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message 4451: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Bell | 90 comments Tom wrote: "Hey all, I'm Tom from London and history, especially WW2 history has been a lifelong passion for me. Particularly interested in the German-Russian conflict and UK's overall role. Currently reading ..."

Welcome to this group. Russia is my 'weak area'. Any help would be great.


message 4452: by Perato (last edited Feb 09, 2021 03:57AM) (new)

Perato | 231 comments Graeme wrote: Russia is my 'weak area'. Any help would be great. "
Alexander Hill's for the Red Army (structure, strategy, leadership, equipment etc.)The Red Army and the Second World War
Catherine Merridale's Ivan's War: Life and Death in the Red Army, 1939-1945 for the average Ivan's experience(just reading it)

For overall view of the whole Eastern front four modern books seem to come up quite often:
David Glantz' When Titans Clashed: How the Red Army Stopped Hitler, a classic, not my favorite though
Stephen Fritz' Ostkrieg: Hitler's War of Extermination in the East, more from the German point of view.
Richard Overy's Russia's War: A History of the Soviet Effort: 1941-1945 (unread)
Evan Mawdsley's Thunder in the East: The Nazi-Soviet War, 1941-1945 (unread)

And some older classics with their problems(mainly not having access to Russian sources and having problems with objectivity)
Alan Clarke's Barbarossa (unread)
William Craig's Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad (unread)
Alexander Werth's Russia at War: 1941-1945 (unread)


Also plenty of books about battle's, see:
Antony Beevor
David Stahel
David Glantz
Britt Buttar
Anna Reid
Robert Citino
Vesa Nenye& Munter & Virtanen for Continuation War in English.


message 4453: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Graeme - Perato has offered some excellent suggestions for books covering the Russian Front, also check out this thread for further ideas:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


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Kanishka Sarkar | 6 comments Just finished reading First One In, Last One Out: Auschwitz Survivor 31321 by Marilyn Shimon. Everytime I read one of the books about holocaust I am amazed at two things.
1. How can people be so cruel on fellow human beings to be able to mete out such torture on so many people without any humanity.
2. How so many people found out such inner strength to bear such cruelty and adverse conditions and still survive. Truly amazing.


message 4455: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Bell | 90 comments Gary wrote: "Welcome, Tom! I can recommend the following to keep you busy, should you need more:

Panzer Battles (General-Major FW von Mellenthin), Pen & Sword Books;
A Writer at War (Vasily Grossman), Folio So..."


Me too. I am moving through it like walking through a snowdrift.


message 4456: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Bell | 90 comments Theresa wrote: "Thanks for the warm welcome. My only regret is not having joined the group sooner! Now I just need to enhance my speed reading skills or figure out how to retire early so I can read more!"

Watch your TBR shelf expand like a mushroom cloud. (In Scotland we have the best metaphors).


message 4457: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments Kanishka wrote: "Just finished reading First One In, Last One Out: Auschwitz Survivor 31321 by Marilyn Shimon. Everytime I read one of the books about holocaust I am amazed at two ..."

So well put Kanishka.


message 4458: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments Perato wrote: "Graeme wrote: Russia is my 'weak area'. Any help would be great. "
Alexander Hill's for the Red Army (structure, strategy, leadership, equipment etc.)[book:The Red Army and the Second World War|290..."


Thanks for taking the time and providing this Perato.


message 4459: by Emma (new)

Emma | 14 comments Hello everyone!

My name is Emma. I've long been interested in WWII, especially in what the war did for civil rights and women's rights in the Allied nations. Although I've been interested in WWII for a while, I'm just starting out with really deliberately reading about it.

I look forward to participating in reciprocal learning with you all.

Thanks for having me!


message 4460: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments Hi Emma, welcome to the group. A fascinating area to be interested in. Feel free to chip in and enjoy. Cheers.


message 4461: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2114 comments Welcome to the group Emma, sure you'll be deluged with recommendations in no time.


message 4462: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Emma and welcome to the group. We have a thread on women in WW2 which may interest you:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 4463: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Emma wrote: "Hello everyone!

My name is Emma. I've long been interested in WWII, especially in what the war did for civil rights and women's rights in the Allied nations. Although I've been interested in WWII ..."


Welcome to the group, Emma. I'm sure you will find plenty of recommendations await you!


message 4464: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Emma wrote: "Hello everyone!

My name is Emma. I've long been interested in WWII, especially in what the war did for civil rights and women's rights in the Allied nations. Although I've been interested in WWII ..."


