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message 1: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
Some questions to consider:

What went on that allowed Hitler to rise to power? Why were the Jews blamed in Germany? What were some of the contributions Germany made to future technology? What gave Germany its military power?

message 2: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
I skimmed through this book. I still need to read it after I finish a couple others. From what I have seen a very interesting read.

How Hitler Could Have Won World War II The Fatal Errors That Led to Nazi Defeat by Bevin Alexander Bevin Alexander

Description: Most of us rally around the glory of the Allies' victory over the Nazis in World War II. The story is often told of how the good fight was won by an astonishing array of manpower and stunning tactics. However, what is often overlooked is how the intersection between Adolf Hitler's influential personality and his military strategy was critical in causing Germany to lose the war.

With an acute eye for detail and his use of clear prose, acclaimed military historian Bevin Alexander goes beyond counterfactual "What if?" history and explores for the first time just how close the Allies were to losing the war. Using beautifully detailed, newly designed maps, How Hitler Could Have Won World War II exquisitely illustrates the important battles and how certain key movements and mistakes by Germany were crucial in determining the war's outcome. Alexander's harrowing study shows how only minor tactical changes in Hitler's military approach could have changed the world we live in today.

How Hitler Could Have Won World War II untangles some of the war's most confounding strategic questions, such as:
Why didn't the Nazis concentrate their enormous military power on the only three beaches upon which the Allies could launch their attack into Europe?
Why did the terrifying German panzers, on the brink of driving the British army into the sea in May 1940, halt their advance and allow the British to regroup and evacuate at Dunkirk?
With the chance to cut off the Soviet lifeline of oil, and therefore any hope of Allied victory from the east, why did Hitler insist on dividing and weakening his army, which ultimately led to the horrible battle ofStalingrad?

Ultimately, Alexander probes deeply into the crucial intersection between Hitler's psyche and military strategy and how his paranoia fatally overwhelmed his acute political shrewdness to answer the most terrifying question: Just how close were the Nazis to victory?

Why did Hitler insist on terror bombing London in the late summer of 1940, when the German air force was on the verge of destroying all of the RAF sector stations, England's last defense?

With the opportunity to drive the British out of Egypt and the Suez Canal and occupy all of the Middle East, therefore opening a Nazi door to the vast oil resources of the region, why did Hitler fail to move in just a few panzer divisions to handle such an easy but crucial maneuver?

On the verge of a last monumental effort and concentration of German power to seize Moscow and end Stalin's grip over the Eastern front, why did the Nazis divert their strength to bring about the far less important surrender of Kiev, thereby destroying any chance of ever conquering the Soviets?

message 3: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
Another interesting book that caught my attention.

The Coming of the Third Reich by Richard J. Evans Richard J. Evans

In 1900, Germany was one of modernity's great success stories: The most progressive and dynamic nation in Europe, it was the only country whose rapid economic growth and innovation rivaled that of the United States. Its political culture was far less authoritarian than Russia's and less anti-Semitic than France's. Representative institutions thrived, and competing political parties and elections were a central part of life. How, then, could it be that in little more than a generation this stable modern country would fall into the hands of Adolf Hitler and the violent, racist, extremist political movement he led, a movement that would lead Germany and then all of Europe into utter moral, physical, and cultural ruin?
There is no story in twentieth-century history more important to understand, and Richard Evans has written the definitive account for our time. A masterful synthesis of a vast body of scholarly work integrated with important new research and interpretations, Evans's history restores drama and contingency to the rise to power of Hitler and the Nazis, even as he shows how ready Germany was by the early 1930s for such a takeover to occur. Its citizens were angry and embittered by military defeat and economic ruin, and its young democracy undermined by a civil service, an army, and a law enforcement system deeply alienated from the new order. The electorate was beset by growing extremism and panic about communism; and the small but successful Jewish community was subject to wide-spread suspicion and resentment. In the end, though nothing about what happened was preordained, Germany proved to be fertile ground for Nazism's ideology of hatred.

message 4: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
I will defidently add this book to my to-read list. The orgin of World War II began with this individual.

