post Office. I like the Goodreads site because you can print out the postage out at your desk. Has anyone tried Paperbackswap?


message 3: by Werner (new)

Werner Cassie, I've never tried PaperBackSwap (I'm with Book Mooch myself, and like it pretty well, though it has its limitations). But my Goodreads friend Jim belongs to both, and likes PaperBackSwap better.


message 4: by Cassie (new)

Cassie (cassiepetty) | 185 comments I have a really hard time making it to the post office. I like that you can print the postage with paperbackswap and goodreads.


message 5: by Werner (new)

Werner I have a bit of an advantage there, because the college I work for has its own mailroom, in the building just across the Quad from the library, and I normally go over there every day anyway to pick up or send out the library's mail. They have a mail scale and postage meter, and they don't mind if I mail personal packages from there as long as I pay for them myself.


message 6: by Cassie (new)

Cassie (cassiepetty) | 185 comments We carpool to work and my husband keeps the car so I can't make it to the PO during the day. After work it's crazy trying to pick up the kids and get them fed all in the two hours between work and bedtime. We have a mailroom up at the municipal bldg but I can't pay them back for postage.


message 7: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments oh, how lovely. I can picture it. A good location for some of NL's characters.


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

Glad you enjoyed it Sallie. I used to walk into Wickham Market in Suffolk from our house on the Tank Road. I crossed a stream there too and in spring there were thousand of daffodils which made me think of that poem about them. I walked along with my two little English Shelties. Once we cut across a field for a short cut and came across a pheassant sitting on her eggs. I told the game keeper and he went to collect the eggs for incubation. It made me think of the pheasants that were given to Shelmadine's wife in India. I think htey were golden pheasants. (Afternoon of an Autocrat) In Wickham Market I would tie up my dogs to go into the store there. Everyone was so friendly and it was safe to tie up your dog. I took them into the post office with me which was fine there but mostly not allowed here. Everyone inour little village is usually walking their dog here too tho. Afternoon of an Autocrat


message 9: by Barbara (last edited Feb 01, 2014 05:08PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Werner and Alice and Rita (and anyone else, but I know those three would be partic. interested in the Christian elements)

Have any or all of you seen the 1960 B&W British film Whistle Down the Wind ? If not , and you can get it on DVD , I think you would love it.


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I haven't seen it but next time I am in Blockbuster I will look for it, thanks.


message 11: by MaryC (new)

MaryC Clawsey | 712 comments Alice, your encounter with the game keeper about the pheasants reminded me of a very different book that has in common with NL only that it's set in the English countryside--the Midlands, I think. Don't get too friendly with game keepers! Your husband wouldn't approve!


message 12: by MaryC (last edited Jun 07, 2010 06:57AM) (new)

MaryC Clawsey | 712 comments Well, I suppose Oliver Mellors WOULD be pretty old by now! :)


message 13: by Werner (new)

Werner Barbara, I've never watched Whistle Down the Wind, nor even heard of it until now; but thanks for the tip! I'll keep that title in mind. Is it based on something that Lofts wrote?


message 14: by Barbara (last edited Jun 18, 2016 01:34AM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Hi Werner , no nothing to do with NL. It is a film, mid 60's I think and stars Hayley Mills, then about 13. I believe her mother actually wrote it. It is set and filmed entirely in Lancashire and centres around Hayley's character mistaking a vagrant man for Jesus .That sounds banal but the film is anything but and it is really about faith and non-faith and enchantment and disenchantment etc. I think it an absolute gem. I can still cry over certain scenes.
Here is a link, but 'ware spoilers

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055618/


message 15: by Werner (new)

Werner Thanks, Barbara! I'll keep an eye out for it in any venues where Barb and I buy or rent videos.


message 16: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments I looked on Amazon - priaces from cheap to 70 bucks. Bad news - only region 2 format which means UK and Eurpoe. Poor us.


message 17: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Well, I am sorry to hear WDTW is not available,Sorry to have raised hopes !


message 18: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments All is not lost - found one on the net which promises it will play in US & Canada so I ordered it. Was $28 but I do't know if this is a bargain or a pig-in-a-poke. Will let you know when I try to play it. Was a VCR not a DVD and the pic looked like the case was a little ragged. But then it IS 1960 something.


message 19: by Barbara (last edited Jun 18, 2016 01:35AM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Sallie, I do hope you like it after all your trouble. And $28 too! I think you will, it is so honest and touching and heartfelt. Not soppy at all in any way however and the location is bleak Lancashire
All the child actors are wonderful, I hope their accents are intelligible to US viewers( the location is near where I come from so I didn't even realise they HAD accents until I moved away from the region)


message 20: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments LOL. People say the same thing about southern accents here, Barbara. I always thought Hayley Mills - really the whole Mills family - was a very talented actress, even at a very young age. Loved Chalk Garden.


