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[Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother]

I didn't see any really new books. Most seems several years old.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

I noticed that, too, Pamela.

[UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish, Naughty Co-Mod]

Nine Rules to Break When Romancing a Rake was the newest that I recognized.

[Ipshita]

I agree.A Week to Be Wicked was the latest published novel of the list that I recognised.

[Abigail]

Very interesting! I love the Bridgerton books, and I'm ashamed to say I've never read Loretta Chase. LOVE Outlander, too. And my favorite Rachel Gibson was up there as well.

[Ipshita]

I haven't read Outlander since I read from some reviews that there is physical abuse in the story. But I really like the Bridgerton books too.

[Melissa]

I like the Bridgerton & Outlander series quite a bit.

Was really happy to see Morning Gloryup there, I love this book and have read it many times. Its such a sweet romance book.

[Barbara]

Hi - new member! Enjoyed AAR's list, but was a tad disappointed that they seemed to stick to the big names. Granted they're big authors for a reason, but... I don't know, something seemed missing. Was really happy to see The Rake (which is my all time favorite) on the list. I was disappointed Kristan Higgins didn't make the list.

[Sunny☼]

Most were Regency, one Paranormal and one steampunk. I would like to see a more balanced list of the many fantastic sub genres in romance.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Sunny☼ wrote: "Most were Regency, one Paranormal and one steampunk. I would like to see a more balanced list of the many fantastic sub genres in romance."

Still... not as bad as the GRs Awards for Romance! LOL!

[Barbara]

Not a fan of that GR's list at all - too many NA books for my taste. I prefer a lighter, fluffier read or a good historical. Not a paranormal fan myself - although I can't fault JR Ward's inclusion on any list.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Yes, too many NA books... definitely!

[Melissa]

Whats an NA book?

[Barbara]

New Adult = although I'm still not sure what that' supposed to mean.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

It is directed at college age women, with a little more sex than YA. (Of course, YA is getting more and more!)

But, Good Gravy Beans, it was ALL NA, except for Ward's one book. A little off balance there, me thinks.

[Abigail]

According to what I've heard - the heroine must be college-aged. According it my editor, the angstier, the better.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Well, it is the new, hot category... but, still. I find it hard to believe it is being read by the majority of Romance readers.

[Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother]

I must be a minority ☺

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Ditto.

[Melissa]

Its new to me so I must not be reading it.

[Barbara]

Count me in with the minority - although my publisher made the comment that it's exploding and the young demographic is the demo to go after. As a woman of a certain age, I keep waiting for my demographic to be the one businesses want to target. :-)

[Rachel Annie]

I'm not a fan either, if it's sounding like NA based on the synopsis, it's a definite "Do not want".

@Lisa Kay, "Good gravy beans", I love that!

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Rachel ~ SnapDragoness wrote: "@Lisa Kay, "Good gravy beans", I love that!"

I stole it from Charlie Brown.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

I do surveys for Tell Harlequin, and they recently asked me if I knew about their NA line. My answer: "Nope."

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

I have been tempted to read that book , though.

[Lisa - (Aussie Girl)]

Lisa Kay wrote: "Sunny☼ wrote: "Most were Regency, one Paranormal and one steampunk. I would like to see a more balanced list of the many fantastic sub genres in romance."

Still... not as bad as the GRs Awards fo..."

Hear, hear Lisa Kay! My thoughts exactly, I though I was just being a cranky old woman, LOL. Time will tell if this subgenre will just be a fad.

[Kit★]

Well, count me as one of the minority too. Sure, I read some YA every now and then, but not romance, mostly fantasy or historical YA stories.
The whole NA thing seems dumb to me, and absolutely zero of the books on the poll thingy sounded even remotely interesting to me. I'm 28, so not too far from that target age, but it has no appeal to me. I'll stick with my HRs thanks. There's enough teenage angst everywhere already, I'm not gonna go look for a book full of it. :)

[Ipshita]

Lisa Kay wrote: "I have been tempted to read that book , though."

I read that book,it was good but not as amazing as the reviews in GR claim it to be. I have always noticed that many readers rate books of the YA and NA genre quite benignly.
Some of the NA that I read were quite stupid,humorous but stupid.

[Abigail]

I didn't know HQ had an NA line! Ha!

[Barbara]

Same here Abigail - but I confess to sticking in their category world more than their ST stuff (minus exceptions of course)

I have been tempted to read Easy too - heard good things.

I am so behind on my reading list - it's growing faster than I can keep up.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Kit★, I have started reading YA since joining GRs. But, I must confess that I'm quite choosy about it. I usually read on the recommendation of someone I know - who knows my taste, too I've read some excellent ones, if not many in number. I'm not into the triangle theme that is common in a lot of YA romances. So, like you, I go for the Fantasy or Supernatural/Paranormal ones.

I'm not into the angsty stuff, either... well, occasionally... but then I'll pick up a Harlequin Presents and, therefore, the hero will be a billionaire. LOL!

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Abigail wrote: "I didn't know HQ had an NA line! Ha!"