Welcome Emma, very nice to have you join us. There are some great stories in your interest areas. Better prepare your budget and your shelves for all the recs you'll get!


message 4465: by Gary (new)

Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Emma wrote: "Hello everyone!

My name is Emma. I've long been interested in WWII, especially in what the war did for civil rights and women's rights in the Allied nations. Although I've been interested in WWII ..."


Hi Emma

Welcome to the group. I'm sure you will never have enough time for things other than reading once we all begin recommending books to you. :-D

Kind regards
Gary


message 4466: by Tim (new)

Tim | 12 comments Greetings all, I’m Tim in southeastern Florida. I’ve been reading WW2 books for nearly a decade. But the underlying interest started back in grammar school in the 70s watching the bigger than life(at least to me it was) ‘The World at War’ on PBS.


message 4467: by Gary (new)

Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Tim wrote: "Greetings all, I’m Tim in southeastern Florida. I’ve been reading WW2 books for nearly a decade. But the underlying interest started back in grammar school in the 70s watching the bigger than life(..."

Hi Tim, and welcome to the group. Prepare to be deluged with reading suggestions. I have only been in the group for a short while and I have been surprised by just how many good books there are on WWII – it's great (but expensive, lol). Enjoy.


message 4468: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4785 comments Tim wrote: "Greetings all, I’m Tim in southeastern Florida. I’ve been reading WW2 books for nearly a decade. But the underlying interest started back in grammar school in the 70s watching the bigger than life(..."

Welcome, Tim.


message 4469: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Welcome aboard, Tim.


message 4470: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Tim and welcome to the group. I still have "The World at War" series on DVD.


message 4471: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments Welcome Tim.


message 4472: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2114 comments Welcome to the group Tim.


message 4473: by Gary (new)

Gary (folionut) | 213 comments You guys are costing me, lol. I have wanted The World at War series for years but never got around to buying it. Have just ordered it as a Buy it Now on e-bay for £39.99 and free postage, which seems a good deal to me.
I have ordered the 2016 Remastered Network Original blue-ray version because apparently the earlier Ultimate Restored version by Freemantle Media is badly cropped as it's targeted at widescreen TVs but cuts people's heads off in some of the interviews! So if you buy it, the Network version is the way to go.


message 4474: by Perato (new)

Perato | 231 comments Welcome to group Tim.

I'm watching the World at War right now(well I've been watching it on&off for few months now). Let's just say it's in progress. I've watched once before with less knowledge. Even if it's a bit old, it has a plenty of interesting video material AND a lot of interviews from people that were central characters or are famous today such as; Jimmy Doolittle, Koichi Kido, Albert Speer, Karl Donitz. Francis de Guingand, Adolf Galland, Vera Lynn, Kay Summersby, Louis Mountbatten, Brian Horrocks, Lawton Collins, Traudl Junge, Primo Levi, Curtis LeMay and others.

Ps. Let's go Bolts.


message 4475: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Perato wrote: "Welcome to group Tim.

I'm watching the World at War right now(well I've been watching it on&off for few months now). Let's just say it's in progress. I've watched once before with less knowledge. ..."


When I was in college and took a class on World War II, part of each class session was a viewing of one of the episodes from World at War. I have never watched all of it, but I do have it on DVD.

On a related note, anyone else have The Unknown War on DVD?


message 4476: by Arthur (new)

Arthur (warrior1775) | 11 comments is that the Burt Lancaster narrated one? I think its available for free on Tubi tv.


message 4477: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Arthur wrote: "is that the Burt Lancaster narrated one? I think its available for free on Tubi tv."

Yes, narrated by Burt Lancaster. I bought the set several years ago--it's pretty good, although fairly loaded with propaganda images.


message 4478: by Arthur (new)

Arthur (warrior1775) | 11 comments Marc wrote: "Arthur wrote: "is that the Burt Lancaster narrated one? I think its available for free on Tubi tv."

Yes, narrated by Burt Lancaster. I bought the set several years ago--it's pretty good, although ..."


Agreed. If I recall correctly it went to far as to hold the Nazis responsible for the Katyn murders, long after the rest of the world essentially agreed that the Soviets were responsible. So there is some serious propoganda in an otherwise entertaining, and long series, of a documentary.


message 4479: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments I've been a little hit or miss in the group lately, but I want to wish all the new comers a very warm welcome. We are for the most part a very friendly group. Please enjoy your time here


message 4480: by JD (new)

JD Mosteau | 1 comments Hi, I am John, a travel writer who specializes in the battlefields of Europe. I'm always looking for interesting books about WW2 and look forward to learning from the group.


message 4481: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4785 comments JD wrote: "Hi, I am John, a travel writer who specializes in the battlefields of Europe. I'm always looking for interesting books about WW2 and look forward to learning from the group."

