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message 1: by Jaimee (new)

Jaimee Fernandez is it really for a person to kill anyone in just writing in a book??
aren't you wondering with the story of death note??
it's just that i'm too curious about it...


Katheryn I wanted to like it, I really did. But I prefer stories with character development and this just had none. All flash and no substance, unfortunately.


message 3: by Ali (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ali I'm a bit sad that you think there's no substance to this story. As is natural for this medium, there are filler and corny scenes, but the story is nearly always moving forward, and there is a lot that is going on -- usually a few layers at a time.
There is character development here, it's just not orderly and spelled out. While most of the characters don't actually change from start to finish (no reason that they really should), the main character changes very visibly and dramatically. Rather than the baby steps along the way of getting there (which can be very interesting but is simply not the way this series plays out,) the story focuses more on reactions and results of its characters; clearly shows where an individual comes from and what they become as a result of their circumstances and choices.


Brittney. Break my heart why dont ya well i luved it it was awsome


message 5: by Nada (new)

Nada I think this manga is trying to show just how powerful words can be. The Death Note has the power to kill people with just their name. Also the Death
Note clearly changes its users. Then when you look at the Shiginami, they give humans their death notes just to have some fun. But the humans see the death note as powerful and even fear it. This may be representing people's views on writing/ what writing can amount to. Words can be used for entertainment, but other times words can be powerful and persuasive or represent ideas that no one would dare speak aloud.

I hope I'm not analyzing Death Note too much...


Valerie Nada wrote: "I think this manga is trying to show just how powerful words can be. The Death Note has the power to kill people with just their name. Also the Death
Note clearly changes its users. Then when you..."


Eh, you are. Wonderful manga, I love the drawing style, the author and the artist are very talented. To the people who thought there was no characterization... have you met L? I thought the characters were brilliant and original.

But no. The story was written as entertainment, there's nothing to deep there, at least on purpose. Ohba said he wrote it with no deep ideas behind it, but I think they're there. What's right and wrong? What would you do with this kind of power? Should we use the death penalty? It's also about human habit, and how we return to them, always. That idea shows up in the very end....


Valerie Anyway...

"Death Note is about coming to your own conclusions."
-Tsugumi Ohba


message 8: by Chris (new) - added it

Chris Bowen -Tsugumi Ohba is the best book writer ever!


Valerie Chris wrote: "-Tsugumi Ohba is the best book writer ever!"

I wouldn't say 'book writer', but he's definately one of the best manga writers out there. :3 I want to see him write a novel one day, though.


Alledria The idea of the power of words/names underlying the entire series makes a lot of sense to me, even if it is one which comes up fairly often. Knowing the true name of a person can give you great power over them and such.


message 11: by Angie (last edited Oct 06, 2011 09:26AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Angie The only message the mangakas wanted to transmit was that everybody will die.

The rest is based on our own personal conclusions.


message 12: by Chris (new) - added it

Chris Bowen death note is really a sad book at the end of the last book he die.


Nba Fan 2000 hehe thnxx for the spoiler but tht's not tru.

SPOILER:

L dies in volume 8 of the Death Note series.

lolzz i'm actually DevilRebel62 on Goodreads, i'm on my bro's account... lmaooz


message 14: by Tome (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tome Trinket Death Note started out as one of the most brilliant stories I've ever read, in manga or books. But it kind of flopped in the middle. Might be because I love L too much.

It was very interesting to follow Light's transformation from this righteous young man (though a bit self-righteous maybe) into a god-wannabe. It's at the same time impressive and sad, ironic and quite realistic. Power corrupts even the smartest minds.

While I didn't quite like the last few volumes of the series, I liked the ending. I mean Light, he did it. He became god.

As to the "message" of the series, does there always have to be one? I don't buy the power of words thing, or death penalty things. I think it's just a simple (well, not "simple") story of human nature and a fascinating battle of great minds.


message 15: by Chris (new) - added it

Chris Bowen death note is a really and serous problem in this book!


Enrique Death Note is a great series to me. It shows a lot of heavy themes that we really think about. You're ideas and thoughts are challenged with everything black & white and you deciding what's right & wrong.


message 17: by Angie (last edited Dec 06, 2011 09:49AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Angie Emily wrote: "Death Note started out as one of the most brilliant stories I've ever read, in manga or books. But it kind of flopped in the middle. Might be because I love L too much.

It was very interesting to..."


Many people (even it can be noticed in the anime) agree on how the plot between L's death and the final denoument became dull. During that period, the research had to "start from scratch again" and there was the introduction of the new challengers (who, according to some people, were "copies" of the original). But let's admit it, has there been another way in order to get to the main denoument?

I also loved L, even I can understand why Light became more loathed after L's death. Even the mangakas told once that they liked him (one of their most favourite human character).

But Ohba didn't let interfere neither his own personal feelings nor the fans' because he would have risked the whole plot and a great ending. If he had left L win, then the plot wouldn't have had the same intensity and realism it had in the end, it would have been an obvious cliché where "good defeats evil once more".

There are movie "adaptations" of the manga where L wins, but I don't recommend them.

I can agree that it's been interesting see the transformation of Light (you can see the change in his eyes and in his way to solve problems). I can also agree with how power can corrupt a person, like you wrote is part of human nature as well as wanting to show that one is always right.

And about the message, there is no one. The writer only wanted to tell that everybody dies.