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler Adolf Hitler

The angry ranting of an obscure, small-party politician, the first volume of Mein Kampf was virtually ignored when it was originally published in 1925. Likewise the second volume, which appeared in 1926. The book details Hitler's childhood, the "betrayal" of Germany in World War I, the desire for revenge against France, the need for lebensraum for the German people, and the means by which the National Socialist party can gain power. It also includes Hitler's racist agenda and his glorification of the "Aryan" race. The few outside the Nazi party who read it dismissed it as nonsense, not believing that anyone could--or would--carry out its radical, terrorist programs. As Hitler and the Nazis gained power, first party members and then the general public were pressured to buy the book. By the time Hitler became chancellor of the Third Reich in 1933, the book stood atop the German bestseller lists. Had the book been taken seriously when it was first published, perhaps the 20th century would have been very different.
Beyond the anger, hatred, bigotry, and self-aggrandizing, Mein Kampf is saddled with tortured prose, meandering narrative, and tangled metaphors (one person was described as "a thorn in the eyes of venal officials"). That said, it is an incredibly important book. It is foolish to think that the Holocaust could not happen again, especially if World War II and its horrors are forgotten. As an Amazon.com reader has pointed out, "If you want to learn about why the Holocaust happened, you can't avoid reading the words of the man who was most responsible for it happening." Mein Kampf, therefore, must be read as a reminder that evil can all too easily grow. --Sunny Delaney

message 5: by Paul (last edited Mar 30, 2010 06:29AM) (new)

Paul Pellicci Hey Martin long time no speak.
I will check out the three books on Amazon and see if I want to invest in them.

My first mother in law was a German child living in Germany during the war, Irmgard was a wonderful person. Her father died in a work accident during the war and her mother took all of her younger children on a flight running away from the German authorities who wanted to put the kids in youth camps. Tney went from one villiage to another hiding the fact that she was a widow with many children.

message 6: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
Thanks Paul. I was meaning to ask you what your job was in the Army. I chose combat engineer. I remember reading about youth camps I believe there were some in Austria. Thats great history it is wonderful when you get to hear it first hand instead of reading it through a book.

message 7: by Paul (new)

Paul Pellicci I was in the Signal Corps. I was trained to be a Telephone Equipment repairman. MOS 32H. I was held back for a week in school and went to Germany instead of Viet Nam. I was supposed to be an ecryption telephone but that job was taken while I was en route so I went to a headquarters to work. That was awsome.

Why aren't you trying to go to West Point? With your interest it would seem a sinch. When I was in I was asked if I wanted to go but I was too old. Call your Congressman..just a suggestion.

message 8: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
Thanks Paul. I was originally trying to go to West Point but My grades aren't as strong as they could be and my physical fitness level could use some improvement. I am thinking about doing online college while I am in, then try to get into Officer Canidate School.

message 9: by Míceál, Assistant Moderator - World War II History (new)

Míceál  Ó Gealbháin (miceal) | 35 comments Mod
For an insider's view of the Third Reich have a look at Inside The Third Reich by Albert Speer. Speer was Hitler's architect and later Minister Of Armaments. He spent 20 years in Spandau Prison for war crimes. Also of interest is Spandau: The Secret Diaries also by Speer.

message 10: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
Thank you for sharing that with us Dr. Michael. Did he design most of Hitler's Bunkers?

message 11: by Míceál, Assistant Moderator - World War II History (new)

Míceál  Ó Gealbháin (miceal) | 35 comments Mod
Designed the Stadium at Nuremberg, The Reichstag most of the buildings in Berli thetrain station and the bunkers. And was responsible for the Cathedral Of Ice at the Nuremberg Rallies. And also designed the 100 foot wingspan Eagle with Swastika over the Zepplin airfield.

message 12: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
Thats alot of designs. That is some very interesting work.

message 13: by Danoota (new)

Danoota | 1 comments I read Speers a long time ago. It was a very good insiders book, but also from someone on the fringes of denial. William Shirers "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" though not scholarly, is a very readable introduction.

message 14: by Míceál, Assistant Moderator - World War II History (new)

Míceál  Ó Gealbháin (miceal) | 35 comments Mod
Remember, Speer was the only one to plead guilty at the Nuremberg Trials although he said he knew nothing of the camps. BUT we must remember he was also Minister of Armament and had to wonder where all those slave laborers who worked in his factories were coming from. Have a look at Gitta Sereny's book Albert Speer And His Battle With The Truth.

message 15: by Paul (new)

Paul Pellicci During my time in Germany, I traveled to Burchasgarden to see Eagle's Nest. It was a real tough climb so me and my pals took the bus. It was a real steep ride and I am afraid of heights, but, when I got to the top I found a restaurant selling sausages and beer. Bread was extra.

My question is this. Why, being out in the open, the Allies didn't take it out? I have seen newsreels and it looks the same.

message 16: by Martin Lamb, Head Moderator (last edited Apr 07, 2010 05:34AM) (new)

Martin Lamb | 212 comments Mod
From what I read right now on wikipedia. Hitler rarely visited the Eagle's Nest and was usually there no more than 30 minutes. He met dignitaries there but that was mostly it. It probably was not a significant target because it held no strategic value beside aggravating Hitler.

Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlstei...

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