Welcome, John.


message 4482: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi John and a warm welcome to the group.


message 4483: by Gary (new)

Gary (folionut) | 213 comments JD wrote: "Hi, I am John, a travel writer who specializes in the battlefields of Europe. I'm always looking for interesting books about WW2 and look forward to learning from the group."

Welcome, John.


message 4484: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2114 comments Welcome to the group John.


message 4485: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Welcome aboard, John. We can definitely recommend plenty of "interesting" books about World War II!!


message 4486: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Welcome John (JD)

While wandering through the threads, there should be something to catch your eye

Enjoy


message 4487: by Tim (new)

Tim | 12 comments Welcome John...


message 4488: by Tim (last edited Mar 12, 2021 02:59AM) (new)

Tim | 12 comments Perato wrote: "Welcome to group Tim.

I'm watching the World at War right now(well I've been watching it on&off for few months now). Let's just say it's in progress. I've watched once before with less knowledge. ..."


That’s an apt description Perato. World at War is old and will lack what today’s extensive worldwide comms/database access can informationally provide to a modern documentary. But World At War’s age allowing for interviews with the, long since passed, major players of WW2 is utterly priceless. It makes it IMHO the gold standard of documentaries.


message 4489: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Very good point there Tim in regards to "World at War".


message 4490: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments JD wrote: "Hi, I am John, a travel writer who specializes in the battlefields of Europe. I'm always looking for interesting books about WW2 and look forward to learning from the group."

Welcome to the group John, battlefield travel writing is a great way to bring the past to life. Many here have done or want to do battlefield tours. We have an author's page if you want to post any references to your published works.


message 4491: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Thanks for mentioning the author's page Mike. If your interested John you can post details of your books in this thread:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 4492: by Darin (new)

Darin Pepple | 6 comments Hey - nice to meet everyone! I'm also new to this group. I'm Darin Pepple, an Army veteran, historian, and author. I'm originally from Lancaster, PA and now live outside DC in Falls Church VA. I just published an Iraq War novel called "Dodgebomb: Outside the Wire in the Second Iraq War." I first became interested in WW2 as a kid paging through my Dad's American Heritage Picture History of WW2 and I majored in Military History in college doing my thesis on Operation Sealion. The last WW2 book I finished was Stephen Ambrose's Eisenhower vol1 relating to Ike's entire military career. I'm really looking forward to this group and its discussions. Thanks for having me. -Darin


message 4493: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Darin and welcome to the group, glad to have you join us.


message 4494: by Gary (new)

Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Darin wrote: "Hey - nice to meet everyone! I'm also new to this group. I'm Darin Pepple, an Army veteran, historian, and author. I'm originally from Lancaster, PA and now live outside DC in Falls Church VA. I ju..."

Hi Darin. Welcome to the group. You're gonna love it but it will get expensive if you buy all the books we recommend, lol.


message 4495: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Welcome aboard, Darin.


message 4496: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Welcome Darin, great to have you join us.


message 4497: by Darin (new)

Darin Pepple | 6 comments Aussie Rick, Gary, Marc, Mike - thanks for having me!


message 4498: by Liam (new)

Liam (dimestoreliam) | 498 comments Yes, welcome to the group, Darin! I'll second Gary's comment above about expense, but I suspect that after majoring in military history you are no doubt already just as hopelessly addicted to books as the rest of us... 'Operation Sealion' must have made a fascinating thesis topic; I've often wondered what might have happened if the Wehrmacht had possessed officers of the calibre of the late Colonel Victor J. Croizat to plan & lead that operation. Of course, conditions were obviously somewhat different in the South Pacific than in Northern Europe, but I would imagine that amphibious warfare is amphibious warfare to a large extent.


message 4499: by Dale (new)

Dale Medley I have been instructed to say 'Hi' to everyone.

Hi.

Funny thing with me and WW2 books. I spend all day translating Russian-language books on it. When I'm done, I have no brain cells remaining to read more on the topic. Which is not to say I'm not interested


message 4500: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Welcome to the group, Dale. Hopefully we can recommend something you might find interesting!


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