Steph I loved the art work and the story of the series (both manga and anime) ;)
I think Tsugumi Ōba and Takeshi Obata did a great job.


Juliam Askew i loved it because it shows how a person personal views of right and wrong can drastically change when there given power


Shannon i loved the whole series as a whole , i felt the drawings really tied together the whole plot.
thou i loved light / raito, i have to say that L was my favourite character overall :)


message 21: by Jhoy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jhoy I had seen and heard a lot of DeathNote, before I watched the manga, and I was stunned that L didn't live to the end. It's like a major thing in the whole story, and it seemed to be a sad point that a lot of people refused to talk/think about.

Around that time, I didn't like it that much either. By the time I really came back to my senses, it was like 4 or so epts until the end. Also, Light went from someone trying to do, something, to more or less ruling Japan. We/I was lost in more ways than one.

But I did like it, I just have to make myself believe that L is 'dead'. Until someone brought it up, I had forgotten about his passing. :(

I think Light was too smart at times. The planning he did when he was juggling the two notebooks with that odd girl. Sorry I don't remember her name. He married her right? I don't remembered what happened to her sorry to say.

Sorry, I went back and saw that we were suppose to just talk about the first book/manga. But since I'm not the first one to stray and I already wrote all this, I'm leaving it as.

But to focus this a bit more towards the first book I'll have to say that you can clearly see how he (Light) had all these good intentions, but the death god and all the other death gods knew that once they (humans) were given a chance to change things, they would not stay the same person.

Circumstances influence how someone would react to something. Change their circumstances and you change them on some level. Which is why they say "Absolute power, corrupts absolutely."


message 22: by Angie (last edited Jan 11, 2012 07:18AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Angie Jhoy wrote: "I had seen and heard a lot of DeathNote, before I watched the manga, and I was stunned that L didn't live to the end. It's like a major thing in the whole story, and it seemed to be a sad point tha..."

I agree with you about how power can corrupt someone even if he or she has had good intentions since the beginning.

Many people have commmented about how the second part of the plot (when L died and Near and Mello took his place) is dull. However, you need to read it so you won't be in blank with the denoument and its details as well as Light's personality development.

About Misa (Damn God, she has been very lucky despite not being so brillant and mature), she survived if you mean about the end of the manga, she was safe and sound with no memories about the Death Note.

What happened next, after the end of Death Note, is another story, giving a new meaning about how saving a human live is hopeless (remember how a shinigami can die, there is a logical reason about it)


message 23: by Jhoy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jhoy I figured that the girl, Misa, ended up 'clean' from everything. I just didn't remember how, but I had a feeling. Didn't her shinigami die for her or in her place or something?

Either way, lucky girl.

There was something after the end of DeathNote? What was that called?

As for Near and Mello, I know I need to read over that part of the story. I have all the volumes but 13 I think, and that just tells you stuff about the manga and it's story. The only thing I remember from when I looked through it for a min or so is that Misa's shinigami was a girl. I can very much be wrong, but that is one of the reasons I want to get it. :)


Sarouel Emily wrote: "Death Note started out as one of the most brilliant stories I've ever read, in manga or books. But it kind of flopped in the middle. Might be because I love L too much.

It was very interesting to..."

I agree with you, it kind of lost something when L died.. But i don't think the books makes people different, i think Light was always a controlling, condescending freak in the inside, the book gave him power..i see that specially when i look at the dialogue between Light and the Death Note Shinigami (i never remember is name), and a bit between the way Light and L interact..apparently L looks like the tormented soul, but if we look at the way he let himself die by Light's arms..he gave Light "godness" in a way..

i read it and watched the anime, and it was such a memorable bittersweet thing for me..makes me think that what you see isn't what you get..


Saying it's about the power of words..hmmm..i feel is a bit lazy because that is the easy way out..i feel is more about we humans has complex and given the power, we show our true selves (most of us, and maybe the ones that fight most with it, like Light)..putting in the relation between good and bad, that is brought up in the manga, we're mostly bad.

:)


message 25: by Angie (last edited Jan 12, 2012 02:02PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Angie Jhoy wrote: "I figured that the girl, Misa, ended up 'clean' from everything. I just didn't remember how, but I had a feeling. Didn't her shinigami die for her or in her place or something?

Either way, luck..."


What it was after the manga are supposings from the authors (apart from a short shot that shows that even if someone wants to continue with Death Note, it will not be either the same or better). Just in case you have the doubt, the girl you see in the last page of the manga is not Misa.

Rem, the female shinigami, told Misa that a shinigami dies if he or she falls in love with a human. This is a poetic way of saying that if a shinigami saves a human life, whose fate was to end, by killing another(s), the shinigami dies plus increasing the life spam of the one who was saved.

In the shinigami world, saving a human life is useless because sooner or later, humans die.


Steven I would LOVE to find a working Death Note... Anyone else? Or am I the only one...


message 27: by A.J. (last edited Jan 22, 2012 10:32AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

A.J. Martinez Death Note is about justice. Is it right to kill someone just because they have a criminal record. There is also character developement. in the begining Light is a boring all teenager who gets straight "A's" but then when he finds the death he finds meaning in his life and power. Towards the end you start to wonder if he is really killing people for good or is he just doing it because he feels powerful. Not only that but the mind games that he plays with L is outstanding and I dare say it has beaten any detective movie I have ever seen.

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message 28: by Cole (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cole T. Light is kind of sad near the middle but his insanity is oddly inspiring.


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