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I hate every morning when I read the paper and I do NOT find a story saying Hillary has thrown in the towel

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message 1: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (randymandy) Whatever. Hillary rules.


message 2: by Schmitty (new)

Schmitty (tastygreenjelly) I agree, Hillary is a lying, scheming, slimy old hag and she should give it up. Oh yeah and if u r a woman and u want to vote for a woman, vote for Obama or Mccain they r just as feminine.


message 3: by Schmitty (new)

Schmitty (tastygreenjelly) Ali:your very welcome, 'kiddo', thanks for your deep thoughts on egg mcmuffins


message 4: by Schmitty (new)

Schmitty (tastygreenjelly) Oh and Ali is your life really so unfufilling that u have to argue politics with a twelve year old? And if u really live in Canada how does any of this concern u? And y do liberals always have to revert to name calling? it's so pathetic.


message 5: by 123 (new)

123 123 Hillary is awesome.But she should give up.


message 6: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Hillary could have been awesome. But she had advisors telling her to attack, attack, attack. What do the uninformed masses hate about Hillary? She's a bitch, isn't she? But what do you mean? I dunno, I just hear she's a bitch. And then she runs this all-bitch, all the time campaign. I was all ready to love her, and she came out prickly as a porcupine with hate for the fellow democrat.

As of today, Obama took the lead in superdelegates too. Hill, you're done for. Had you played your cards right, you'd be in line for veep, but you didn't. You played mean, and your people told you to play mean. Fire 'em all and do it right next time, okay?


message 7: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill I frikkin' love this! I drink your milkshake....I drink it up!! God how many ways can i split this? LOL. How 'bout this...what if 'bama was white? What if Hildy was male? How would you vote then? Thass right....what do the candidates actually bring to the table in terms of past accomplishments and specifics for the future? ....discuss.


message 8: by Lisa (new)

Lisa If Obama was white and Hillary was male, I'd still probably be voting for Obama because Hill's run such an awful campaign. It's been all over the map strategically, highly negative, not particularly successful, and it's alienated even her friends. I don't want her running the country until she's better at running a campaign.

I actually think Hill's got better ideas, but the way her campaign's gone, I just don't think she'd be any good at making them a reality. And unlike Bill, who could make any bad idea sound good, Hill's been making all her great ideas sound bad. Bill shut down the government for three weeks and looked like a cowboy hero for doing it. Hill could probably have everything running smoothly and still leave office with a legacy akin to Carter's.

And if Obama and Hillary still polled the same, as an all-white-man primary, I'd be voting for the one who has the best chance against the republican in the fall, which is Obama. I feel like we've got an embarrassment of riches, two bright, capable candidates. But Obama just has this thing going, where he couldn't piss anyone off if he tried.

The thing is, Hill gets bashed for being too politician-y, but her real weakness seems to be that she isn't that great at politics, which is pretty much the art of convincing people you're on their side.


message 9: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Lisa...your assessment of Hillary is dead on...you get the sniper's medal of valor for that. However... you really think Obama hasn't pissed anyone off? Think again.


message 10: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Oh, I'm talking big-picture poll numbers (I was, it should be obvious, engaging in some hyperbole to say that Obama couldn't piss anyone off if he tried). I'm sure it's changed some in the last six to eight weeks, but the last poll numbers I saw (simple "how do you feel about this candidate"-type question) had Obama and Clinton fairly equal for "highly positive" rankings. But the "highly negative" ratings for Obama were miniscule (single digits?) whereas Clinton's were nearly as high as her positive rankings. I'm a pragmatist. Given that I like them both purely based on ideas, I'll back the one that's got better numbers, even aside from the campaign stuff that's also swayed my opinion.


message 11: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Yep... no doubt, Hillary has the market on negatives, and she certainly hasn't helped herself. Thanks for your input. Frankly, I have a helluva time tryin' to figure out how peoples are making their mind up on this one. It's a tough call.


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

I can see how people are making their minds up about which candidate to choose. You either vote for someone with experience and Washington insider know-how (Hillary Clinton) or a relatively new face in the grand scheme of things who brings a fresh perspective (Barack Obama). Take all the negatives each side have slung against one another, and you can see it from this angle.

I look at this nomination process as the way we voted for a President in 1992. George HW Bush was the experienced politician, a Washington insider that knew how the system worked. Bill Clinton was the upstart with a vision for change. The people decided, and they wanted change, not the status quo.

Funny how the Clintons went from the propagators of change to the status quo.


message 13: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Gus, that is a big ol' #10 can of IRONY right there.


message 14: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) :::psst:::: Not Bill is cranky.... he hasn't had his vittles...


message 15: by [deleted user] (new)

Is it really irony, or simply how things work in Washington. I can see it 15 years from now, when Obama becomes a complete political asshole, like the Bushes and the Clintons. It's bound to happen, I'm afraid.


message 16: by Carlie (new)

Carlie My husband wants to vote for mccain just to prove that his 1 vote means nothing.
I think anyone who goes into politics has some kinda secondary agenda. So I care for neither bill2 nor bamamama, but I'd b interested 2 find out what bama's secondary is.


message 17: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill That's right Char....hell at this point I'd even go for that ghetto Whiskas crap.




message 18: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) Ghetto Whiskas... comes with free crack pipe.


message 19: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Where do I sing up? One question: who's crack?


message 20: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill sing up?


message 21: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) your mom's crack.

:::hands him a magnifying glass::::


message 22: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill Hey...who needs a magnifying glass for that? LOL....OMG...one day after Mother's Day. I'M GOING TO KITTY HELL!!!!!


message 23: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) LMAO!!!!!!! Oh man... that was choice.


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