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Fixing Star Trek: Seven Deadly Sins
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You did this the wrong way. Next time, fix the incorrect editions instead of making new ones. The ones you deemed "incorrect" were the ones that had ISBNs. I had to go in and edit the original ones containing ISBNs to reflect the correct information from Simon & Schuster's site and deleted your new ones.
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As the user is not a librarian, that is not an option.
Ah, then next time ask here and one of the librarians can do it for you. =)
I did out the correct ISBN numbers in the description as that's the best I can do.Why doesn't the eBook listing show it to be the ePub version or all the authors? Only the paperback (trade paperback) has the authors. Also, the publisher should read Gallery Books a division of Simon and Shuster. But if you want it shortened, then it would be Gallery Books.
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Authors are specific to each edition.
And we've already had the conversation about ebook formats.
Oh.. one other thing... The publishing date is now wrong. It's March 16, 2010, not December 01. And it was never published in 2009.The one with the library binding is botched and should be deleted.
Ralph wrote: "You did this the wrong way. Next time, fix the incorrect editions instead of making new ones. The ones you deemed "incorrect" were the ones that had ISBNs. I had to go in and edit the original ones..."Make me a librarian and I'll sort it all out myself.
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Corrected.
JSWolf wrote: "The one with the library binding is botched and should be deleted."
We do not delete books with valid ISBNs.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...Still has the publisher wrong.
Simon & Schuster Adult Publishing Group <-- wrong
Should be...
Gallery Books a division of Simon and Shuster <--- correct
The correct way is how it is listed in the book.
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rivka wrote: "JSWolf wrote: "It's March 16, 2010"Corrected.
JSWolf wrote: "The one with the library binding is botched and should be deleted."
We do not delete books with valid ISBNs."
That library binding entry came from Amazon and it's all wrong. Plus the book is not even yet available. Amazon does have quite a number of incorrect entries there and this is one of them. Have a look and you'll see it's a botch 100%.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1439...
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rivka wrote: "Then provide the correct information and we'll fix it."There is no correct information. That's why it should be deleted. That entry on Amazon is wrong. it should not exist.
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Do you allow for books to be added that are not yet available or are 100% incorrect?
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Absolutely. As for not 100%, we make them as correct as possible. You tell me it's not yet available, so I removed the specific month and day.
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Notice it has the SAME ISBN numbers as the trade paperback edition because there is NO library binding version. That's why the library binding listing is wrong and should be removed.
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rivka wrote: "That ISBN corresponds to the paperback. It is quite common for the different editions to have marked differences, so we don't wholesale copy information from one edition to another."And notice that entry I linked is found in some libraries. And since the ISBN for the one in the libraries is not the same as the incorrect library binding entry, that would lead one to say that the library binding entry came from a botched listing on Amazon or Worldcat. Worldcat and Amazon both have some incorrect entries for this book. Goodreads is harboring just one such incorrect entry and resfuses to delete it even though I've just proved that it really is incorrect.
Paw Prints did not do a version of Star Trek: Seven Deadly Sins for any library.
Also, the ebook listing does not have all the authors listed.
We do not delete books with valid ISBNs. And it can't have the same ISBN as another edition because the system would not allow the same ISBN to be put in twice. This library edition is a unique edition.
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Is that a request?
rivka wrote: "JSWolf wrote: "Also, the ebook listing does not have all the authors listed."Is that a request?"
Yes please. It is a request to add back in the authors for the eBook entry that I did put in correctly.
What happened to make these glitches when the entries I put up were combined? I made sure they had all the fields correct.
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Paw Prints did not do a version of Star Trek: Seven Deadly Sins for any library."
You have not proven anything of the sort. Amazon is frequently wrong; WorldCat is not often.
I am perfectly willing to accept that the ISBN in question corresponds to an edition not yet in print, and changed the record accordingly. But unless you are one of the authors, their agent, publisher, or another involved party, I'd be interested in knowing how you can definitely state that there not only is not yet such an edition, but there is not one forthcoming.
Oh, and "library edition" does not mean "owned by a library". It is a specific binding format.
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This is why if an edition is incorrect, it needs to be edited, rather than a replacement created. The only things that transfer are reviews and book descriptions. All other data must be re-enetered.
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rivka wrote: "Ok, added the authors to that edition."Thank you very much.
I've asked over at the TrekBBS forum about that library binding version. Some of the authors of that book do hang out there and may know since they did contribute to it. I am trying to get definitive proof about this entry.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I just noticed that the authors is not yet right for the Trade Paperback and the eBook. Some authors are missing. The list of authors is (in correct order)...Dayton Ward & Keven Dilmore
David A. McIntee
James Swallow
Keith R.A. DeCandido
Britta Dennison
Marc D. Giller
Greg Cox
That makes one editor and seven authors.
This is a request to please fix the paperback and the eBook entries. As long as we are (for now) stuck with the library binding entry, can that be fixed as well so it matches?
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Got it.
ARGH!Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore should be listed together and not separately. Can you please fix this for the paperback, the eBook, and the library binding?
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rivka wrote: "We do NOT list multiple authors in a single slot."Even though they co-authored one of the stories?
JSWolf wrote: "Even though they co-authored one of the stories?"Even though.
The GR author system is designed to have individuals as an author. Creating an author with two names will not link them up to other works by the individuals.
They are getting credit as an author for the book, any further details can be handled in the description text of the book.
What about fixing this entry that I keep asking to be fixed?http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63...
The editor is wrong, the title is wrong, there are no authors and there is no description.
Please fix this so it at least look correct.
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But it is the same book as the eBook and the Paperback. So it would have the same title, the same editor, the same authors, and the same description.
JSWolf, it looks like perhaps the publisher entered the data wrong at their end - the data in this entry is cascading from that through the web - WorldCat and Google Books are both showing exactly the same information GR has from Amazon. The LOC is showing nothing on this title at all.However, we generally wait to correct a book until we have valid information to replace it with. In this case, the editor Marco Palmieri is currently an editor of other Star Trek series collections, so it is jumping the gun to just replace him.
The publisher may use that ISBN for a book of another title currently being worked on by that editor.
Or, we may find that it is an edition of 7 Sins, however, the best we can do right now is as rivka said, monitor it for updates.
Marco Palmieri did not work on Seven Deadly Sins as he was terminated sometime in December 2009. Margret Clark was the publisher after him and now she's been terminated (not sure when). So I know 100% that Macro as editor is incorrect.
That may very well have been the case, however you seem to have missed the relevant parts of my post. To repeat myself:
"JSWolf, it looks like perhaps the publisher entered the data wrong at their end - the data in this entry is cascading from that through the web - WorldCat and Google Books are both showing exactly the same information GR has from Amazon. The LOC is showing nothing on this title at all.
However, we generally wait to correct a book until we have valid information to replace it with...
The publisher may use that ISBN for a book of another title currently being worked on ... however, the best we can do right now is as rivka said, monitor it for updates."
Since you have connections to the publisher, you may want to bring this to their attention, so that they can fix the ISBN listing at it's source.
Actually, I don't have connections to the publisher. And the only thing I can do is bring this to the attention of some of the authors and see what happens.
Can you combine http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/79... & http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/79... since they are now the correct entries?
Also http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/... & http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61... & http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63... are botched entries and the ones I made will replace those.
So if you remove all the botched entries and combine the ones I made, then this book will be fixed for now.