Who knew! LOL!

[Ipshita]

Is it just me or has the bookos.org website been deleted?

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Not familiar with the site, Ipshita.

[Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother]

not familiar with it either :(

[Ipshita]

It was a really good site to download all types of books.

[Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother]

thanks, I'll check it out sometime.

[Ipshita]

I found a similar site http://en.bookfi.org/

[Abigail]

Are you sure these aren't piracy sites?

[Alisinny]

Are you sure it wasn't "bookoo" in the site address? I haven't personally downloaded from it but I seem to remember having it on my list of sites that I've briefly looked at.
I don't think it's a piracy site. I hope not anyway. It was included in a list with project Guttenberg which I had been given for items I could download via my public library.
I got fed up with THAT though fairly quickly! Imagine that the most commonly purchased ereader at the time in this country was Kindle and the library decided specifically NOT to offer loans via Kindle.
Hmm...is there a resistance to eloans perhaps? I don't know but I wasn't happy.
I'm not entirely sure of the origin of the list I'm speaking of either.
Hope it helps you Ipshita.

[Ipshita]

Abigail wrote: "Are you sure these aren't piracy sites?"

I have no idea if they are piracy sites. :(

[Ipshita]

Alisinny wrote: "Are you sure it wasn't "bookoo" in the site address? I haven't personally downloaded from it but I seem to remember having it on my list of sites that I've briefly looked at.
I don't think it's a ..."

I am sure it was 'bookos'. I think they have probably relocated their site somewhere else.

[Sonya]

Lisa Kay wrote: "I have been tempted to read that book , though."

Read that one. If there's one good NA book in the world, it's that one!
NA has so much misogyny and 'slut shaming', and Easy is the complete opposite.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

LOL! Alright, Sonya. BTW, what does 'slut shaming' mean?

[Sonya]

Basically, it is the whole culture of saying men are fine for having sex, but women are 'sluts' if they behave the same way. I went to Wikipedia for an answer!

"Some examples of behaviours over which women are said to be "slut-shamed" include: violating accepted dress codes by dressing in sexually provocative ways, requesting access to birth control, having premarital or casual sex, or being raped or sexually assaulted."

New Adult books tend to have a 'perfect, virginal' heroine, and any female character who dares to be sexually active (usually with the hero, who is always very sexually experienced - nice and hypocritical!) is called a 'whore' and a 'porn star' and many other things.

There's so much sexism in NA, which is why I'm no big fan of the genre.

However, in Easy, there's not that double-standard, and when the heroine is assaulted (not a spoiler, as it happens in the first chapter) the hero sticks up for her and tells her it isn't her fault it happened.

[Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell]

Ah! Thanks for educating me on pop lingo, Sonya.

[Alisinny]

hi everyone. I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question (again) but what exactly is steampunk? I've come across the term a few times and I just can't seem to get a good idea of what it means.

I also found the YA/NA thing confusing. It's gotten to the point where I was starting to skip over ANYTHING that came up with this label. Now, from a publisher and author viewpoint I'd think that was pretty damaging. I just got so TIRED of feeling like 'meh, same old, same old." A bit like "if you liked fifty shades...", totally puts me off.

Thank heavens I found all you folks, to help me out!

It's been very helpful btw!

[Sonya]

I have such a hard time defining steampunk, mostly because a lot of what is marketed as steampunk actually doesn't fit the 'rules' of the genre!

I took this definition from this article:

Steampunk, a subgenre of both science fiction and fantasy, involves stories that take place in a setting whose technology is steam-driven. Most tales occur in Victorian-era England. The stories feature lots of gadgets and devices and frequently put them to use in order to explore various themes.

After reading Easy, I was excited about the NA genre, but so far most of what I've read is painfully misogynistic, and all using Exactly The Same plot devices.

I'm also not that excited about steampunk, despite being a fan of all things Victorian...

[Alisinny]

Sonya, you are now officially my guru!

I read something only today that described "steampunk" as a genre with "robots". So, I'm happy to have your clarification and you will understand my confusion when I tell you that this colourful description of the genre was provided by THE AUTHOR of a novel seeking reviews!

haha! Oh dear, I don't feel quite so bad now. Glad I didn't take up the thread though.

"Easy" was a good read, and I agree with your comments. I like "Exactly The Same Plot Device." I could probably add "Exactly the Same Man-Slut Hero and Virginal Heroine" to the descriptor. You'll notice I've decided it's more appropriate to slut-shame the hero and I'm going to continue in this vein.

[Sonya]

But don't you know, it's SO sexy when the hero has slept with every girl on campus!
I just don't buy the happy endings in most NA books.

Alisinny wrote: "I read something only today that described "steampunk" as a genre with "robots". So, I'm happy to have your clarification and you will understand my confusion when I tell you that this colourful description of the genre was provided by THE AUTHOR of a novel seeking reviews!"

A bit like those authors who say they write 'Regency' romances and go on to say their books take place in the 1890s! I'd say you should probably know your book's genre before you try to market it...