message 21: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments And, Sallie, didn't someone say ( from Down South) that Carter was the first president they'd ever had who didn't have an accent?


message 22: by Rita (new)

Rita | 61 comments I disagree with you, Barbara; LBJ was the first president we had who did not have an accent. As the late Lewis Grizzard put it: God talks like we talk.
So that's the last word.


message 23: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments LOL! Aren't accents great things? How about JFK? And Eisenhower from the midwest? Luckily we've had no pres from Brooklyn or the Bronx!


message 24: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments Does Scarlett O'Hara count? Loved Vivian Leigh.


message 25: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Did you Southerners think Vivian Leigh ( of blessed memory , don't get me wrong!) did a good Georgian accent?


message 26: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments Guess what just arrived from ebay!! "Whistle Down the Wind." It came from a LA manufacturer so I guess it will play in the US. Can't wait to see it. Do I need lots of hankies? Wine? COVER YOUR EYES, Werner.... Is it against the copyright laws to copy this from 1961? If not, I would be glad to make a DVD from it for anyone that would like one. And even if it is...you could just keep me up to date on NL in my jail cell.


message 27: by Werner (new)

Werner Well, Sallie, the prison library in Leavenworth should have Internet access, so you'll be able to stay active on Goodreads. :-) But my guess is that if the video's producer is no longer selling it, and has no plans to again, it would be much the same as an out-of-print book --the copyright holder has no current "commercial interest" to protect. (Don't quote me on that, though --I'm not a lawyer!)


message 28: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments LOL! I wonder if I will look fetching in prison gray! Finding this VHS format was a fluke - most used copies on the net will not play in the US. None for sale by the producers - it was made literally 50 years ago and the few copies I found for sale will only play UK and Aust. So, dear NL, off topic friends, my offer of a copy stands and we will make it dear husb Mikey's problem to figure out how to transfer it on his little machine. And, since none of OUR fingerprints will be in evidence on the discs, we can send him files in baked goods in Leavenworth?
PS - Werner, have 2 lawyers in the family so maybe they'll come to the aid of old Gammie. Pro bono if they want to remain in the will....... :-)


message 29: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Oh Sallie, I do hope you will enjoy.

Minor Spoiler


Hanky necessary for the Jesus and kitten scene I fear .


message 30: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments B, I consider myself warned.


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Barbara wrote: "Did you Southerners think Vivian Leigh ( of blessed memory , don't get me wrong!) did a good Georgian accent?"

No, I never did and my mother definitely did not. Our ancestors moved from GA to AL then to MS and some then on to TX.


message 32: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments When I was immersed in GWTW I was about 16 and I lived in New York, so of course, she sounded legit to me.


message 33: by Barbara (last edited Jun 16, 2010 05:50PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments And I was so in love with them all that I hardly noticed teh variation between accents at all ( plus I'm English anyway) Years later when I watched it again I thought , ahem......


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

Mom always loved Scarlett and wanted to be just like her! Long ago she would sneak in from picking cotton and hide so she could read it.


message 35: by Barbara (last edited Jun 18, 2010 10:28PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Re getting local history it wrong and family legends etc Rita said
" a story in my own family: in the days of bare-knuckled fighting and before the Marquis of Queensbury, this really poor Irish ancestor of mine was handy with his fists, and a wealthy English guy sponsored him to come to America and fight, and he stayed. Great story. Only thing wrong with it is it is not true"

Love your story Rita - less exciting but just as wrong in my family was a legend that my birth broke a run of eight male first borns, called George. I had always accepted this without much thought and maybe even a touch of guilt . My father and his father were both male first borns called George after all . So when I started to do some genealogy as an adult I woke up to the fact that 8 generations is actually a hell of a long time, some 200 years at least. And nobody in the family really had a clue about who their great grandparent were, let alone 200 year old birth order and names .

Yes there were a lot of Georges but the longest run of them ( the one that I broke ) was a miserable three. Hah !


message 36: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments I was named after crazy Aunt Sallie - the family eccentric (ok-confession, one of probably many). Lots of Sallie's in the family centuries back named for her....then we find out her name was really Sarah, just was always called Sallie. Upset me because what if somebody royal wanted me - Queen Sallie just doesn't quite make it.


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We have some strange stories too. I was named for my great grandmother Alice McCraw. She was born in Alabama and her mother and hubby went to the White River in Arkansas where he and several children died of yellow fever. So then she took the buggy all the way back to Alabama. Can you imagine? Almost no roads and traveling in a buggy.

On the other side I have a great grandmother Delilah who who was on the train when Jesse James robbed it. Her father was a preacher so why did he name his daughter Delilah???

Last night we had a golden bear in our front area! We normally have black bears here but this bear was very golden. The poor thing was digging in ant hills. We watched it slowly journey all the way around our house before going back up into the mountains.

Alice


message 38: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments And I thought our friendly, 7 ft black snakes were bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 39: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh, I do not mind snakes at all. My son (now pictured) once kept one for a pet and I had to feed it for him. That was truly horrible! In NM I once got out of my vehicle in order to "chunk" a rattler that was in the middle of the dirt road as I didn't want to run over it. Oddly enough the thing that makes my skin crawl is grasshoppers!! I cannot bear them.
The little village of Green Mountain Falls is notorious for its many bears. (27 tagged) I am very careful when I go outside. They have never bothered our dogs or us but this year a few have broken into homes. One went thru glass about two weeks ago. That was scary! We also have many mountain lions here but I have never seen one. Its very beautiful here. The air is clean!!!


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

Sallie wrote: "And I thought our friendly, 7 ft black snakes were bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

7 foot is kinda big!!!! WOW! I don't think I have ever seen a snake that big. I guess a King snake about 5 feet was the biggest I have seen.


message 41: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments They really do get that long - but they are non-aggressive and they eat other critters like mice, etc. so we like them. I don't mind them as long as I see them first!! I can even grab one behind his/her head and "relocate" them out in the pasture. Of course, they come right back to the house to get cool on the bricks. NL didn't feature many personal animals in her work - bears, dogs, the sorry plight of most of them.


message 42: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments Sallie, never mind, you can still be chosen as a royal bride - they will just simply rename you Leopoldina or something


message 43: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments LOL! Hope I get a fancy crown - Leopoldina sounds good.


message 44: by Barbara (last edited Jun 21, 2010 12:45AM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 2442 comments HRH Leopoldina -

I'm glad you like it, you might recognise that I I stole it from a Nancy Mitford, Love In A Cold Climate I think.
One of the minor aristocratic characters, known as Polly is actually christened Leopoldina. Someone comments , "hmm, wonder what marriage prospects they had in mind for HER ..'
I think they were referring to the then Prince of Wales, he who went on to become (rather briefly) Edward Vlll, before blotting his copybook with - gasp - an American divorcee............


message 45: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments Too funny. Speaking of Mitford - have you ever read any of Jan Karon's books about a "mythical" town of Mitford in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia? Highly recommend her. Great read and fabulous characters.


message 46: by Werner (new)

Werner Sallie, according to the Gale Literature Resource Center database, Karon's Mitford series is actually set in the mountains of her native North Carolina. (I haven't read any of these books; but the BC library has all of them, and I've had the first one on my to-read shelf forever!)


message 47: by Sallie (new)

Sallie | 315 comments Oh, you are absolutely right, Werner. We count on you so for these things! Karon was a very successful person in her "other life" but always wanted to write. She saved enough to buy a little cabin - near Ashville, I think, - and forged ahead. I got confused because she became REALLY successful writing about the diverse, varied, quirky citizens of Mitford who will become your friedns and she bought a gi-mongus historical farm in Charlottesville, VA. It's about an hour from here. She has taken a break of several years but everyone aticipates her next series - many of the same main characters - which should be coming soon. Can't wait. Please do yourself a favor, Werner, and put that Karon book(s) on the TOP of your to-do pile. Start today! You won't be sorry.


message 48: by Werner (last edited Jun 21, 2010 05:29PM) (new)

Werner Well, Sallie, I'll tell you what --on your suggestion, I'll try to read At Home in Mitford this fall, after one of my Goodreads friends and I finish a buddy read we've planned. (In the meantime, I want to read the sequel to a vampire novel by another Goodreads friend, since I've been promising her for ages that I would, and a collection of Chesterton's Father Brown mysteries.) I should (and want to) read more contemporary general fiction; so this should be a good start! :-) Thanks for the recommendation.


message 49: by Cassie (new)

Cassie (cassiepetty) | 185 comments I got a map from Sylvia last week. I don't think she's feeling well. I haven't checked all the boards but I haven't seen her lately. Keep her in your thoughts.


message 50: by Werner (new)

Werner In about a half hour, my wife and I are leaving for a visit to her side of the family in the Shenandoah Valley area. While we're gone, I won't have much access to the Internet. But we'll get back on Sunday, and I'll plan on catching up then. Meanwhile, you folks have a great week!


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